RUSSIANS HOPING TO BUY A NEW
RUSSIANS HOPING TO BUY A NEW IPHONE OR MICROSOFT SOFTWARE
RUSSIANS HOPING TO BUY A NEW IPHONE OR MICROSOFT SOFTWARE MAY BE OUT OF LUCK AS TECH
IPHONE OR MICROSOFT SOFTWARE MAY BE OUT OF LUCK AS TECH COMPANIES CONTINUE TO SUSPEND
MAY BE OUT OF LUCK AS TECH COMPANIES CONTINUE TO SUSPEND SALES IN THE COUNTRY.
COMPANIES CONTINUE TO SUSPEND SALES IN THE COUNTRY. APPLE MICROSOFT AND EA
SALES IN THE COUNTRY. APPLE MICROSOFT AND EA GAMES HAVE ANNOUNCED THAT THEY
APPLE MICROSOFT AND EA GAMES HAVE ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WILL STOP SELLING PRODUCTS AND
GAMES HAVE ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WILL STOP SELLING PRODUCTS AND RUSSIA BECAUSE OF ITS INVASION
WILL STOP SELLING PRODUCTS AND RUSSIA BECAUSE OF ITS INVASION OF UKRAINE
RUSSIA BECAUSE OF ITS INVASION OF UKRAINE AND MULTIPLE COMPANIES HAVE
OF UKRAINE AND MULTIPLE COMPANIES HAVE STOPPED SHIPMENTS OF COMPUTER
AND MULTIPLE COMPANIES HAVE STOPPED SHIPMENTS OF COMPUTER CHIPS, AND OTHER VALUABLE
STOPPED SHIPMENTS OF COMPUTER CHIPS, AND OTHER VALUABLE COMPONENTS, BUT IT‘S IT,
CHIPS, AND OTHER VALUABLE COMPONENTS, BUT IT‘S IT, ESPECIALLY COMPLICATED
COMPONENTS, BUT IT‘S IT, ESPECIALLY COMPLICATED BALANCING ACT FOR SOCIAL MEDIA
ESPECIALLY COMPLICATED BALANCING ACT FOR SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES AND VIDEO PLATFORMS
BALANCING ACT FOR SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES AND VIDEO PLATFORMS LIKE YOUTUBE AND NETFLIX
COMPANIES AND VIDEO PLATFORMS LIKE YOUTUBE AND NETFLIX FOR THEM. IT‘S NOT JUST ABOUT
LIKE YOUTUBE AND NETFLIX FOR THEM. IT‘S NOT JUST ABOUT PULLING
FOR THEM. IT‘S NOT JUST ABOUT PULLING THEIR BUSINESS HOURS.
PULLING THEIR BUSINESS HOURS. IT‘S ABOUT WHAT CONTENT TO
THEIR BUSINESS HOURS. IT‘S ABOUT WHAT CONTENT TO ALLOW ON THEIR SERVICES?
IT‘S ABOUT WHAT CONTENT TO ALLOW ON THEIR SERVICES? SERVICES, FACEBOOK AND TWITTER
ALLOW ON THEIR SERVICES? SERVICES, FACEBOOK AND TWITTER HAVE REMOVED A NUMBER OF
SERVICES, FACEBOOK AND TWITTER HAVE REMOVED A NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS THAT HAVE BEEN
HAVE REMOVED A NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS THAT HAVE BEEN SPREADING DISINFORMATION
ACCOUNTS THAT HAVE BEEN SPREADING DISINFORMATION ABOUT THE RUSSIAN INVASION.
SPREADING DISINFORMATION ABOUT THE RUSSIAN INVASION. THEY‘VE ALSO RESTRICTED THE
ABOUT THE RUSSIAN INVASION. THEY‘VE ALSO RESTRICTED THE SPREAD OF RUSSIAN STATE MEDIA
THEY‘VE ALSO RESTRICTED THE SPREAD OF RUSSIAN STATE MEDIA OUTLETS LIKE ARTIE
SPREAD OF RUSSIAN STATE MEDIA OUTLETS LIKE ARTIE AND SPUTNIK
OUTLETS LIKE ARTIE AND SPUTNIK NETFLIX HAS SCALED BACK ITS
AND SPUTNIK NETFLIX HAS SCALED BACK ITS PROJECTS IN RUSSIA AND IS
NETFLIX HAS SCALED BACK ITS PROJECTS IN RUSSIA AND IS REFUSING A REQUIREMENT THAT
PROJECTS IN RUSSIA AND IS REFUSING A REQUIREMENT THAT IT CARRIES STATE-RUN
REFUSING A REQUIREMENT THAT IT CARRIES STATE-RUN BROADCASTERS FOR ITS RUSSIAN
IT CARRIES STATE-RUN BROADCASTERS FOR ITS RUSSIAN USERS
BROADCASTERS FOR ITS RUSSIAN USERS WHEN IT COMES TO ECONOMIC
USERS WHEN IT COMES TO ECONOMIC SANCTIONS, THOUGH. THE
WHEN IT COMES TO ECONOMIC SANCTIONS, THOUGH. THE CHALLENGE IS TRADITIONALLY HOW
SANCTIONS, THOUGH. THE CHALLENGE IS TRADITIONALLY HOW TO TARGET THE
CHALLENGE IS TRADITIONALLY HOW TO TARGET THE POWERFUL.
