ALL GREAT POINTS AS WE BEGIN OUR
FALLBACK.
SALT-N-PEPA, IT’S YOUR FIRST
TIME HERE BUT WE CAN GO IN ANY
DIRECTION.
PEPA, WHAT’S ON YOUR MIND,
WHAT’S ON YOUR LIST?
>> WELL, I’M THINKING, YOU KNOW,
IT’S ABOUT THE STORY OF THE
MOTHER AND DAUGHTER RIGGING
VOTES SO HER DAUGHTER WOULD
BECOME THE HOMECOMING QUEEN.
I THINK THEY NEED TO FALL BACK,
YOU KNOW.
I THINK THAT IT’S TOTALLY, YOU
KNOW, UNFAIR.
AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME
ACTUALLY.
YOU KNOW, THE DAUGHTER HAS
ACCESSED THE MOTHER’S ACCOUNT,
PASSWORD, AND I THINK THAT’S,
YOU KNOW, OTHER STUDENTS, AND I
THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT’S A
BLATANT VIOLATION OF PRIVACY AND
AS A PRINCIPAL, AS AN EDUCATOR,
YOU KNOW, I THINK SHE WAS
SUPPOSED TO SET AN EXAMPLE OF
JUSTICE AND, YOU KNOW, BEING
FAIR AND TEACHING ALL OF THESE
HOW TO BE FAIR.
AND TO GIVE YOU AN EVEN BETTER EXAMPLE HOW IT’S IMPORTANT
EXAMPLE HOW IT’S IMPORTANT
BECAUSE SALT-N-PEPA, WE JUST HAD
LIFETIME -- NUMBER ONE.
MY DAUGHTER HAD TO READ FOR THE
LEADING ROLE THAT SHE WANTED TO
TRY OUT FOR, SHE HAD TO
AUDITION.
AS EXECUTIVE PRODUCER, I STILL
ALLOWED HER TO AUDITION, SHOWED
HER THE VALUE OF WORKING HARD.
YOU STILL HAVE TO PROVE YOURSELF
AND NOT CHEAT YOUR WAY THROUGH
OR BECAUSE I’M THE EXECUTIVE
PRODUCER I’M GOING TO PUT YOU UP
THERE.
NO, YOU HAVE TO WORK AND SHOW
AND AUDITION FOR THE ROLE.
SHE DIDN’T GET THE ROLE BUT SHE
WAS IN THE MOVIE AND THERE IT
GOES TO SHOW YOU THAT, YOU
KNOW --
>> LET ME BRING IN SALT INTO
THIS BECAUSE IT IS ALSO THIS
CULTURE OF CHEATING AND THE IDEA
THAT THAT IS WHAT’S BEING HANDED
DOWN.
WE SAW THAT OF COURSE IN THE
WIDER CHEATING SCANDAL WHICH HAD
ACTUAL CHARGES.
THIS ONE WE’LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS,
HOMECOMING QUEEN, BUT THE WIDER
IDEA THAT THAT PARENT IS
INSTILLING.
SO ANY COMMENT ON THAT OR WHAT’S
ON YOUR FALLBACK LIST.
>> YOU KNOW THIS SOCIETY WITH
YOUNG PEOPLE I’M SEEING MORE AND
MORE THAT SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT
AND IT HAS TO DO WITH PARENTS.
ME AS A MOM I HAVE CHALLENGES
WITH THAT MYSELF.
WHAT’S TOO MUCH GIVING MY SON,
WHAT AM I DOING TO ALLOW HIM TO
THINK HE CAN GET AWAY WITH,
THERE’S A CONSTANT BATTLE OF
BALANCE.
BUT THEN THERE’S BLATANT
DISRESPECT OF OTHER PEOPLE AND
TEACHING YOUR CHILDREN THAT
LITERAL CHEATING IS THE WAY TO
GET AHEAD.
MY FALLBACK IS THE BROADCASTER
WHO BLAMED HIS RACIST RANT ON
HIS SUGAR LEVELS SPIKING, WHICH
WAS HILARIOUS TO ME, WITH THE
FEMALES.
HE WENT ON A RANT, HE SPOKE FROM
HIS HEART, HE SAID WHAT HE
REALLY THINKS AND THEN HE SAID
IT WAS A MEDICAL REASONS, LIKE
ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU DEVELOP
THIS, YOU KNOW, SITUATION WHERE
YOU JUST START SAYING RACIST
COMMENTS BECAUSE YOUR BLOOD
SUGAR SPIKED.
I LOOK AT THESE SITUATIONS AS AN
EXAMPLE OVER AND OVER AND OVER
OF PEOPLE BEING EXPOSED, IT NOT
BEING TOLERATED ANYMORE, AND
THAT WE SHOULD WHEN WE MAKE A
MISTAKE, WHEN WE MESS UP, OWN
IT, YOU KNOW, HOLD OURSELVES
ACCOUNTABLE, EDUCATE OURSELVES,
AND JUST APOLOGIZE AND MEAN IT
AND LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE.
SO THAT WAS HILARIOUS TO ME.
>> YEAH, I MEAN HE’S GOT TO OWN
THAT.
TO QUOTE ONE OF YOUR SONGS, THAT
WOULD DEFINITELY BE WORSE THAN
BABBLING ON THE MIC, THAT SHOULD
NEVER BE ON THE MIC, FULL STOP.
BUT I WANT TO ASK AS WE’RE
GETTING NEAR THE END OF OUR HOUR
TO SALT-N-PEPA AND THEN ANY
THOUGHTS NICOLLE MAY HAVE, YOU
WERE SUCH TRAIL BLAZERS IN
HIP-HOP, AND SO MANY OF THOSE
SONGS HOLD UP FOR EMPOWERMENT,
FOR FEMALE EMPOWERMENT, FOR SEX
EDUCATION, FOR REALLY BEING
BLUNT AND CLEAR.
I’M JUST CURIOUS DO YOU FEEL
LIKE TO SOME DEGREE THE NEW
GENERATION HAS FOLLOWED YOUR
LEAD?
DO YOU FEEL LIKE I’M SAYING IT,
NOT YOU, THAT YOU WERE RIGHT A
LONG TIME AGO THAT PEOPLE ARE
CATCHING UP?
I’M JUST CURIOUS.
FIRST TO SALT AND THEN PEPA.
>> PEOPLE DEFINITELY SAY
SALT-N-PEPA, WE PIONEERED, WE
KICKED DOWN DOORS, WE WERE
OUTSPOKEN.
WE DID THE SONG "LET’S TALK
ABOUT SEX."
FOR US IT WAS MORE OF A VIDEO
AND SONG INFORMING SAYING THAT
IT’S OKAY TO HAVE THE
CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW.
WE ALSO DID THE PSA WITH PETER
JENNINGS AND TURNED "LET’S TALK
ABOUT SEX" TO "LET’S TALK ABOUT
AIDS."
WE DARED THE RADIO TO PLAY IT.
THAT WAS PUSHING THE ENVELOPE TO
PUSH IT, SO TO SPEAK.
YEAH, WE DO FEEL LIKE WE OPENED
UP DOORS FOR WOMEN IN SO MANY
WAYS.
WHEN WE WERE COMING UP THERE
WERE SO MANY DIFFERENT VOICES
FROM LATIFA, MC LIGHT AND MISSY
ELLIOTT AND LAURYN HILL WAS THE