GRAMMY WINNING MUSICIAN. WE’LL GET INTO IT.
I BEGIN WITH SOMETHING YOU DON’T
HEAR EVERY DAY BECAUSE YOU
ALMOST NEVER HEAR IT.
THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE UNITED
STATES DECLARING THIS COUNTRY IS
NOW IN A, QUOTE, CONSTITUTIONAL
CRISIS.
CRISIS. SPEAKER PELOSI SAYING WE ARE NOW
AT THAT POINT BECAUSE OF THE WAY
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS
DEALING WITH THE CRIMINAL
EVIDENCE AGAINST THE PRESIDENT
CONTAINED IN THE MUELLER REPORT.
TRUMP AS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD,
DEMANDING ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE IN
HIS INNER CIRCLE, SIMPLY DEFYING
THE SUBPOENAS AND THE REQUEST
FOR INFORMATION AND EVIDENCE.
SPEAKER PELOSI SAYS, THIS IS NOT
THE END.
THE END. THIS CONTEMPT VOTE IN
WASHINGTON.
WASHINGTON. SHE SAID THEY’RE PREPARED TO
HOLD OTHER OFFICIALS IN
CONTEMPT.
CONTEMPT. WHEN YOU GO DOWN THE ORG CHART,
THE LESS IMPORTANT PEOPLE ARE
WAY MORE LIKELY TO END UP IN A
REAL JAIL CELL IF THEY HAVE
LEGITIMATE CONTEMPT PROCEEDINGS
AGAINST THEM.
AGAINST THEM. DONALD TRUMP TRYING TO STOP
MUELLER FROM OF COURSE, BREAKING
HIS SILENCE.
HIS SILENCE. AND THIS IS INTERESTING.
THE PRESIDENT GOING PRETTY
OFFSCRIPT IN SOMETHING THAT WAS
BILLED AS MEDICAL BILLING.
TRUMP MAKING A CONFLICTING CASE
ABOUT WHY HE DIDN’T OBSTRUCT
JUSTICE.
JUSTICE. >> AT THE END OF THE TESTIMONY,
NO COLLUSION, NO COLLUSION AND
ESSENTIALLY NO OBSTRUCTION.
PEOPLE SAY HOW CAN YOU OBSTRUCT
WHEN THERE WAS NO CRIME?
WHEN THERE WAS NO COLLUSION?
HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY OBSTRUCT?
IT’S WORSE THAN THAT.
IT’S NOT ONLY WAS THERE NO CRIME
BUT THE CRIME WAS COMMITTED ON
THE OTHER SIDE.
SO WE’RE PROTECTING AGAINST THE
CRIME COMMIT ON THE OTHER SIDE.
>> ESSENTIALLY NO OBSTRUCTION.
WHEN YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT A
FELONY, IT COULD BE OBSTRUCTION,
IT COULD BE GRAND LARCENY, A
VIOLENT FELONY, YOU DON’T REALLY
WANT TO BE USING THE QUALIFIER,
ESSENTIALLY, TO SAY WHY YOU
DIDN’T DO IT.
THIS MAY BE A MISTAKE, A TELL, A
MOVING OF THE GOALPOST.
WHATEVER IT IS THOUGH.
THE PRESIDENT IS CLEARLY CONCERN
THAT HAD BOB MUELLER IS GOING IN
THERE AND SAY SOMETHING MORE
THAN TOTAL EXONERATION AND NOW
HIS MESSAGE STARTS TO SHIFT.
AS YOU KNOW FROM WATCHING THE
NEWS, WE WANT TO KEEP YOU UP TO
SPEED.
SPEED. WHAT BOB MUELLER DID IN HIS
CAREFUL REPORT WAS NOT ACTUALLY
ISSUE A LEGAL CONCLUSION ON
OBSTRUCTION.
OBSTRUCTION. HE BASICALLY THAT, HERE’S ALL
THE EVIDENCE.
THE EVIDENCE. AND HE NOTED EXPLICITLY THAT
WHEN IT COMES TO THE PRESIDENT,
THE SPECIAL CASE, THE CONGRESS
WILL DECIDE WHETHER TO DO
ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
THEN ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR SAID
NO, WE WON’T DO THIS.
