♪ OH, HONEY, CHANCE LIKE >>> AS WE REPORTED, BETO
O’ROURKE HAS ENTERED THE 2020
PRESIDENTIAL RACE.
PRESIDENTIAL RACE. A NEW PROFILE IN "VANITY FAIR"
QUOTES HIM AS SAYING, I WANT TO
BE IN IT, MAN, I’M JUST BORN TO
BE IN IT.
BE IN IT. JOE, GOOD MORNING, GOOD TO SEE
YOU.
YOU. I WANT TO DIG DEEP INTO THIS
PIECE AND TALK ABOUT HOW IT CAME
TO THE.
TO THE. YOU’RE RIGHTING A PIECE ABOUT
BROUK
BROUK BRORK
BRORK BETO O’ROURKE, HE WAS NOT
PARTICIPATING ABOUT THE PIECE
UNTIL ONE DAY?
>> YES.
>> YES. I FIGURED I WAS FIVE DAYS
REPORTING THIS, PEOPLE WEREN’T
RESPONDING TO ME SO I WENT TO
HIS HOUSE.
HIS HOUSE. HE WAS ON THE VERANDA ON THE
PHONE.
PHONE. I WAVED HIM OVER.
HE CAME OVER AND TALKED TO ME
AND SAID COME IN AND MEET THE
WIFE AND KIDS.
IN A WAY I FEEL LOOK I GOT REAL
INSIGHT THERE BECAUSE HERE HE IS
NOT PREPARED.
NOT PREPARED. >> IS IT YOUR IMPRESSION HE EVER
WAS CONSIDERING NOT RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT?
PRESIDENT? A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT THE
MINUTE HE ALMOST BEAT TED CRUZ,
HE HAD DECIDED THAT HE SHOULD
RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
>> I THINK THAT HE ACTUALLY
DID -- THERE WAS A PERIOD OF
AMBIVALENCE FOR HIM.
I THINK HE HAD TO THINK ABOUT
WHAT HE COULD BRING AND ALSO
WHETHER HE HAD THE FORTITUDE.
THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION
HE WAS HAVING WITH HIMSELF
WHETHER HE HAD THIS FIRE IN THE
GUT THING.
GUT THING. AT WITHINONE POINT HE TOLD ME I
I JUST HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION
AND IT WILL COME.
>> HE FOUND IT ON THE ROAD TRIP.
>> WHICH I KNOW SOME PEOPLE --
THERE WAS SOME CRITICISM THAT
THIS WAS LIKE, OH, HE DOESN’T
HAVE A JOB, HE’S LIKE A WHITE
DUDE ON A ROAD TRIP AND THERE’S
THIS SORT OF PRIVILEGE QUESTION
ABOUT HIM AND YOU HEAR A LOT OF
THIS ON TWITTER.
>> THE POINT I RAISED ABOUT HOW
A WOMAN WOULD NEVER HAVE GOT I
DON’T KNOW AWAY WITH IT.
HIS WIFE SAW THAT AND SHE WAS
INSULTED BECAUSE SHE THOUSAND IT
IMPLIED SHE COULDN’T LOOK AFTER
THE KIDS.
THE KIDS. IT’S MORE THAT A WOMAN IN THAT
POSITION DOESN’T HAVE THE
LATITUDE TO DO THINGS THAT ARE A
BIT WHACKY.
BIT WHACKY. THEY HAVE A VERY NAIR OTHER PATH
TO SUCCESS AT THE TOP AND THEY
HAVE TO PLAY VERY STRAIGHT.
ONE THING THAT’S INTERESTING IS
HOW HE DEALT WITH THE FAILURE OF
LOSING.
LOSING. HE SAYS THEY WERE CONVINCED
DESPITE THE POLLS THAT THEY WERE
GOING TO WIN.
I’M ALWAYS INTERESTED IN HOW
CANDIDATES DEAL WITH FAILURE
AND --
AND -- >> HE WAS GENUINELY, YOU KNOW,
AND WHEN HE WON A RACE FOR
CONGRESS FROM 2012, HE ALSO
EXPERIENCED A DEPRESSION
AFTERWARDS.
AFTERWARDS. EVERYONE TOLD ME HE WENT INTO
THIS FUNK BECAUSE HE’S SUCH AN
ADRENALINE CAMPAIGNER.