TO TARGET THE POWERFUL. WHILE LIMITING THE HARM TO
POWERFUL. WHILE LIMITING THE HARM TO EVERYONE ELSE.
WHILE LIMITING THE HARM TO EVERYONE ELSE. SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES ARE
EVERYONE ELSE. SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES ARE FACING A SIMILAR DILEMMA.
SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES ARE FACING A SIMILAR DILEMMA. NOW, AS THE NEW YORK TIMES
FACING A SIMILAR DILEMMA. NOW, AS THE NEW YORK TIMES POINTS OUT, IF
NOW, AS THE NEW YORK TIMES POINTS OUT, IF GOOGLE META, TWITTER
POINTS OUT, IF GOOGLE META, TWITTER AND OTHERS, TAKE SOME STEPS
GOOGLE META, TWITTER AND OTHERS, TAKE SOME STEPS AND NOT OTHERS. THEY MIGHT BE
AND OTHERS, TAKE SOME STEPS AND NOT OTHERS. THEY MIGHT BE ACCUSED OF DOING TOO LITTLE
AND NOT OTHERS. THEY MIGHT BE ACCUSED OF DOING TOO LITTLE AND LOOKING HALF-HEARTED BUT
ACCUSED OF DOING TOO LITTLE AND LOOKING HALF-HEARTED BUT CURBING TOO, MANY SERVICES AND
AND LOOKING HALF-HEARTED BUT CURBING TOO, MANY SERVICES AND INFORMATION
CURBING TOO, MANY SERVICES AND INFORMATION MIGHT ALSO CUT OFF ORDINARY
INFORMATION MIGHT ALSO CUT OFF ORDINARY RUSSIANS FROM THE DIGITAL
MIGHT ALSO CUT OFF ORDINARY RUSSIANS FROM THE DIGITAL CONVERSATIONS THAT CAN
RUSSIANS FROM THE DIGITAL CONVERSATIONS THAT CAN COUNTERACT
CONVERSATIONS THAT CAN COUNTERACT STATE-RUN PROPAGANDA
COUNTERACT STATE-RUN PROPAGANDA THE CONFLICT IN UKRAINE, IS
STATE-RUN PROPAGANDA THE CONFLICT IN UKRAINE, IS ALSO AN INFORMATION WAR
THE CONFLICT IN UKRAINE, IS ALSO AN INFORMATION WAR AND TECH COMPANIES
ALSO AN INFORMATION WAR AND TECH COMPANIES ARE ON THE FRONT.
AND TECH COMPANIES ARE ON THE FRONT. MEANS WHETHER OR NOT THEY‘RE
ARE ON THE FRONT. MEANS WHETHER OR NOT THEY‘RE PREPARED TO BE
MEANS WHETHER OR NOT THEY‘RE PREPARED TO BE JOINING ME NOW IS ALEX
PREPARED TO BE JOINING ME NOW IS ALEX STAMOS
JOINING ME NOW IS ALEX STAMOS CYBER SECURITY EXPERT AND
STAMOS CYBER SECURITY EXPERT AND PARTNER AT KREBS STAINLESS
CYBER SECURITY EXPERT AND PARTNER AT KREBS STAINLESS GROUP. HE ALSO ONCE SERVED
PARTNER AT KREBS STAINLESS GROUP. HE ALSO ONCE SERVED AS THE CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER
GROUP. HE ALSO ONCE SERVED AS THE CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER FOR FACEBOOK,
AS THE CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER FOR FACEBOOK, ALEX. THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
FOR FACEBOOK, ALEX. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. LET‘S START WITH THAT
ALEX. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. LET‘S START WITH THAT BALANCING ACT THAT THE NEW
LET‘S START WITH THAT BALANCING ACT THAT THE NEW YORK TIMES LAID OUT HOW
BALANCING ACT THAT THE NEW YORK TIMES LAID OUT HOW GOOD A JOB ARE TECH COMPANIES
YORK TIMES LAID OUT HOW GOOD A JOB ARE TECH COMPANIES DOING AT LIMITING. THE
GOOD A JOB ARE TECH COMPANIES DOING AT LIMITING. THE DISINFORMATION AND THE RUSSIAN
DOING AT LIMITING. THE DISINFORMATION AND THE RUSSIAN STATE PROPAGANDA
DISINFORMATION AND THE RUSSIAN STATE PROPAGANDA WHILE ALLOWING DESCENT TO
STATE PROPAGANDA WHILE ALLOWING DESCENT TO STILL BE SHARED.
