FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR.
ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU.
THANKS FOR JOINING US.
>> GOOD MORNING, MARIA.
MARIA: WE'RE EXPECTING
IMPEACHMENT VOTE ON WEDNESDAY.
WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING THE WEEK
AHEAD AND TELL ME ABOUT THE
REACTION YOU'RE SEEING FROM THE
I.G. REPORT?
>> YEAH.
AS YOU SAID THE VOTE WILL BE ON
WEDNESDAY, DESPITE WHAT A
DEMOCRATIC SCHOLAR CALLED THE
FASTEST, THINNEST, WEAKEST
IMPEACHMENT IN U.S. HISTORY.
THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE
GOING.
THE REAL QUESTION IS, HOW BIG
WILL THE JAILBREAK BE BY THE
DEMOCRATS.
WE'VE ALREADY SEEN ONE DEMOCRAT
APPARENTLY SWITCHING PARTIES
OVER IT.
ANOTHER SAYING HE WILL VOTE
AGAINST IT.
SO REALLY THE QUESTION IS, HOW
MANY MORE BEFORE WEDNESDAY'S
VOTE.
THE REASON FOR THAT, MARIA IS,
BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS MADE THE
MISTAKE STAKING THE CREDIBILITY
OF ALL THIS ON ADAM SCHIFF, THE
PERSON THAT THEY PUT IN CHARGE
OF THIS INVESTIGATION, TURNS OUT
IS THE ONE THAT HELPED START IT
BY MEETING WITH A PERSON WHO
WALKED OUT OF ADAM SCHIFF'S
OFFICE AND BECAME THE
WHISTLEBLOWER.
AT THE VERY SAME TIME THAT IS
HAPPENING, AS YOU MENTIONED, NOW
THERE IS AN INSPECTOR GENERAL
REPORT THAT COMES OUT AND SAYS
DURING THE LAST IMPEACHMENT
HOAX, THE TRUMP RUSSIA ONE, ADAM
SCHIFF REPEATEDLY MADE FALSE
STATEMENTS TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE ABOUT THE FBI'S ACTIONS.
SO I THINK YOU KNOW, THAT IS
WHAT'S HAPPENING.
THAT'S WHY THE DEMOCRATS HAVE
BEEN RUSHING TO KEEP THIS FROM
UNRAVELING AND KEEP THEIR FOLKS
IN LINE.
THEY'RE HAVING A REALLY HARD
TIME TO DO THAT.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO BANK MY
POLITICAL FUTURE ON ADAM
SCHIFF'S CREDIBILITY BUT THEY
MADE THAT MISTAKE.
MARIA: I MEAN, GOING BACK TO THE
IG REPORT, YOU KNOW, ADAM SCHIFF
WAS CERTAINLY OUT AND ABOUT A
LOT THROUGHOUT THE LAST THREE
YEARS SAYING THERE IS COLLUSION
IN PLAIN SIGHT.
AND NOW WE GET THE I.G. REPORT.
WE ACTUALLY SEE THE MISCONDUCT
AND WHAT THEY CALLED, ERRORS,
FRAUD, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL
IT, WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO
WHAT YOU LEARNED FROM MICHAEL
WHO ARE WITH IT?
>> WELL, WASN'T JUST ADAM SCHIFF
WAS OUT AND ABOUT, HE PUT OUT A
REPORT SAYS THERE WAS NO FISA
ABUSE BY THE FBI.
THAT WAS FALSE.
HE SAID THAT THE FBI DIDN'T FAIL
TO TURN OVER EXCULPATORY
INFORMATION.
THAT WAS FALSE.
HE SAID THAT THE STEELE DOSSIER
WAS NOT A CENTRAL PART OF THE
FISA APPLICATIONS AGAINST CARTER
PAGE.
THAT WAS FALSE.
THE INSPECTOR GENERAL'S REPORT,
FIND NATIONAL THERE DETAIL ALL
OF THAT.
IT IS INDICTMENT THAT THE THINGS
THAT ADAM SCHIFF WAS SAYING.
IT WAS AN INDICTMENT OF JIM
COMEY'S LEADERSHIP AT THE FBI.
THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAY OUT THERE,
MARIA, WHAT THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL'S FINDINGS CLEARLY
DELINEATE, EVEN IF YOU CONCEDE,
AND I DON'T, EVEN IF YOU CONCEDE
THERE WAS A PREDICATE TO START
THIS, THERE WAS NO PREDICATE TO
CONTINUE A COUNTERINTELLIGENCE
INVESTIGATION AGAINST THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
THEY HAD TO DO IT BY MAKING
THOSE FALSE REPRESENTATIONS TO
THE FISA COURT.
MARIA: YEAH.
WE'LL SPEAK TO DEVIN NUNEZ
SHORTLY OF COURSE.
YOU REFERRED TO THE NUNES MEMO
BACK IN 2018, FEBRUARY OF 18,
WHERE HE WROTE OUT ALL OF THE
MISCONDUCT THAT TOOK PLACE BY
THAT CABAL OF PEOPLE.
THEN SCHIFF CAME OUT WITH THAT
CORRECTING THE RECORD MEMO WHICH
WE KNOW NOW WAS WRONG, JUST
FLAT-OUT WRONG.
YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THE
WRONGDOING.
ONE OF THEM WE KNOW FROM THE
MICHAEL HOROWITZ REPORT WAS
ALTERING OF A DOCUMENT BY A FBI
LAWYER.
TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
WHERE ARE YOU EXPECT
ACCOUNTABILITY, CONGRESSMAN?
>> WELL, AS THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL'S FINDINGS OUTLINE, WHAT
ARE REFERRED TO AS ERRORS AND
OMISSIONS ARE FALSE STATEMENTS,
MISREPRESENTATIONS, DESTRUCTION
OR ALTER AGES OF DOCUMENTARY
EVIDENCE.
WHAT YOU HAVE ARE FBI LAWYERS
LITERALLY CHANGING EVIDENCE TO
MAKE FALSE REPRESENTATIONS TO
THE COURT TO CONTINUE THIS
COUNTER INTELLIGENCE
INVESTIGATION AGAINST THE
PRESIDENT.
SO YOU KNOW, IT DETAILS -- NOW
EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO A
PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE.
DEMOCRAT NEVER WANT TO GIVE ONE
TO DONALD TRUMP BUT THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL'S FINDINGS
REALLY OUTLINE WHAT IS CRIMINAL
ACTIVITY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FBI LAWYERS
WHO ARE DEPRIVING FOLKS LIKE
CARTER PAGE OF THEIR CIVIL
RIGHTS UNDER COLOR OF LAW.
TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE.
TAKING DOCUMENTS AND MAKING THEM
SAY THE OPPOSITE WHAT THEY
REALLY REPRESENT AND CERTIFYING
THAT TO THE COURT.
SO YOU KNOW, REALLY TERRIBLE,
AGAIN AN INDICTMENT OF JIM
COMEY'S LEADERSHIP AT THE FBI
AND OF THE THINGS THAT THE
DEMOCRATS SAID, AGAIN, MOST
IMPORTANT POINT, TO CONTINUE A
COUNTER INTELLIGENCE
INVESTIGATION AGAINST A SITTING
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
WHEN THERE WAS NO PROBABLE CAUSE
TO CONTINUE IT.
THAT THEY STARTED BY MAKING
SEVEN ERRORS AND OMISSIONS THAT
WERE MISREPRESENTATIONS,
ALTERATIONS OF EVIDENCE, THEN
ADDED 10 MORE TO CONTINUE IT
ALONG THE WAY.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN REALLY
APPRECIATE THE DAMAGE THAT WAS
DONE TO THE FBI DURING JIM
COMEY'S TENURE THERE.
MARIA: ARE YOU SAYING THERE WAS
CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AGAINST CARTER
PAGE AND AGAINST A SITTING
PRESIDENT?
>> CERTAINLY, I WOULD LOVE TO BE
CARTER PAGE'S LAWYER.
HIS CIVIL RIGHT AS ALLEGED, IN
THE FINDINGS BY INSPECTOR
GENERAL HOROWITZ, VERY CLEARLY
DELINEATE THAT.
BUT THERE WERE ACTIONS TAKEN BY
INDIVIDUALS AT THE FBI TO
CONTINUE A COUNTERINTELLIGENCE
INVESTIGATION AGAINST A SITTING
PRESIDENT, AGAINST HIS CAMPAIGN.
AGAINST HIS PRESIDENCY.
YOU KNOW, SO THESE ARE THINGS
THAT, FINDINGS MADE BY INSPECTOR
GENERAL HOROWITZ I WOULD NOW
EXPECT JOHN DURHAM TO LOOK AT
FROM A CRIMINAL STANDPOINT.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT ANYONE, I'M
NOT MAKING ALLEGATIONS THAT
ANYONE HAS SHOULD BE CONVICTED.
THESE ARE ALLEGATIONS, EVERYONE
IS ENTITLED TO A PRESUMPTION OF
INNOCENCE BUT DO I THINK THERE
IS ACTIVITY DETAILED IN THIS,
THAT SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED AND
PROSECUTED?
ABSOLUTELY.
TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE,
DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE.
MARIA: COULD PEOPLE GO TO JAIL
OVER THIS?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
WHAT WOULD AN AGGRESSIVE
PROSECUTOR DO WITH THIS IF THE
FOLKS INVOLVED WERE GEORGE
PAPDOPOULUS OR MICHAEL FLYNN?
THE FINDINGS OF FACT MADE BY THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL HERE, YOU
KNOW, CERTAINLY DETAIL POTENTIAL
CRIMINAL ACTIVITY WHICH WOULD
SEND PEOPLE AWAY FOR A LONG
PERIOD OF TIME.
MARIA: WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TALK
WITH GEORGE PAPDOPOULUS COMING
UP.
SO HE CAN TELL US EXACTLY SOME
OF THE CONVERSATIONS HE HAD
WHICH ARE NOW EXCULPATORY
EVIDENCE WHICH WERE NOT GIVEN TO
THE FISA COURT.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT WHEN THE
INVESTIGATION ACTUALLY STARTED
BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW THE FBI
TELLS US THAT THE INVESTIGATION,
THE COUNTERINTEL INVESTIGATION
BEGAN IN JULY OF 16 BUT THERE
WERE INFORMANTS RUNNING INTO
CAMPAIGN PEOPLE AS EARLY AS
MARCH OF' 16.
WE'LL SPEAK TO MICHAEL MUKASEY
COMING UP.
CONGRESSMAN, GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MARIA.
MARIA: REACTING TO THE FORMER
INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORT IS
MICHAEL MUKASEY.
HE IS NEXT.