>>> AT LEAST 44 STATES, ALONG WITH THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA,
ARE NOW REFUSE TO GO PROVIDE CERTAIN VOTER INFORMATION TO
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S VOTER INTEGRITY COMMISSION.
THAT COMMISSION SENT A LETTER TO ALL 50 STATES AND DC, REQUESTING
INFORMATION THAT INCLUDES THE LAST FOUR DIGITS OF SOCIAL
SECURITY NUMBERS, PARTY AFFILIATION AND VOTING DATA,
GOING BACK TO 2006. THE PRESIDENT FIRING BACK --
FIRST OF ALL, CALLING THE COMMISSION A VOTER FRAUD
COMMISSION, BUT THEN WENT ON TO ASK WHAT THE STATES ARE HIDING.
I'M JOINED BY ONE OF THOSE REFUSE TO GO TURN OVER
INFORMATION. CALIFORNIA'S SECRETARY OF STATE,
ALEX PADILLA. MR. SECRETARY, WELCOME TO YOU,
SIR. >> THANK YOU, CRAIG.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME. >> FIRST OF ALL, WHY ARE YOU AND
THESE OTHER 44 OTHER SECRETARIES OF STATE REFUSING TO GIVE OUT
THIS INFORMATION? >> WELL, IT'S PRETTY INDICATIVE,
ISN'T IT, THAT 44 STATES HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS REQUEST.
BOTH DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN. SO LET ME TELL YOU WHY THE
REQUEST IS SO PROBLEMATIC. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A HUGE
OVERREACH. AN INVASION OF PRIVACY, FRANKLY,
TO REQUEST NOT JUST VOTER NAMES BURKS LET'S SAY PARTY
AFFILIATION. I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHY THE
PRESIDENT NEEDS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.
BUT DATES OF BIRTH. LAST FOUR OF YOUR SOCIAL
SECURITY CARD. THAT ALONE MAKES IT A DREAM FOR
HACKERS IN THE IDENTITY THEFT BUSINESS.
BUT MILITARY HISTORY. ON AND ON AND ON.
IT'S AN INVASION OF PRIVACY. THEY HAVE DONE IT IN A WAY WHERE
IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO CYBER SECURITY SENSE.
YOU WANT TO DO VLADIMIR PUTIN A FAVOR?
GET ALL OF THIS DATA FROM VOTERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, UPLOAD IT ON
TO THE INTERNET IN ONE UNSECURE LOCATION.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? AND THIRD, LET'S JUST
ACKNOWLEDGE THE COMMISSION FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS.
IT'S NOT A VOTER FRAUD COMMISSION.
THE COMMISSION ITSELF IS A FRAUD.
LOOK WHO THEY HAVE PUT IN CHARGE.
PEOPLE WITH A LONG DOCUMENTED HISTORY OF ADVANCING VOTER
SUPPRESSION POLICIES. IF THEY WANT TO SUPPRESS TO
VOTE, THEN THIS IS CLEARLY THE WAY TO GO ABOUT IT.
>> WHAT KIND OF POLICIES ARE YOU REFERRING TO SPECIFICALLY?
>> WELL, YOU LOOK AT NOT JUST THE COMMISSION BEING CHAIRED BY
A VICE PRESIDENT PENCE, BUT THE CO CHAIR.
THE LETTER REQUESTING THIS DATA CAME NOT FROM THE VICE
PRESIDENT, BUT FROM SECRETARY KRIS KOBACH OF KANSAS, SOMEONE
WITH WITH A LONG HISTORY OF ANTI IMMIGRANT POLICIES BOTH INSIDE
KANSAS AND DISCRIMINATION POLICIES.
THE HANDS OF SOMEONE WITH THAT KIND OF TRACK RECORD?
THAT TOO IS TELLING TO WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S TRUE AGENDA IS.
ALL BECAUSE HE CAN'T GET HIS HEAD AROUND -- HIS EGO CAN'T GET
HIS HEAD AROUND HAVING LOST A NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL REALLY ABOUT.
AND SOMEHOW HE NEEDS AN EXCUSE, SO HE DRUMS UP THIS LIE OF 4 TO
5 MILLION ILLEGAL VOTES BEING CAST.
GIVE ME A BREAK. >> THE SECRETARY OF STATE IN
MISSOURI, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, HAS SAID THAT HE WOULD COMPLY
WITH THE REQUEST FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
THIS IS WHAT HE SAID. TAKE A LISTEN.
>> FIRST AND FOREMOST, THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT HAS
ACTUALLY BEEN ASKED FOR IF THEY STIPULATE THAT THEY ONLY WANT
THIS PUBLIC INFORMATION THAT THE STATES HAVE.
>> THAT REQUEST, AGAIN, COMING FROM THE COMMISSION ITSELF.
SO IF THAT'S TRUE, IF THIS INFORMATION IS PUBLICLY
AVAILABLE, WHY NOT COMPLY? >> WELL, THAT'S NOT EXACTLY
TRUE. FIRST OF ALL, OVER THE LAST
SEVERAL DAYS, WE HAVE RELEARNEL SOME CIVICS LESSONS IN THINGS
LIKE ELECTIONS ARE CONDUCTED BY STATES.
THAT'S WITHIN THE UNITED STATES' CONSTITUTION.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN'T RUN ELECTIONS.
IT'S STATES. AND EACH STATE HAS SLIGHTLY
DIFFERENT RULES AND POLICIES FOR WHEN AND HOW TO SHARE THAT VOTER
REGISTRATION DATABASE. OR SOME INFORMATION ABOUT
VOTERS. WHAT'S ALLOWED, WHAT'S NOT
ALLOWED AND FOR WHAT PURPOSES? I KNOW IN CALIFORNIA, WE DO NOT
CONSIDER THE VOTER FILE PUBLIC INFORMATION.
IT IS AVAILABLE TO POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS, FOR CAMPAIGN
PURPOSES. IT'S AVAILABLE TO SCHOLARS AND
RESEARCHERS, ET CETERA. BUT IN NO STATE THAT I'M AWARE
OF IS IT JUST CARTE BLANCHE, HERE YOU GO, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT,
JUST BECAUSE YOU ASKED. AND WHO IS DOING THE ASKING?
IT'S NOT A DEPARTMENT OR AGENCY OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IT'S
AN ADVISORY COMMISSION NOT AUTHORIZED BY THE UNITED STATES
CONGRESS. IT'S AN ADVISORY COMMISSION THAT
HAS YET TO MEET. THEY HAVEN'T EVEN ESTABLISHED
POLICIES FOR HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GO ABOUT THEIR WORK.
ARE THEY GOING TO BE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS OR DOING IT IN A
TRANSPARENT FASHION? WE DON'T KNOW.
WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO USE THIS INFORMATION FOR?
WE DON'T KNOW. SO I SIDE ON PROTECTING THE
PRIVACY AND SECURITY OF CALIFORNIA VOTERS AND THEIR
PERSONAL INFORMATION. WE'RE NOT GOING TO LEGITIMIZE
THIS COMMISSION BY COOPERATING