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PAUL: A STUNNING NEW UNITED
NATIONS REPORT WAS LEAKED THIS
WEEK CLAIMING THAT NORTH KOREA
HAS BEEN SENDING EQUIPMENT TO
DAMASCUS THAT COULD BE USED TO
MAKE CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
THE REPORT DOCUMENTS AT LEAST 40
PREVIOUSLY UNREPORTED SHIPMENTS
OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS COMPONENTS
BETWEEN 2012 AND 2017.
AND SAYS THAT NORTH KOREAN
MISSILE TECHNICIANS WERE SEEN
WORKING AT SYRIAN CHEMICAL
WEAPONS FACILITIES.
THE ALLEGATIONS JUST THE LATEST
IN A STRING OF TROUBLING
DEVELOPMENTS AS SYRIA'S
7-YEAR-OLD CIVIL WAR THREATENS
TO ENGULF THE REGION.
I SPOKE TO SOUTH CAROLINA
SENATOR GRAHAM WHO JUST RETURNED
FROM A TRIP TO THE ISRAEL SYRIA
BORDER.
>> YOU JUST GOT BACK FROM THE
MIDDLE EAST.
TALK ABOUT THAT.
BUT FIRST I WANT TO TALK TO YOU
ABOUT THE NEWS, YOUR REACTION TO
THE NEWS FROM THE U.N. THAT THE
SUPPLIED MATERIAL AND EXPERTS
FOR SYRIA TO BUILD CHEMICAL
WEAPONS PLANTS, GOING BACK MANY
YEARS, BUT AS RECENTLY AS THE
LAST TWO.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
>> WELL, IF THE U.N. FOUND IT,
IT WAS PRETTY OBVIOUS.
[LAUGHTER]
>> ALL KIDDING ASIDE, THE
BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT ALLOWING
NORTH KOREA MORE CAPABILITY IS
THAT THEY SHARE THEIR CAPABILITY
OR SELL IT.
SO THE IDEA OF ALLOWING THEM TO
BUILD AN ICBM WITH A NUCLEAR
WEAPON ON TOP TO HIT AMERICA IS
A NONSTARTER BECAUSE THEY ARE
LIKELY TO TAKE THAT TECHNOLOGY
AND SHARE IT OR SELL IT SO
THAT'S WHY I THINK PRESIDENT
TRUMP IS RIGHT TO DENY THEM THE
CAPABILITY TO HIT THE HOMELAND.
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF
HOW THEY SHARE THEIR TECHNOLOGY
WITH BAD ACTORS.
PAUL: THERE'S NO WAY IN YOUR
VIEW THAT WE CAN CONTAIN NORTH
KOREA LIKE SUSAN RICE AND OTHERS
SAY BECAUSE WE CAN THREATEN
MASSIVE RETALIATION?
>> YEAH.
PAUL: YOU ARE SAYING THEY WILL
JUST SELL IT?
>> YEAH, I THINK IT'S THE
HARDEST DECISION ANY PRESIDENT
HAS TO MAKE.
THERE'S NO PLACE TO KICK THE CAN
NOW.
WE'VE RUN OUT OF OPTIONS PRETTY
MUCH IN NORTH KOREA.
NOW IS THE TIME TO TELL THEM TO
STOP.
SO THE PRESIDENT'S MADE A
DECISION.
I'M GOING TO DENY THEM THE
CAPABILITY TO HIT THE HOMELAND
WITH A NUCLEAR WEAPON THROUGH AN
ICBM AND THE MAIN REASON THAT WE
WANT TO DO THAT IS IF YOU ALLOW
THEM ONE HYDROGEN BOMB, THEY
WILL GET 50 OVER TIME AND THEY
WILL SELL IT OR GIVE IT AWAY
JUST LIKE YOU SEE WITH THIS
EPISODE IN SYRIA.
SO I DON'T THINK CONTAINMENT
WORKS.
I THINK THEY ARE LIKELY TO SELL
ANYTHING THEY BUILD.
THAT'S A NIGHTMARE FOR THE WORLD
AT LARGE.
PAUL: IN SYRIA YOU LOOKED,
INSPECTED THE ISRAELI SYRIAN
BORDER.
>> YES.
PAUL: YOU CAN LOOK DOWN ON THAT
DAMASCUS PLANE AS YOU KNOW --
WHAT'S GOING ON THERE?
HOW BIG A PROBLEM IS THIS?
THE MILITARY BUILDUP BY IRAN AND
HEZBOLLAH AND LEBANON AND RUSSIA
IN SYRIA?
>> IT'S FAR WORSE THAN I THOUGHT
IT WOULD BE.
ON THE ISRAELI SIDE, YOU CAN SEE
RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU A VILLAGE
AND SYRIAN DEMOCRATIC FORCES
HANDS.
YOU CAN SEE ONE VILLAGE OVER IN
ASSAD'S HANDS WITH HEZBOLLAH
FLAGS FLYING.
20 MILES DOWN THE ROAD, THERE'S
A TOWN OF 80,000 PEOPLE.
SO THE ASSAD REGIME IS MOVING
ALL THROUGHOUT SYRIA.
THE SYRIAN DEMOCRATIC FORCES ARE
COLLAPSING.
AND WHEREVER ASSAD GOES,
HEZBOLLAH GOES WITH HIM.
AND THAT'S A NIGHTMARE FOR
ISRAEL.
PAUL: WELL AND WE HAD THE
SKIRMISH THERE RECENTLY WITH
IRAN SENDING A DRONE INTO
ISRAEL, ISRAEL RETALIATING.
>> RIGHT.
PAUL: HOW REGULARLY IS ISRAEL
BOMBING IN SYRIA TO STOP THE
BUILDUP?
>> PRETTY REGULARLY.
THE FEAR IS BETWEEN DAMASCUS AND
BEIRUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A
CORRIDOR WHERE WEAPONS CAN PASS.
THE ENVIRONMENT ALONG THE
SYRIAN, ISRAELI BORDER, IS
TURNING BAD FOR ISRAEL AT A
PRETTY RAPID PACE.
SOUTHERN LEBANON IS A NIGHTMARE.
IT MAKES GAZA LOOKS STABLE.
THE ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCES SAID
THERE ARE OVER 100,000 ROCKETS
AND MISSILES IN THE HANDS OF
HEZBOLLAH IN SOUTHERN LEBANON.
AS YOU RECALL, ISRAEL WITHDREW
FROM SOUTHERN LEBANON YEARS AGO.
THE UNITED NATIONS WAS SUPPOSED
TO POLICE THE AREA.
THE UNITED NATIONS INTERIM FORCE
LEBANON HAS SAT ON THE SIDELINES
AND WATCHED HEZBOLLAH DOMINATE
SOUTHERN LEBANON WITH MISSILE
TECHNOLOGY THAT NOW THREATENS
EVERY PART OF ISRAEL.
SO IT'S A MATTER OF TIME UNTIL
ISRAEL STRIKES SOUTHERN LEBANON.
PAUL: IT SEEMS TO ME THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION HAS SAID
RHETORICALLY THEY ARE GOING TO
EXPOSE EXPANSION IN THE MIDDLE
EAST -- I RAIN YIN EXPANSION IN