ADRENALINE CAMPAIGNER. HE’S FAMOUS FOR KNOCKING ON
DOORS.
DOORS. SO HE HAD THAT SAME THING, BUT
HE ACTUALLY LOSS SO IT WAS
GENUINE
GENUINE GENUINE, HIS DEPRESSION.
HE WORKED HIS WAY OUT OF IT AND
HERE WE ARE.
IS IT REALLY TRUE THAT YOU CAN’T
DO WHAT HE’S DOING?
I DON’T KNOW.
BUT, YOU KNOW.
>> JOE, KIMBERLY ATKINS HAS A
QUESTION FOR YOU.
>> HI THERE, JOE.
YOU QUIPPED ABOUT HIM BEING A
WHITE DUDE ON THE ROAD.
HOW DOES HE OVERCOME THE FACT
THAT HE HIMSELF IS A, QUOTE
UNQUOTE, WHITE DUDE.
HE’S TALKED ABOUT THE GRIP OF
POWER RESTING WITHIN MIGHT MEN
IN POLITICS.
IN POLITICS. HOW DOES HE GET OVER THAT?
>> HE CAN’T OVERCOME BEING A
WHITE MAN.
WHITE MAN. I ASKED HIM DIRECT.
MAYBE THAT’S YOUR BIGGEST
PROBLEM THAT YOU’RE A WHITE MAN
IN A PARTY THAT IS NOT SEEKING
THAT.
THAT. HE SAID I UNDERSTAND THAT.
THE BEST I CAN DO IS I WANT TO
MAKE MY TEAM TO REPRESENT THE
COUNTRY, TO BE DIVERSE.
HE RECOGNIZES THAT THE CURRENT
WITHOUT IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF
THE COUNTRY AND HE WOULD TRY TO
CHANGE THAT IN TERMS OF HIS
TEAM.
TEAM. SO THAT’S THE BEST HE CAN DO, I
SUPPOSE.
SUPPOSE. >> SOME OF THE CRITICISM IS
PEOPLE AREN’T SURE OF WHAT HE
STANDS FOR, THAT HE’S A BLANK
CANVAS.
CANVAS. IS HE AWARE OF THAT CRITICISM?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> HOW IS HE GOING TO SELL THE
VOTES
VOTES VOTERS ON, HEY, I’M NOT JUST A
CHARISMATIC GUY, HERE’S WHAT I
BELIEVE IN.
BELIEVE IN. FIRST OF ALL, HE’S A CANNY GUY.
HE SEES HIMSELF AS SOMEBODY WHO
CAN SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THE BERNIE SANDERS GRASS ROOTS
AND THE JOE BIDEN.
THAT’S WHY THESE TWO CANDIDATES
ARE A LITTLE BIT SCARED OF HIM.
SANDERS WAS THE FIRST OUT OF
DOOR TO TRY TO DROP A DIME ON
HIM WHEN THESE PRESIDENTIAL
TALKS STARTED BECAUSE HE SEES
HIM AS A THREAT, BECAUSE HE
WANTS TO BASICALLY THREAD THE
NEEDLE HERE.
NEEDLE HERE. WHETHER HE CAN DO THAT, HOW HE
CAN DO THAT, WE’RE ABOUT TO FIND
OUT.
OUT. BUT WHEN HE WAS A CONGRESSMAN,
HIS THING WAS THAT HE WOULD WORK
WITH REPUBLICANS.
WITH REPUBLICANS. AND SOME LEFT WING DEMOCRATS
DON’T LOOK THAT.
IN FACT, HIS RECORD SHOWS THAT
HE DID SPONSOR BILLS WITH THE
REPUBLICAN FROM TEXAS.
SO HE SEES THAT AS AN ASSET.
WE’LL SEE IF HE CAN KIND OF IN
TERMS OF HIS POLICY
PRESCRIPTIONS COME UP WITH A
BALANCE THAT MAKES EVERYBODY
HAPPY.
HAPPY. HE’S GOING TO HAVE TO DEFINE
HIMSELF ON THE FLY.
>> I HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK.
CAN YOU STICK AROUND A BIT?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THE PRESIDENT UP AND TWEETING
THIS MORNING.
THIS MORNING. HE APPEARS TO BE WARNING ABOUT