MIDTERMS?
IT MEANS THE PROMPTER IS WAY TOO
FAR AWAY FROM ME.
FOX NEWS'S JUAN WILLIAMS IS THE
CO-HOST OF "THE FIVE."
HE AUTHOR OF "WHAT THE HELL DO
YOU HAVE TO LOSE."
TRUMP'S WAR ON CIVIL RIGHTS.
I ALWAYS ASK QUESTIONS, WHAT
ALWAYS WANT YOU, WHAT IS IT LIKE
TO SIT THERE ON "THE FIVE" AND
EVERYBODY GANGING UP ON YOU, AND
FENDING EVERYBODY OFF?
>> YOU'VE BEEN THERE ON
"THE FIVE."
FOR ME IT'S A THRILL, YOU'RE IN
THE POSITION OF HAVING TO
COUNTER FOUR PEOPLE.
IF IT WAS SWORDPLAY, YOU EVER
SEEN THE MOVIES?
HOW DID HE DO THAT?
BUT I DO FIND THAT TO ME, IF I'M
NOT EQUIPPED, IF I'M NOT
PREPARED, I GET SLADE.
MELISSA: YEAH.
WHAT IS IT LIKE SELLING
ANTI-TRUMP BOOK RIGHT NOW.
PEOPLE OUTSIDE LOVE IT.
DOES IT WORK ON FOX?
YOU GET A LOT OF PR GET TO BE ON
OTHER NETWORKS?
>> FOR THE MOST PART IT IS
INTERESTING, OTHER NETWORKS
DON'T WANT FOX PEOPLE IN
GENERAL.
MELISSA: RIGHT.
>> SO THAT IS NOT AS OPEN I
WOULD LIKE.
I THINK I WILL GET TO DO ABC
LATER THIS MONTH, SUNDAY SHOW,
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT REALLY TALKING TO THE FOX
AUDIENCE HAS BEEN INTERESTING
FOR ME BECAUSE WHILE THEY DON'T
WANT MUCH CRITICISM OF TRUMP I
THINK EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTRY
IS AWARE THAT THERE IS AN
INCREASING RACIAL DIVIDE IN THE
TRUMP ERA.
I MEAN THE POLLS ARE PRETTY
CLEAR.
LIKE 2/3 OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
THINK RACE RELATIONS ARE WORSE
TODAY.
AND THEY DON'T APPROVE OF
TRUMP'S HANDLING OF RACE.
SO PEOPLE ARE CURIOUS ABOUT
EXACTLY WHAT IS THIS ABOUT?
AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT IS
CURIOSITY ABOUT GOOD PEOPLE,
GOOD REPUBLICANS WHO I THINK
SOMETIMES CLOSE THEIR EYES TO
THE RACIAL ISSUES BECAUSE THEY
ARE SUCH TRUMP FANS.
MELISSA: SO YOU THINK IT IS
WORSE FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN
SPITE OF THE FACT THAT
AFRICAN-AMERICAN UNEMPLOYMENT IS
DOWN, THAT DURING THE LAST EIGHT
YEARS THE DIVIDE BETWEEN RICH
AND POOR IN THE LAST
ADMINISTRATION WAS SO
DRAMATICALLY EXACERBATED?
THESE ECONOMIC FACTORS WE WOULD
POINT TO THAT WOULD MAKE IT SEEM
LIKE IT IS BETTER FOR BLACK
AMERICA AND YOU SAY IT IS WORSE?
>> NO, IN FACT DONALD TRUMP
WHENEVER HE SAYS SOMETHING
OUTRAGEOUS AND OFTEN TIMES GET
CAUGHT UP IN HIS RHETORIC,
CALLING OMAROSA A DOG, SAYING
NFL PLAYERS ARE SOBs OR
REPRESENTATIVE MAXINE WATERSES
IS HIS CRITICS EXTRAORDINARILY
LOW I.Q. BECAUSE IT HAS RACIAL
BACKDROP TO IT, STEREOTYPES AN
INSULTS.
THE TRUMP REPORTERS COME BACK,
ESPECIALLY PRESIDENT TRUMP, LOOK
AT RECORD LOW BLACK
UNEMPLOYMENT.