WHILE ALLOWING DESCENT TO STILL BE SHARED. SO, THERE‘S REALLY TWO CLASSES
STILL BE SHARED. SO, THERE‘S REALLY TWO CLASSES OF RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION. WE
SO, THERE‘S REALLY TWO CLASSES OF RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HERE. SO
OF RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HERE. SO THERE‘S COVERT DISINFORMATION
HAVE TO LOOK AT HERE. SO THERE‘S COVERT DISINFORMATION WHERE THE RUSSIANS ARE
THERE‘S COVERT DISINFORMATION WHERE THE RUSSIANS ARE PRETENDING TO BE DIFFERENT
WHERE THE RUSSIANS ARE PRETENDING TO BE DIFFERENT KINDS OF USERS OFTEN.
PRETENDING TO BE DIFFERENT KINDS OF USERS OFTEN. AMERICANS OR WESTERNERS IN
KINDS OF USERS OFTEN. AMERICANS OR WESTERNERS IN THE RELEVANT COUNTRIES IN
AMERICANS OR WESTERNERS IN THE RELEVANT COUNTRIES IN EUROPE, AND THEY ARE
THE RELEVANT COUNTRIES IN EUROPE, AND THEY ARE CREATING FAKE ACCOUNTS. THEY
EUROPE, AND THEY ARE CREATING FAKE ACCOUNTS. THEY ARE PUSHING
CREATING FAKE ACCOUNTS. THEY ARE PUSHING THE
ARE PUSHING THE PUTIN‘S PROPAGANDA VIEW
THE PUTIN‘S PROPAGANDA VIEW AND TRYING TO CREATE THE IDEA
PUTIN‘S PROPAGANDA VIEW AND TRYING TO CREATE THE IDEA THAT THERE‘S A GROUNDSWELL OF
AND TRYING TO CREATE THE IDEA THAT THERE‘S A GROUNDSWELL OF SUPPORT
THAT THERE‘S A GROUNDSWELL OF SUPPORT FOR PUTIN OR GROUNDSWELL OF
SUPPORT FOR PUTIN OR GROUNDSWELL OF SUPPORT
FOR PUTIN OR GROUNDSWELL OF SUPPORT AGAINST NATO.
SUPPORT AGAINST NATO. AND WHAT WE‘VE SEEN SOME
AGAINST NATO. AND WHAT WE‘VE SEEN SOME GAINS HERE.