AND HE ANNOUNCED HIS PERSONAL
CONCLUSION.
CONCLUSION. SO GIVEN EVERYTHING THAT’S
HAPPENED, IT IS TIME TO HEAR
FROM MUELLER HIMSELF.
THEN YOU HAVE DONALD TRUMP FOR
THE FIRST TIME IN HIS PRESIDENCY
THIS WEEK EXERTING EXECUTIVE
PRIVILEGE.
PRIVILEGE. JERRY NADLER SAYING, ALL OF THIS
REQUIRES MORE FACT FINDING.
THAT THEY WANT TO HEAR FROM
MUELLER.
MUELLER. THE TESTIMONY DAY COULD BE
DELAYED BUT THEY’RE GOING TO
HEAR FROM MUELLER.
TRUMP USED HIS REMARKS TO TRY TO
AGAIN UNDERCUT SPECIAL COUNSEL
MUELLER.
MUELLER. >> BOB MUELLER IS NO FRIEND OF
MINE.
MINE. WE HAD SOMEBODY IN LOVE WITH
JAMES COMEY.
JAMES COMEY. WE LIKED JAYMES.
THEY WERE VERY GOOD FRIENDS.
MAYBE NOT.
MAYBE NOT. YOU SEE HUNDREDS OF PICTURES OF
HIM AND COMEY.
AND WITH ALL OF THAT, AND OTHER
THINGS, HE WANTED THE FBI JOB.
HE WAS CONSIDERED AND WANTED IT.
THE DAY AFTER DIDN’T GET IT, HE
BECAME THE SPECIAL COUNSEL.
>> THERE’S A LOT IN THERE.
I’M NOT GOING TO SPEND ALL OUR
TIME FACT CHECKING IT BUT THERE
ARE NOT HUNDREDS OF DOCUMENTED
IMAGES OF THESE TWO APPEARING
TOGETHER.
TOGETHER. WHETHER OR NOT THEY’RE IN LOVE
IS A MATTER OF THE HUMAN HEART.
I’M NOT GOING TO BOTHER.
AS FOR THAT OTHER PIECE OF
EVIDENCE THAT MUELLER WANTED THE
FBI JOB, IF YOU READ THE MUELLER
REPORT, YOU MAY KNOW.
TOTALLY FALSE.
TOTALLY FALSE. THE FACT FINDING AND THE
CONCLUSIONS IN THE REPORT NOTE
THAT THE WHITE HOUSE ASKED MR.
MUELLER AS A COURTESY TO GIVE
DONALD TRUMP VIEWS OF THE FBI
DURING THE TUMULTUOUS PERIOD
DURING THE PERIOD WHEN HE WAS
FBI DIRECTOR AND MR. MUELLER
AGREED TO DO IT.
IT WAS NOT A FORMAL JOB
INTERVIEW.
INTERVIEW. THAT’S IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU’RE
SEEING AGAIN, DONALD TRUMP
BALANCING TWO MESSAGES.
ONE IS THIS IS OVER, DON’T WORRY
ABOUT IT.
ABOUT IT. TODAY, MAYBE UNDER THE PRESSURE,
MAYBE UNDER THE CRACKING, MAYBE
UNDER THE CONTEMPT, DONALD TRUMP
HITTING HIS OTHER MESSAGE.
GOING BACK INTO THINGS THAT HAVE
BEEN DISPROVEN BY HIS OWN AIDES
AND BY THE RECORD TO IMPUGN BOB
MUELLER WHICH MAKES YOU WONDER,
WHY IS DONALD TRUMP SO WORRIED
ABOUT MUELLER BREAKING HIS
SILENCE.
SILENCE. >> HE TOLD LAWMAKERS THAT HE
DIDN’T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MR.
MUELLER TESTIFYING.
MUELLER TESTIFYING. >> I’M GOING TO LEAVE THAT UP TO
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE REDO.
>> HEAVE IT UP TO THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL.
GENERAL. THIS IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO
OF COURSE IS UNDER PRESSURE FOR
CONTEMPT FOR ONE ISSUE.
IT’S NOT OTHER STUFF.
IT IS HIDING PARTS OF THE
EVIDENCE FROM THE MUELLER
REPORT.
REPORT. IT IS REFUSING TO TURN OVER
THOSE DOCUMENTS.
