i do not comment
bond specific classified operations
other than to say that
the united states uh... engages
in a number of operations
uh... to go after al qaeda
and their militant allies
other terrorist allies
uh... who would try
to attack the united states
what uh... with this incident makes clear
is that uh... this country has to continue to remain
vigilant
against uh... those who would seek
to attack this country
so this is wearing this is where
area the uh...
justification for all the military spending is mia
that there's a group of tears out there who are still trying to kill us
and there was just that hearings involving his nose
a four-day-old plots
uh... that was based at at the end and
and allegedly this one of the people we killed in the eminent a drum strike
uh... this past week
was involved in this plot as well
so this is a sort of tangled web right on the one hand you have lied that the
defense erica missing were were under threat right if there were under threat
now that we have to respond to plots with responded plots we have to be
waging essentially a covert campaign around the world which we are it's not
just yemen it c_n_n_'s himalaya iraq afghanistan libya pakistan
these the country no or actually having uh... flying jones in in use these
restaurants
so you have on on the one hand it is the four l plot there's the fear mongering
and then that directly relates into cash
they're saying we cannot give up this fifty five billion this twenty billion
is thirty billion this debt two billion because of these this sort of persistent
threat
uh... and we can even step back from where we are where we're at more if you
look at actually by having to spend it seems like we're getting even more
danger to do that we have to keep spending money to protect our south
fifty separate then there's no way to stop it
because it it's it's uh... was it's about it with a feed off of one another
it's a convenient relationship between need
for supposedly
and desire and it just keeps going all the way down because they're saying that
with these bomb strikes
give them for the reason the spend money but if you're not spending the money i
didn't get the bomb threats and that's and that's the whole uh... al-qaeda
approaches we were you guys going to be bombing us with these gone strikes this
is retaliation this isn't starting you know that whole conversation on who
started it
and and
that's a totally different conversation but this is where the pattern there and
this is the pattern and this is global war on terror spending we're still stuck
in this post september eleventh mindset
no people of this is all your second three ninety
no we're stuck in post nine eleven thinking right where the entire
framework of what we're doing in our foreign policy and in our defense
spending
was set up by george w_ bush
and spend continued and and and we can change in name port they no longer use
global war on terror but you see bye-bye technique that is common to discuss was
the democrats right
uh... you see by president obama's unwillingness to really confront
the defense budget big if he doesn't want to go there you doesn't want to
spend a total capital on that now he does all the way anywho i mean don't
understand that were lines is not going to do that is not going to happen
exactly because the minute he decides how i'm gonna cut defense
and one of these bombs that store opening in living in a free society
casey that he hit by a terrorist attack
daddy's gonna be easy because olathe spending well you know we got defense
you know he's a communist you know game of and i was going to have is going to
face the house of representatives that has a
zero patients forty years peter kenyon of new york uh...
club number three talking about how this was
related to the bomb strike and then he goes on afterwards will here that about
american vigilance and all of excellence
there was a a drone attacks that was able to kill uh...
pot behind that made al close-up
are these two things
withdrawn attract ac over the weekend that was playing with successful and
flailing the spot
yes i was told by ah... the white house that they are connected to a part of the
year
same out operation
okay so he was told by the way i guess they weren't they have a meeting those
because the weather stalled he does have the whistle and this is the
major problem in the germans collateral state might very well be of or will you
being bomb-maker who deserve to be
that the that raided the home of the have tell me squashed
bugs black and otherwise store that o'brien with the fantastic pronunciation
like it was great cc mail the shoulder because she's so that she knows five you
have another brass class size
they want to get her travel
hotmail it it's it's it's this
the problem with this drone program is that is a program done in incomplete
secrecy right
so all we know is what the white house told peter king
the reliability of race of the white house still peter king a beating doesn't
tell c_n_n_
i would check i want i want a second source i want to third source
but we don't have it
because it's all the sensitive information done by the c_i_a_ and we
know for a fact
time and time again to see a has got a rock time time again on the drug program
they've got a raw we we've said would kill people and have it or not to
mention the defense secretary who was the head of the c_i_a_'s campaign
and and i don't know that idea it was so at the time and it's funny but it's a
refund and and when you and and
it's sort of makes me think that that shouldn't ever happen again you know i i
don't know that the the
it just seems like it's too close it's it's interesting to to panetta is at
c_i_a_ and then you have the for a former general just trace it back just a
side
that is that defense minister defense of the traces the c_i_a_
so the merging of the pentagon
and detailed it essential tells a_b_c_
is going on a case and that's what the drum program does as well
the joy they disturb it did robert my sense is run by the joint special
operations command and the c_i_a_
it's the pentagon's here working hand-in-hand
and the question is do we trust
the information you may be they got this guy and maybe a day for the plot
but what about the thirty forty
fifty sixty seventy other times were doing his trust race of people we don't
know who were hitting yet we know worked were regularly targeted killing people
under the age of eighteen
that's been confirmed over a hundred kids on the eighteen deaths
so what's the more packed with that that play here near and what i mean again we
and we review what we talk about a little bit before the show but
wicked if the moral calculus is war there is another side to it to which it
we have one of the israeli calculus of moral calculus of war but if you're
going to go there is this the most surgical way of doing it is this the way
of doing it that isn't you know rather than carpet bombing and tire cities and
towns this is
supposedly an advancement
that's essentially the defense anything i get into this on twitter with a lot of
uh... my progressive friends in the
and this is the defense again which is well president bomb is doing something
ads better than invading iraq it's better than invading afghanistan doing
his job search
that's that's true right
braden rather know repeating one the most horrible for policy mistakes in
history by creating a rack craft as it again ideas it's better just to do serve
remote controlled rosters that being said is it moral right and and what i
said before and i think it's true i think it's morally it's a morally
indefensible program at ninety eight percent of the time uh... and it's
perhaps uh... you put two but it's politically defensible right because no
one had really cares that these people are being new blood on a regular basis
it's assist bases enemy it seems like we're doing good thing
did democrats love it if justice the joy she polls really well
uh... so it's a it's a win across the board
until you get to the blow back point where you killed so many innocent people
that in fact you just prolonging this costly gratifying to intercept will that
point exist if the didn't exist in iraq where hundreds of thousands of iraqis we
never saw
dot but we know they're dead
and there wasn't any outrage here i mean it was all i think we should in the war
but more reelected i and then will still say wait a minute that idea
and even though he did a legally and he may be a war criminal he started this
war
at a certain point the sale
orchestra that these people couldn't care about a hundred thousand having an
affair about a hundred right and i and i would even talking outside with the
below back in terms of like other terrorists coming over here because of
the world beginning again to really a zzzz best great plan
d american
public in general xs
top party is not what foreigners were killing this we have right that's not
but if you're headed for a country
day in the drug program is not a secret if you are in the end of the jurors are
seated if you are in fact savage on programs are sacred when he have jones
flying over your head in your cousins being killed every once in awhile
uh... it happens in your backyard that it's very much not a seeker and i think
that's what we
should it at least we're having this debate now in in a witty and river and
the rabbits they have because we've we've at journalists that civil
liberties groups a_c_l_u_
pushed this debate out of the shadows human rights groups
editing and so we're actually having this discussion and more information we
would agree with him