AND WHAT WE‘VE SEEN SOME GAINS HERE. THE TECH COMPANIES
GAINS HERE. THE TECH COMPANIES ARE ANNOUNCEMENTS OF TWO MAJOR
THE TECH COMPANIES ARE ANNOUNCEMENTS OF TWO MAJOR CAMPAIGNS. THEY SHUT DOWN. ONE
ARE ANNOUNCEMENTS OF TWO MAJOR CAMPAIGNS. THEY SHUT DOWN. ONE WERE JUST A CREATION OF FAKE
CAMPAIGNS. THEY SHUT DOWN. ONE WERE JUST A CREATION OF FAKE ACCOUNTS THE OTHER BY A
WERE JUST A CREATION OF FAKE ACCOUNTS THE OTHER BY A GROUP THAT‘S RELATED TO THE
ACCOUNTS THE OTHER BY A GROUP THAT‘S RELATED TO THE BELARUSIAN
GROUP THAT‘S RELATED TO THE BELARUSIAN MILITARY. THAT WAS ACTUALLY
BREAKING INTO THE ACCOUNTS OF
BREAKING INTO THE ACCOUNTS OF INFLUENCERS AND USING HIGH
BREAKING INTO THE ACCOUNTS OF INFLUENCERS AND USING HIGH PROFILE ACCOUNTS TO SPREAD
INFLUENCERS AND USING HIGH PROFILE ACCOUNTS TO SPREAD DISINFORMATION. AND SO, IN
PROFILE ACCOUNTS TO SPREAD DISINFORMATION. AND SO, IN THOSE CASES, I THINK THE
DISINFORMATION. AND SO, IN THOSE CASES, I THINK THE COMPANIES ARE DOING MUCH
THOSE CASES, I THINK THE COMPANIES ARE DOING MUCH BETTER THAN THEY HAVE IN THE
COMPANIES ARE DOING MUCH BETTER THAN THEY HAVE IN THE PAST
BETTER THAN THEY HAVE IN THE PAST AND ARE ON TOP OF IT. THE MORE
PAST AND ARE ON TOP OF IT. THE MORE COMPLICATED ISSUE IS IN THE
AND ARE ON TOP OF IT. THE MORE COMPLICATED ISSUE IS IN THE OVER PROPAGANDA. SO THOSE ARE
COMPLICATED ISSUE IS IN THE OVER PROPAGANDA. SO THOSE ARE OUTLETS LIKE ARTIE AND
OVER PROPAGANDA. SO THOSE ARE OUTLETS LIKE ARTIE AND SPUTNIK, BUT ALSO THE
OUTLETS LIKE ARTIE AND SPUTNIK, BUT ALSO THE BIG
SPUTNIK, BUT ALSO THE BIG ECOSYSTEM.
BIG ECOSYSTEM. OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THEIR
ECOSYSTEM. OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THEIR PAYROLL
OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THEIR PAYROLL TO SPREAD DISINFORMATION.
PAYROLL TO SPREAD DISINFORMATION. NOW, FOR YEARS THE
TO SPREAD DISINFORMATION. NOW, FOR YEARS THE PLATFORM‘S HAVE TRACKED THOSE
NOW, FOR YEARS THE PLATFORM‘S HAVE TRACKED THOSE OUTLETS AND HAVE CREATED RULES
PLATFORM‘S HAVE TRACKED THOSE OUTLETS AND HAVE CREATED RULES AROUND LABELING.
OUTLETS AND HAVE CREATED RULES AROUND LABELING. WHAT
AROUND LABELING. WHAT THEY HAVE FINALLY DONE BECAUSE
WHAT THEY HAVE FINALLY DONE BECAUSE OF THIS IS THEY‘VE
THEY HAVE FINALLY DONE BECAUSE OF THIS IS THEY‘VE SIGNIFICANTLY LIMIT THE REACH
OF THIS IS THEY‘VE SIGNIFICANTLY LIMIT THE REACH AT LEAST OF RUSSIAN STATE
SIGNIFICANTLY LIMIT THE REACH AT LEAST OF RUSSIAN STATE MEDIA.
AT LEAST OF RUSSIAN STATE MEDIA. AND SO, IT TOOK SEVERAL DAYS
MEDIA. AND SO, IT TOOK SEVERAL DAYS IN THE BEGINNING TO DO IT.
AND SO, IT TOOK SEVERAL DAYS IN THE BEGINNING TO DO IT. THERE‘S SOME FLAILING BUT I DO
IN THE BEGINNING TO DO IT. THERE‘S SOME FLAILING BUT I DO THINK THEY‘VE ENDED UP IN A
THERE‘S SOME FLAILING BUT I DO THINK THEY‘VE ENDED UP IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE THAN THEY
THINK THEY‘VE ENDED UP IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE THAN THEY WERE JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS
MUCH BETTER PLACE THAN THEY WERE JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
WERE JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. YEAH, BUT ALEX, EVEN BEFORE
AGO. YEAH, BUT ALEX, EVEN BEFORE THIS INVASION OF UKRAINE BY
YEAH, BUT ALEX, EVEN BEFORE THIS INVASION OF UKRAINE BY RUSSIA, HOW EFFECTIVE WERE
RUSSIA, RIGHT? SO HOW
RUSSIA, RIGHT? SO HOW EFFECTIVE WERE THESE
RUSSIA, RIGHT? SO HOW EFFECTIVE WERE THESE FAIL-SAFES BY THESE COMPANIES
EFFECTIVE WERE THESE FAIL-SAFES BY THESE COMPANIES LIKE FACEBOOK, FOR EXAMPLE, IN
FAIL-SAFES BY THESE COMPANIES LIKE FACEBOOK, FOR EXAMPLE, IN A COUNTRY LIKE RUSSIA.
