Ty 133 pages.
And then you
have the other three dissents,
which I'm trying to work my way
through here.
From what you've seen,
what do you take away?
Right.
So I the way I see this is
is that
the Supreme Court has to take this.
They can stay the dates in Colorado
and they'll move expeditiously.
I was struck by the majority opinion
and the amount of verbiage devoted to
the sort of strawman arguments.
You know, the real key issue in this case
is, is Trump an officer
in the
of the United States
in the context in which that term is used
in Article three of the 14th?
Right. And and in 2010, you know,
Chief Justice Roberts,
explain and and free enterprise
that
that people don't
vote for officers of the United States.
The article
two officers of the United States
is commonly understood
in the Constitution
to refer to appointed officials.
And to the extent that
the president or the vice president
are included as an officer or included
within
the admonitions of the Constitution,
they are typically highlighted
like in the impeachment clause,
which specifically says
President, vice president.
So I think this case will be handled
quickly.
I think it could be nine, though,
in Supreme Court for Trump.
And can I just say that would be
I mean, I emphasize
I don't ever like talking about
who appointed whom
because they like to just believe
in the impartiality of justice.
But nonetheless, it has become important.
So is Trump's already pointing out, oh,
the Colorado Supreme Court,
they were all appointed by Democrats.
Okay, sure. It's a43 ruling.
They didn't rule against you.
A Supreme Court,
you know, where we often hear about
how politicized it is.
And I know we're looking
into the distance here,
but if you're looking at nine
oh, that will be a statement.
Yeah, I think I mean, so
so I think I do believe it could be nine
oh, because I think the law is clear
and as and as you'll recall,
I was once an advocate of this position
and there have been
multiple law review articles,
the most prominent
by Billboard and his colleague.
I was on a panel with Professor board
at the University
of Chicago
Institute of Politics discussing this
and I heard his views
and and his scholarship is is excellent.
On the other hand, there's
there are multiple competing scholars who
who disagree and highlight
the point that I just made
about the multiple Supreme
Court decisions, which are three that
do not conclude that officers
as used in the context
as this context are
include the president
or the vice president.
And and after that,
I mean, there have been
many constitutional professors, Steve
Calabrese of Northwestern,
probably the most prominent one, who,
after reading
all of the scholarship, changed his mind.
He was originally a supporter of the idea
that this outcome was appropriate.
But he later concluded,
despite his strong feelings
against Trump,
that Trump would have to be beaten
at the ballot box.
And I think, sadly, that's the case.
And it will
it will be a race to get there.
I mean, the Supreme Court,
though, will not hesitate
to move quickly on this.
They know what the stakes are.
They know what their responsibility is.
Right.
And and they can delay
some of these Colorado dates
to the extent
that they feel they're obligated to
or have to right now.
And obviously,
his name remains on the ballot
until they rule one way or the other.
Right. That was one of the predicates
of the ruling today out of Colorado.
You hear the music tie.
That music is from Trump's
rally in Waterloo, Iowa.
He's there and he's on
stage and right now he's
basking in the
in the music and the crowd.
And then he'll
he'll he'll obviously speak.
Now we have this statement.
But I think that
when I just said to David
Axelrod that a Republican
in another swing state
who is dealing with some of these issues
comment was that
this ruling would supercharge
the extremists.
You know, what do you think as he walks out there,
is this something he sees
as basically a win in a certain sense?
Oh, totally. Oh, totally.
This is
this vindicates
his insistence
that this is a political conspiracy
to interfere with the election and that,
you know, that he's the target.
And people shouldn't
tolerate that in America.
It's it's yeah do to but
but that's his
that's the way he tries to sell this.
Now the reality is
he committed these crimes in 2021.
You know the the Jack Smith's only
been on the job for 13 months at most.
So this is,
you know, justice is moved
relatively speedy.
And this hasn't been so-called
to attack the election.
No, no, it is.
But I didn't mean to laugh.
I wasn't laughing like it was humorous,
but speedy,
I suppose, by the rules of the law
to so many it doesn't feel that way.
But but I understand your point.
The way the law works, it has the courts.
All right. Ty Cobb, thank you very much.
As we get more,
well, we'll be back with Ty.