TWO THINGS ON THIS, MELISSA.
ONE IS OBVIOUSLY MOST OF THE
DECLINE IN BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT
TOOK PLACE UNDER PRESIDENT
OBAMA.
ONLY DOWN ABOUT A POINT UNDER
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
THE SECOND THING, BLACK
UNEMPLOYMENT IS STILL TWICE WHAT
WHITE UNEMPLOYMENT IS IN THE
COUNTRY THIS IS A IMPORTANT PART
OF THE BOOK, WHAT THE HELL DO
YOU HAVE TO LOSE, LOOK IN
POLICIES IN TERMS OF SUPPORTING
BLACK ENTREPRENEURSHIP,
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, YOU SEE
THAT THE PRESIDENT IS PULLING
AWAY FROM THOSE ISSUES.
TIME AND AGAIN, IT COULD BE
VOTER SUPPRESSION, PULLING AWAY
FROM ECONOMIC SUPPORT.
THESE THINGS ARE WHAT IS, I
THINK CONTRIBUTING TO THE RACIAL
DIVIDE IN THIS COUNTRY.
MELISSA: THE FLIP SIDE OF THE
COIN IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS STYLE
OVER SUBSTANCE.
THAT YOU'RE FOCUSING ON HIS
WORDS BUT NOT ON THE OUTCOME OF
WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING.
YOU KNOW CALL AS LOT OF PEOPLE
LOW I.Q.
IT IS NOT A BLACK THING OR WHITE
THING, IT IS HIS CRITICS.
HE HAMMERS PEOPLE WHO ARE
AGAINST HIM, REGARDLESS OF RACE.
SAID TERRIBLE THINGS ABOUT JEFF
FLAKE.
>> I THINK HE SAID TERRIBLE
THINGS ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE.
JUST GO ASK TED CRUZ WHO HE WILL
NOT HAVE TO GO CAMPAIGN FOR.
THE THING OBVIOUSLY THERE IS
SPECIFIC RESONANCE, IF YOU'RE
TALKING IN THIS COUNTRY, A
COUNTRY WHERE WE HAD SLAVERY,
LEGAL SEGREGATION AND THE REST,
BLACKS HAVING LOW I.Q., OR
BLACKS SOMEHOW BEING SOBs?
I THINK THAT IS, AGAIN IT IS
OFFENSIVE, IT IS DIVISIVE.
WHEN HE SAID THIS BUSINESS,
WHICH IS THE TITLE OF THE BOOK,
WHAT THE HELL DO YOU HAVE TO
LOSE, THE SUGGESTION IS
CONDESCENDING.
YOU GUYS HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.
IT IS WORSE TO LIVE IN A BLACK
NEIGHBORHOOD THAN TO LIVE IN
AFGHANISTAN.
MELISSA: IT IS INTERESTING WHAT
HE ACTUALLY WAS TALKING ABOUT
THE DEMOCRATIC CITIES THAT HAVE
BEEN CONTROLLED BY THE
DEMOCRATS, THE SITUATION HAS
GOTTEN TO BE SO TERRIBLE.
YOU LOOK AT A PLACE LIKE CHICAGO
WHERE PEOPLE ARE BEING GUNNED
DOWN ALL THE TIME AND HE SAYING
DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT SERVED YOU,
YOU SHOULD TRY SOMETHING ELSE
AFTER YEARS OF --
>> THIS IS CONTRADICTORY BECAUSE
ON OTHER HAND HE SAYING THINGS
HAVE GOTTEN BETTER, LOW
UNEMPLOYMENT.
MELISSA: UNDER HIM.
>> NOT UNHIM.
HERE IS THE THING, HE IGNORES
THIS.
HE FOCUSES ON LIKE 20% OF BLACK
AMERICA REMAINS IN POVERTY.
DISPROPORTIONATELY, A LOT OF
YOUNG PEOPLE, PEOPLE CHILDREN TO
SINGLE PARENTS.
40% EARNINGS 35 TO 100.
ANOTHER 40% 100 AND 200.
MELISSA: THEY'RE YELLING IF IN
MY EAR WE'RE ABOUT TO GO TO
BLACK.
I'M GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE.
>> THANKS, MELISSA.