LIKE FACEBOOK, FOR EXAMPLE, IN A COUNTRY LIKE RUSSIA. SO, IN RUSSIA ITSELF,
A COUNTRY LIKE RUSSIA. SO, IN RUSSIA ITSELF, IT‘S A MUCH MORE COMPLICATED
SO, IN RUSSIA ITSELF, IT‘S A MUCH MORE COMPLICATED SITUATION.
IT‘S A MUCH MORE COMPLICATED SITUATION. THE VAST MAJORITY OF RUSSIAN
SITUATION. THE VAST MAJORITY OF RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA
THE VAST MAJORITY OF RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA IS TARGETED AT RUSSIANS AND WE
PROPAGANDA IS TARGETED AT RUSSIANS AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT LIKE THE
IS TARGETED AT RUSSIANS AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THE
HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THE CAPABILITY THAT PUTIN AND THE
MAJORITY OF THE CAPABILITY THAT PUTIN AND THE OLIGARCHS AROUND HIM HAVE
CAPABILITY THAT PUTIN AND THE OLIGARCHS AROUND HIM HAVE BUILT OVER THE LAST DECADE IS
OLIGARCHS AROUND HIM HAVE BUILT OVER THE LAST DECADE IS TARGETED AT CONVINCING NORMAL
BUILT OVER THE LAST DECADE IS TARGETED AT CONVINCING NORMAL RUSSIANS TO SUPPORT PUTIN. TO
TARGETED AT CONVINCING NORMAL RUSSIANS TO SUPPORT PUTIN. TO SUPPORT HIS POLITICAL PARTY TO
RUSSIANS TO SUPPORT PUTIN. TO SUPPORT HIS POLITICAL PARTY TO NOT LISTEN TO
SUPPORT HIS POLITICAL PARTY TO NOT LISTEN TO DISSENT FROM FOLKS, LIKE
NOT LISTEN TO DISSENT FROM FOLKS, LIKE ALEX, NAVALNY, AND SUCH
DISSENT FROM FOLKS, LIKE ALEX, NAVALNY, AND SUCH AND SO THAT
ALEX, NAVALNY, AND SUCH AND SO THAT CAPABILITY HAS STILL BEEN
AND SO THAT CAPABILITY HAS STILL BEEN PRETTY EFFECTIVE. NOW. YOU
CAPABILITY HAS STILL BEEN PRETTY EFFECTIVE. NOW. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, WE
PRETTY EFFECTIVE. NOW. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT FACEBOOK.
HAVE TO REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT FACEBOOK. QUITTER, THERE‘S A LITTLE BIT
TALKED ABOUT FACEBOOK. QUITTER, THERE‘S A LITTLE BIT OF AMERICAN CHAUVINISM HERE.
QUITTER, THERE‘S A LITTLE BIT OF AMERICAN CHAUVINISM HERE. THE AMERICAN PLATFORMS ARE NOT
OF AMERICAN CHAUVINISM HERE. THE AMERICAN PLATFORMS ARE NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT IN RUSSIA
THE AMERICAN PLATFORMS ARE NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT IN RUSSIA AND UKRAINE,
THE MOST IMPORTANT IN RUSSIA AND UKRAINE, PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT
AND UKRAINE, PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PLATFORM IS TELEGRAM
PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PLATFORM IS TELEGRAM TELEGRAM, WAS STARTED BY A
PLATFORM IS TELEGRAM TELEGRAM, WAS STARTED BY A RUSSIAN WHO HAD DISAGREEMENTS
TELEGRAM, WAS STARTED BY A RUSSIAN WHO HAD DISAGREEMENTS WITH THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT
RUSSIAN WHO HAD DISAGREEMENTS WITH THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT WHO HAD FIGHTS WITH SOME OF
WITH THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT WHO HAD FIGHTS WITH SOME OF THE OLD GUARDS FINANCIALLY, HE
WHO HAD FIGHTS WITH SOME OF THE OLD GUARDS FINANCIALLY, HE LIVES OUTSIDE OF RUSSIA. NOW,
THE OLD GUARDS FINANCIALLY, HE LIVES OUTSIDE OF RUSSIA. NOW, HE WROTE A BIG IMPASSIONED
LIVES OUTSIDE OF RUSSIA. NOW, HE WROTE A BIG IMPASSIONED SPEECH TODAY ON
HE WROTE A BIG IMPASSIONED SPEECH TODAY ON HOW HE HAS YOU.