THOSE DOCUMENTS. THAT BRINGS US TO THE OTHER
THING I TOLD YOU ABOUT.
IF IT FEELS LIKE THERE IS SO
MUCH HAPPENING.
MUCH HAPPENING. THERE’S SO MUCH DRAMA.
SUCH EXTREME LANGUAGE.
WELL, WE ARE HEARING FROM PUBLIC
OFFICIALS WHO HAVE BEEN CAREFUL
ALONG THE WAY.
THEY’RE USING EXTREME LANGUAGE
BECAUSE THEY SAY THE PRESIDENT
IS ACTING IN EXTREME AND
POTENTIALLY UNLAWFUL WAYS.
THEY’RE SAYING WE’RE NOW IN THE
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS.
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS. >> DO YOU AGREE WITH CHAIRMAN
NADLER THAT THE COUNTRY IS
CURRENTLY IN A CONSTITUTIONAL
CRISIS.
CRISIS. >> YES.
>> YES. I DO AGREE WITH CHAIRMAN NADLER.
IT IS A PATH THAT IS PRODUCING
RESULTS.
RESULTS. AND GATHERING INFORMATION.
AND SOME OF THAT INFORMATION IS,
THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION WANTS
TO HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS
BECAUSE THEY DO NOT RESPECT THE
OATH OF OFFICE THAT THEY TAKE.
>> I’M JOINED NOW FROM BBC NEWS,
MATT MILLER, AND JUANITA.
MATT, WHEN YOU SEE IT ALL LAID
OUT THERE, THE PRESIDENT’S NEED
TO RAISE HIS OTHER DEFENSES AND
WATER DOWN SOME OF HIS OLDER
CLAIMS ABOUT OBSTRUCTION IN AN
UNRELATED EVENT, AND THE
PRESSURE ON HIM AND ATTORNEY
GENERAL BARR AND WHAT THE
SPEAKER IS SAYING, WHAT DO YOU
THINK IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING
HERE?
HERE? DO YOU AGREE THAT WE ARE
ACTUALLY AT A CRISIS OR IS IT
NOT THAT TIME YET?
>> I THINK HOW THE COURTS
RESPOND TO WHAT’S HAPPENING,
WHETHER THEY’RE ABLE TO RESPOND
QUICKLY, WILL DETERMINE WHETHER
WE’RE IN A CRISIS OR NOT.
WE’RE SEEING A COMPLETE
BREAKDOWN OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL
ORDER.
ORDER. THE FACT THAT THE WHITE HOUSE IS
NOT JUST REFUSING TO TURN OVER
DOCUMENTS ON ONE THING.
IF WRIT JUST NOT TURNING OVER ON
THE MUELLER REPORT, WELL, THAT’S
UNACCEPTABLE, IT COULD BE WORKED
OUT OVER THE USUAL COURSE OF
BUSINESS IN THE COURTS.
IT IS NOT JUST THAT.
IT IS THE HOUSE’S INVESTIGATIONS
INTO SEPARATION.
INTO SEPARATION. THE ADMINISTRATION’S FAIL YOU’RE
THE DEFEND THE AFFORDABLE CARE
ACT.
ACT. ISSUE AFTER ISSUE WHERE THEY’RE
REFUSING TO TURN OVER ANY
DOCUMENTS.
DOCUMENTS. IT GETS YOU TO THE POINT WHERE
THE NORMAL CONSTITUTIONAL ORDER
HAS BROKEN DOWN.
IF THE COURTS ALLOW THAT TO GO
ON FOR ANY EXTENDED PERIOD OF
TIME.
TIME. IF THEY TAKE THEIR USUAL COURSE
OF ACTION.
OF ACTION. TO ALLOW THE WHITE HOUSE TO DRAG
IT OUT FOR MONTHS IF NOT YEARS,
WE ARE IN A CONSTITUTIONAL
CRISIS.
CRISIS. THE SPEAKER SAID SOMETHING VERY
INTERESTING.
INTERESTING. THEY WON’T BRING THIS RESOLUTION
OF CONTEMPT UP RIGHT AWAY.
THEY MAY SEE ANOTHER COMMITTEE
DOING IT.
DOING IT. THERE MAY BE OTHER CABINET
MEMBERS HELD IN CONTEMPT.