SPEECH TODAY ON HOW HE HAS YOU. INDIAN HERITAGE,
HOW HE HAS YOU. INDIAN HERITAGE, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN KIND
INDIAN HERITAGE, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN KIND OF MYSTERIOUS TIES BETWEEN
YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN KIND OF MYSTERIOUS TIES BETWEEN TELEGRAM IN THE RUSSIAN
OF MYSTERIOUS TIES BETWEEN TELEGRAM IN THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT IN THE PAST AND
TELEGRAM IN THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT IN THE PAST AND WHAT THEY‘RE DOING AROUND
GOVERNMENT IN THE PAST AND WHAT THEY‘RE DOING AROUND RUSSIAN. DISINFORMATION IS
WHAT THEY‘RE DOING AROUND RUSSIAN. DISINFORMATION IS ACTUALLY PROBABLY MUCH MORE
RUSSIAN. DISINFORMATION IS ACTUALLY PROBABLY MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHAT AMERICAN
ACTUALLY PROBABLY MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHAT AMERICAN COMPANIES ARE DOING, BUT SO
IMPORTANT THAN WHAT AMERICAN COMPANIES ARE DOING, BUT SO FAR,
COMPANIES ARE DOING, BUT SO FAR, PUTIN‘S HOLD OVER
FAR, PUTIN‘S HOLD OVER INFORMATION. INTERNALLY HAS
PUTIN‘S HOLD OVER INFORMATION. INTERNALLY HAS ONLY GROWN
INFORMATION. INTERNALLY HAS ONLY GROWN UNTIL THIS LAST WEEK.
ONLY GROWN UNTIL THIS LAST WEEK. RUSSIA HAD A MUCH MORE OPEN
UNTIL THIS LAST WEEK. RUSSIA HAD A MUCH MORE OPEN INFORMATION ENVIRONMENT THAN
RUSSIA HAD A MUCH MORE OPEN INFORMATION ENVIRONMENT THAN SAY THE PEOPLE‘S REPUBLIC OF
INFORMATION ENVIRONMENT THAN SAY THE PEOPLE‘S REPUBLIC OF CHINA. WHERE WESTERN SOCIAL
SAY THE PEOPLE‘S REPUBLIC OF CHINA. WHERE WESTERN SOCIAL MEDIA, WESTERN MEDIA HAS BEEN
CHINA. WHERE WESTERN SOCIAL MEDIA, WESTERN MEDIA HAS BEEN BLOCKED IN CHINA FOR A LONG
MEDIA, WESTERN MEDIA HAS BEEN BLOCKED IN CHINA FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME
BLOCKED IN CHINA FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND STILL AVAILABLE IN RUSSIA.
PERIOD OF TIME AND STILL AVAILABLE IN RUSSIA. THAT IS
AND STILL AVAILABLE IN RUSSIA. THAT IS CHANGING. AND SO
THAT IS CHANGING. AND SO SO NOW
CHANGING. AND SO SO NOW WE‘RE BOTH HIS PROPAGANDA
SO NOW WE‘RE BOTH HIS PROPAGANDA ABILITIES AND THEN CUTTING
WE‘RE BOTH HIS PROPAGANDA ABILITIES AND THEN CUTTING OFF DISSENTING VOICES,
ABILITIES AND THEN CUTTING OFF DISSENTING VOICES, PUTIN IS TRYING TO SEAL THE
OFF DISSENTING VOICES, PUTIN IS TRYING TO SEAL THE RUSSIAN
PUTIN IS TRYING TO SEAL THE RUSSIAN POPULOUS IN AS MUCH AS
RUSSIAN POPULOUS IN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE
POPULOUS IN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND TO TRY TO STIMULATE AS
POSSIBLE AND TO TRY TO STIMULATE AS MUCH SUPPORT AS POSSIBLE FOR
AND TO TRY TO STIMULATE AS MUCH SUPPORT AS POSSIBLE FOR WHAT HAS SO FAR BEEN A
MUCH SUPPORT AS POSSIBLE FOR WHAT HAS SO FAR BEEN A DISASTROUS WAR FOR HIM,
WHAT HAS SO FAR BEEN A DISASTROUS WAR FOR HIM, YOU KNOW, THE US HAS
DISASTROUS WAR FOR HIM, YOU KNOW, THE US HAS AND ITS GOVERNMENT CAREER.