I THINK WHAT THEY’RE TRYING TO
DO POTENTIALLY IS PUT TOGETHER A
LITIGATION STRATEGY WHERE THEY
GO TO THE COURTS AND SAY THE
POINT I WAS MAKING.
IT IS NOT ONE THING.
IT IS EVERYTHING.
IF YOU DON’T STEP UP AND MAKE
THIS IMMEDIATELY A
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS IS UPON US
AND CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT MAY
BE DEAD FOREVER.
>> THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS
SHOWN HIMSELF TO BE WILLING TO
REALLY PUSH THE LIMITS.
HE WAS AT A DEPARTURE CEREMONY.
A CELEBRATION OF SORTS FOR ROD
ROSENSTEIN.
ROSENSTEIN. ANY NUMBER OF WAYS TO DEAL WITH
THAT.
THAT. YOU DON’T NEED TO GET INTO IT.
THIS IS HOW HE DEALT WITH IT.
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE
UNITED STATES SPEAKING IN PUBLIC
IN THE WAKE OF THIS HISTORIC
VOTE OF CONTEMPT BY THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. TAKE A LOOK.
>> IN THOSE DAYS, THE DEPUTY JOB
WAS A LOT DIFFERENT.
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL JOB WAS A
LOT DIFFERENT, ALSO.
THIS MUST BE A RECORD OF
ATTORNEY GENERAL BEING PROPOSED
FOR CONTEMPT WITHIN 100 DAYS OF
TAKING OFFICE.
TAKING OFFICE. >> FUNNY THING TO MAKE A JOKE
ABOUT, RIGHT?
ABOUT, RIGHT? >> FOR AN ATTORNEY GENERAL.
>> FOR AN ATTORNEY GENERAL
FACING A CONTEMPT CHARGE.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE DEBATES ABOUT
WHETHER WE ARE IN A
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS OR WHETHER
WE GET THERE WHEN A COURT GOES
THROUGH PROCESS, ISSUES AN
ORDER, THE WHITE HOUSE THEN
DEFIES IT WOULD.
THAT BE THE MOMENT OF
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS?
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS? SO THERE IS SOME DEBATE ABOUT
WHETHER WE’RE THERE OR NOT.
THE ISSUE FOR THE WHITE HOUSE IS
WHETHER THEY ARE OVERPLAYING
THEIR HAND, AS MATT IS
SUGGESTING, BY DEFYING DEMANDS
ON EVERY FRONT FROM CONGRESS.
THEN THE ISSUE FOR THE DEMOCRATS
IS WHERE THEY RISK OVERMAYING
THEIR HAND BY ASKING FOR SO MUCH
THAT THEY WEAKEN THEIR POSITION
AS WELL.
AS WELL. THIS HAS TO GO THROUGH COURTS.
THE QUESTION IN PRECEDENT IS
WHETHER WE GET TO A RESOLUTION
WHEN DONALD TRUMP IS STILL IN
OFFICE.
OFFICE. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. AND CHAIRMAN NADLER IS VERY
CLEARLY DRIVING THIS WITH ALL
THE LEGAL SOPHISTICATION THAT HE
HAS.
HAS. IT IS SO FASCINATING THE WAY
THESE TRANSPIRE.
THESE TRANSPIRE. THEY’VE DEALT WITH EACH OTHER.
I BELIEVE IN A CERTAIN WAY,
ALTHOUGH YOU WOULDN’T KNOW IT
RECENTLY.
RECENTLY. I BELIEVE THEY PRIVATELY RESPECT
EACH OTHER’S HUSTLE.
THEY ARE TOUGH NEW YORKERS.
SO THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHO HE’S
DEALING WITH.
DEALING WITH. THAT NADLER HAS A PLAN BEYOND
ONE VOTE, ONE HEARING.
THAT MUELLER OF COURSE LOOMS IN
THE BACK GROUND.
WITH THAT IN MIND, TAKE A LOOK
AT WHAT THEY CAN ALSO DO TODAY.
>> EVENTUALLY WE’LL HEAR FROM
MUELLER.
MUELLER. IF WE HAVE TO, WE WILL SUBPOENA
HIM IF WE HAVE TO.