YOU KNOW, THE US HAS AND ITS GOVERNMENT CAREER. FOREIGN POLICY EXPERTS THAT
AND ITS GOVERNMENT CAREER. FOREIGN POLICY EXPERTS THAT ARE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT
FOREIGN POLICY EXPERTS THAT ARE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT THINGS LIKE ECONOMIC SANCTIONS
ARE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT THINGS LIKE ECONOMIC SANCTIONS AND RESTRICTIONS,
THINGS LIKE ECONOMIC SANCTIONS AND RESTRICTIONS, WHO‘S MAKING THE DECISIONS
AND RESTRICTIONS, WHO‘S MAKING THE DECISIONS WITHIN THESE TECH COMPANIES
WHO‘S MAKING THE DECISIONS WITHIN THESE TECH COMPANIES ABOUT WHAT INFORMATION TO
WITHIN THESE TECH COMPANIES ABOUT WHAT INFORMATION TO ALLOW AND WHAT INFORMATION TO
ABOUT WHAT INFORMATION TO ALLOW AND WHAT INFORMATION TO RESTRICT IN A SETTING LIKE
ALLOW AND WHAT INFORMATION TO RESTRICT IN A SETTING LIKE A WAR.
RESTRICT IN A SETTING LIKE A WAR. YEAH, SO THAT‘S A REALLY GREAT
A WAR. YEAH, SO THAT‘S A REALLY GREAT POINT AND
YEAH, SO THAT‘S A REALLY GREAT POINT AND THIS COMES RIGHT BACK DOWN TO
POINT AND THIS COMES RIGHT BACK DOWN TO KIND OF
THIS COMES RIGHT BACK DOWN TO KIND OF THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT WE
KIND OF THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT WE HAVE OVER THE NEXT DECADE.
THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT WE HAVE OVER THE NEXT DECADE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
HAVE OVER THE NEXT DECADE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INTERNET PLATFORMS, WHICH IS
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INTERNET PLATFORMS, WHICH IS WHO HAS THE POWER TO MAKE
INTERNET PLATFORMS, WHICH IS WHO HAS THE POWER TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS
WHO HAS THE POWER TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS AND ARE THEY ACCOUNTABLE TO
THESE DECISIONS AND ARE THEY ACCOUNTABLE TO ANYBODY EITHER? JUST FROM A
AND ARE THEY ACCOUNTABLE TO ANYBODY EITHER? JUST FROM A TRANSPARENCY PERSPECTIVE OR
ANYBODY EITHER? JUST FROM A TRANSPARENCY PERSPECTIVE OR PREFERABLY
TRANSPARENCY PERSPECTIVE OR PREFERABLY DEMOCRATICALLY.
PREFERABLY DEMOCRATICALLY. THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT IF
DEMOCRATICALLY. THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT IF YOU ASK ANY TECH COMPANY,
THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT IF YOU ASK ANY TECH COMPANY, DO YOU FOLLOW THE LAW IN THE
YOU ASK ANY TECH COMPANY, DO YOU FOLLOW THE LAW IN THE COUNTRIES WHERE YOU OPERATE?
DO YOU FOLLOW THE LAW IN THE COUNTRIES WHERE YOU OPERATE? THEY SAY? YES, OF COURSE, WE
COUNTRIES WHERE YOU OPERATE? THEY SAY? YES, OF COURSE, WE FOLLOW THE LAW AND IF YOU ASK
THEY SAY? YES, OF COURSE, WE FOLLOW THE LAW AND IF YOU ASK HIM, DO YOU PROTECT HUMAN
FOLLOW THE LAW AND IF YOU ASK HIM, DO YOU PROTECT HUMAN RIGHTS? THEY SAY YES, OF
HIM, DO YOU PROTECT HUMAN RIGHTS? THEY SAY YES, OF COURSE,
RIGHTS? THEY SAY YES, OF COURSE, WE PROTECT HUMAN RIGHTS.