I HOPE IT DOESN’T COME TO THE
NECESSITY TO SUBPOENA HIM.
>> WHAT DOES IT TELL THAT YOU
THERE IS NOW SUCH A CONCERN OVER
MUELLER TALKING.
MUELLER TALKING. >> THAT PHRASE THAT DONALD TRUMP
USED TODAY IN THAT SLIGHTLY LONG
RAMBLING
RAMBLING RAMBLING SPIEL THAT HE GAVE, I’M
NOT AS CONVINCED AS YOU ARE THAT
THAT WORD ESSENTIALLY CLEARED OF
OBSTRUCTION MEANS THAT DONALD
TRUMP IS REALLY BACKTRACKING.
I WOULDN’T BE SURPRISED IF HE
GOES TO THE NEXT CAMPAIGN RALLY
AND THE HEADLINE IS NO
COLLUSION, NO OBSTRUCTION.
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT HE’S THERE.
>> I THINK YOU RAISE AN
INTERESTING COUNTER POINT.
I’M WONDERING, WHETHER WHEN HE
CONTROLS THE OVERWHELMING
NARRATIVE OF THE REPORT, HE IS
COMFORTABLE IN THE NO COLLUSION,
NO OBSTRUCTION LANDSCAPE.
AND HE THINKS, HE MAY BE RIGHT.
HE THINKS IF BARR AND THEIR ECHO
CHAMBER ON TELEVISION SAYS THIS
TO ENOUGH PEOPLE, THAT’S MORE OR
LESS THE END OF IT.
IF MUELLER HAS A MADE FOR TV
NATIONALLY BROADCAST OF THE
EVIDENCE, THAT DOESN’T SEEM TO
HOLD AS WELL.
>> WHATEVER TRUMP SAID TODAY
ABOUT THIS IS EFFECTIVELY BARR’S
DECISION, THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT
TRUMP DOES NOT WANT MUELLER TO
TESTIFY.
TESTIFY. WHAT IS IN THIS FOR TRUMP, TO
HAVE THE ULTIMATE RESPECT AND
WHO IS THE AUTHOR OF THE REPORT
COME OUT AND SAY, ACTUALLY, THE
PRESIDENT’S DEFINITION OF
WHETHER HE WAS CLEARED OF
OBSTRUCTION WAS NOT MY
DEFINITION.
DEFINITION. TO SAY THAT TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. IT WOULD BE BLOCKBUSTER VIEWING.
EVERYBODY WOULD BE WATCHING THAT
MARCH MOTEL.
MARCH MOTEL. SO THERE IS NO VESTED INTEREST
IN THE PRESIDENT HAVING THAT
MOMENT.
MOMENT. THE WHITE HOUSE DOES FEEL THERE
IS STILL AN INTEREST HAVING THE
DEMOCRATS LAUNCH IMPEACHMENT
PROCEEDINGS.
PROCEEDINGS. THEY THINK --
>> IT IS POLITICS.
BOTH SIDES TALKING ABOUT
POLITICS INSTEAD OF THE SERIOUS
CONSTITUTIONAL OBLIGATION.
CONSTITUTIONAL OBLIGATION. JUANITA, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> I THINK WHEN HE HAS HIS NEXT
CAMPAIGN RALLY, TRUMP WILL BE
SAYING, WHAT IS COLLUSION?
WHAT IS OBSTRUCTION?
AND MUDDYING THE DEFINITION
FURTHER.
FURTHER. WHAT HE UNDERSTANDS IS HIS BASE
PROBABLY WILL NOT DIG INTO THAT
NUANCE.
NUANCE. THEY PROBABLY ALREADY DON’T
BELIEVE MUELLER.
BELIEVE MUELLER. SO HE WILL DOUBLE DOWN ON THAT.
THIS IS STRAIGHT OUT OF HIS PLAY
BOOK.
BOOK. LIKE HE SAID EARLIER, HE IS
ALREADY CRITICIZING MUELLER.
ALREADY THROWING FALSE
ACCUSATIONS OUT THERE ABOUT HIS
REPUTATION, TRYING TO SULLY HIS
NAME AS WELL BECAUSE HE KNOWS
EVENTUALLY MUELLER WILL TESTIFY
AND HE’S GOING TO BLOW THE LIVED
OFF EVERYTHING THAT TRUMP HAS
BEEN FLYING, LEVERAGING
EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE.
EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE. AND NONE OF THE PEOPLE SHOULD
RESPOND TO SUBPOENAS.
>> WHAT DID YOU THINK OF BILL
BARR’S HANDLING OF THE CONTEMPT
ISSUE TODAY?
ISSUE TODAY? >> COME ON.
IF THIS IS A JOKE IN HIS MIND,
THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT HIS
CHARACTER AND WHAT HE REALLY
BELIEVES AS HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE
THE TOP LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER
FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
THIS JUST DOUBLES DOWN ON THE
FACT THAT HE IS REALLY RIGHT
ALONGSIDE TRUMP WORKING AS HIS
DEFENSE ATTORNEY.
DEFENSE ATTORNEY. >> LET ME PUSH MATT ON THIS WHO
SERVED FOR THE ONLY OTHER
ATTORNEY GENERAL.
ATTORNEY GENERAL. THE TONE WAS DIFFERENT BUT THERE
ARE PLENTY OF FOLKS THAT SAY YOU
AND YOUR BOSS WORKED HARD TO
DISCREDIT ANY EFFORT.
IT DID RESULT IN, AND I’M
SIMPLIFYING, IT DISCLOSED
EVIDENCE.
EVIDENCE. HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT?
>> LOOK.
>> LOOK. THEY’RE VERY DIFFERENT.
NOT TO GO BACK IN TIME TO FAST
AND FURIOUS BUT IT WAS A VERY
DIFFERENT THING.
DIFFERENT THING. THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAD
TURNED OVER NEARLY 8,000 PAGES
OF DOCUMENTS.
OF DOCUMENTS. THEY MADE 8,000 PAGES AVAILABLE.
AS YOU NOTE, THEY LOST IN COURT.
>> I WOULD CALL IT A MIXED
DECISION.
DECISION. >> MIXED DECISION BUT FOR THE
MOST PART, LOST.
IT IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT’S
HAPPENING WITH THIS JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT WHERE THEY ARE
REFUSING TO TURN OVER ANYTHING.
THEY ARE REFUSING TO MAKE
WITNESSES AVAILABLE.
WITNESSES AVAILABLE. IT IS CLEAR THE PRESIDENT WILL
EXERT EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE OVER
DON McGAHN’S TESTIMONY.
AS FOR BOB MUELLER, I THINK IT
IS CLEAR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS
BLOCKING HIS TESTIMONY.
HE MAY EVENTUALLY TESTIFY.
THE HOUSE WANTS HIM NEXT BEING.
THEY’VE BEEN ASKING FOR HIM FOR
A WHILE.
A WHILE. IT IS PRETTY CLEAR THAT IT SEEMS
UNLIKELY TO HAPPEN.
AT SOME POINT IT IS OBVIOUS THEY
DON’T WANT ANY WITNESSES TO COME
FORWARD.
FORWARD. AS YOU POINT OUT, A LOT OF
THINGS TRUMP DOESN’T UNDERSTAND.
SOMETIMES INTENTIONALLY DOESN’T
UNDERSTAND.
UNDERSTAND. ONE THING HE GETS IS TELEVISION.
IF HE KNOWS BOB MUELLER COMES UP
AND TESTIFIES, IF DON McGAHN
TESTIFIES, SUDDENLY THOSE DRY
WORDS IN THE REPORT THAT MOST OF
THE AMERICAN PUBLIC DON’T READ,
COMES ALIVE ON TV.
>> THAT’S WHERE THE LEGAL STUFF
EXPECTS WITH HOW PEOPLE MAKE UP
THEIR MINDS.
THEIR MINDS. IT IS THE SAME IN DEBATES.
YOU TRY ON RAISE EXPECTATIONS ON
YOUR DEBATE BECAUSE OF THE WAY
IT WILL PLAY.
IF THIS IS WHERE IT ENDS, YOU
COULD ARGUE THAT IT WORKED.
I THINK THE CONCERN IS THAT
THEY’VE CHANGED THE EXPECTATIONS
GAME.
GAME. PEOPLE HEAR OUT OF MUELLER’S
MOUTH, FIVE PLUS MORE FELONIES.