COURSE, WE PROTECT HUMAN RIGHTS. AND THAT‘S
WE PROTECT HUMAN RIGHTS. AND THAT‘S THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU CAN‘T
AND THAT‘S THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU CAN‘T DO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS
THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU CAN‘T DO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS ALL AROUND THE GLOBE. YOU
DO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS ALL AROUND THE GLOBE. YOU CAN‘T FOLLOW ALL OF THESE LAWS
ALL AROUND THE GLOBE. YOU CAN‘T FOLLOW ALL OF THESE LAWS AND THAT IS, ESPECIALLY TRUE
CAN‘T FOLLOW ALL OF THESE LAWS AND THAT IS, ESPECIALLY TRUE IN RUSSIA WHERE FOR SEVERAL
AND THAT IS, ESPECIALLY TRUE IN RUSSIA WHERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. RUSSIA HAS BEEN
IN RUSSIA WHERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. RUSSIA HAS BEEN BUILDING UP
YEARS NOW. RUSSIA HAS BEEN BUILDING UP WHAT ARE EFFECTIVELY HOSTAGE
BUILDING UP WHAT ARE EFFECTIVELY HOSTAGE LAWS.
WHAT ARE EFFECTIVELY HOSTAGE LAWS. WERE THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO
LAWS. WERE THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FORCE COMPANIES TO BOTH KEEP
WERE THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FORCE COMPANIES TO BOTH KEEP DATA IN THE COUNTRY,
FORCE COMPANIES TO BOTH KEEP DATA IN THE COUNTRY, BUT ALSO TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS
DATA IN THE COUNTRY, BUT ALSO TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS IN THE COUNTRY WHO ARE
BUT ALSO TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS IN THE COUNTRY WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR
IN THE COUNTRY WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR DECISIONS.
RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR DECISIONS. SO THEY CAN PUNISH THEM AND
DECISIONS. SO THEY CAN PUNISH THEM AND PUT THEM IN JAIL IF THEY DON‘T
SO THEY CAN PUNISH THEM AND PUT THEM IN JAIL IF THEY DON‘T LIKE THE DECISIONS THAT ARE
PUT THEM IN JAIL IF THEY DON‘T LIKE THE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE.
LIKE THE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE. AND THEY‘VE ALSO
BEING MADE. AND THEY‘VE ALSO NOW
AND THEY‘VE ALSO NOW MADE A BUNCH OF
NOW MADE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF PROPAGANDA.
MADE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF PROPAGANDA. ACTUALLY ILLEGAL,
DIFFERENT KINDS OF PROPAGANDA. ACTUALLY ILLEGAL, NOT PROPAGANDA. I‘M SORRY.
ACTUALLY ILLEGAL, NOT PROPAGANDA. I‘M SORRY. DISSENT WITHIN RUSSIA,
NOT PROPAGANDA. I‘M SORRY. DISSENT WITHIN RUSSIA, ILLEGAL FOR RUSSIANS TO SAY,
DISSENT WITHIN RUSSIA, ILLEGAL FOR RUSSIANS TO SAY, SO, FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE,
ILLEGAL FOR RUSSIANS TO SAY, SO, FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, RUSSIA HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY
SO, FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, RUSSIA HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY CRACKING DOWN AND IS PUTTING A
RUSSIA HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY CRACKING DOWN AND IS PUTTING A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE
CRACKING DOWN AND IS PUTTING A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE COMPANIES. I RIGHT NOW, THE
LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE COMPANIES. I RIGHT NOW, THE COMPANIES HAVE MADE THE CHOICE
COMPANIES. I RIGHT NOW, THE COMPANIES HAVE MADE THE CHOICE OF, THEY‘RE GOING TO STEP ON
COMPANIES HAVE MADE THE CHOICE OF, THEY‘RE GOING TO STEP ON THE SIDE OF NATO AND
OF, THEY‘RE GOING TO STEP ON THE SIDE OF NATO AND UKRAINE, BUT THAT IS
THE SIDE OF NATO AND UKRAINE, BUT THAT IS AT THE RISK OF THEIR EMPLOYEES
UKRAINE, BUT THAT IS AT THE RISK OF THEIR EMPLOYEES IN THE FAMILIES OF THEIR
AT THE RISK OF THEIR EMPLOYEES IN THE FAMILIES OF THEIR EMPLOYEES, EVEN IF THERE‘S
IN THE FAMILIES OF THEIR EMPLOYEES, EVEN IF THERE‘S EMPLOYEES ARE IN THE UNITED
EMPLOYEES, EVEN IF THERE‘S EMPLOYEES ARE IN THE UNITED STATES,
EMPLOYEES ARE IN THE UNITED STATES, ALEX, STAMOS,
STATES, ALEX, STAMOS, KREBS FAMOUS GROUP. THANK YOU
ALEX, STAMOS, KREBS FAMOUS GROUP. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.