it's still i mean i'm still sort of baffled by this because on one hand
right i mean the uh... you mentioned in the piece that the only time that we had
any real sort of
and national
style program for this uh... daycare happened during uh... world war two
where obviously um... women had to
uh... leave the home go in and work in uh... their factories
uh... for the war effort as uh...
many men were off fighting
and
that was an easy
all insofar as it was a patriotic duty
right and then we have to take care the kids because the women have to go work
and then after the war other the the tire programs basically ah... scrapped
because now it's time for the women to get back into uh...
uh... back into the home
obviously you mentioned that things have changed dramatically in the last
thirty
yes now forty inst
uh... in terms of what women in the work force
there is so it just seems to be a true
mendez vacuum in talking about this
um...
it just seems so of course in there
i'd just can't reconcile how it is
georgia happens to be the state that addresses it
yeah i know i i i i i i hope it will uh... i
and um... you know one fight is like i said how little information we've been
hell unless i mean if we cared about this
securely wpspan to get a little poor closely another sign and and this is a
very anecdotal but i think it's cut right i went back for my research i look
at the archived in time magazine and newsweek
exudate news weeklies
uh... and and and i said how often did they put
a cap on the cover of the magazine like definitely good
leading indicator of the country think cyclical recovery time right
chronic lagging indicator
highlighting it if they let you know and and but i do not like it if possible and
that i didn't do the right to determine best i can tell
going back to you and i think that there was one
cover one
one cover for something that you know affect a huge number of kiddush large
proportion of americans
and yet even though a lot of my article what we've been talking about watching
that's about more lower-income parent i think middle-income parents
deadwood big of a great summer things would be no their struggle right now
identifying day care from a kid i can't find something that i trust my camp
unexpected way more that i thought it was going to be talking you would think
this would be uh... a big
issue and i really haven't been
unquiet you know either very theories why on the right one reason that we got
more attention at the national level
in congress' nature of
obvious religion blood coming up
reading to get this something that we
you know that left you know for women it was a women's issue with the women
stalinism and whatever they want to work and don't forget to their white
and uh... you know what the congress it was mostly mentality though mostly men
but it's not nearly as uh... invalidate the used to be we're getting more women
in congress propagating
made in congress were younger diving in general is a generational shift here
were men
event at my age you don't like to get the army's distribute reading l
parenting and unequal responsibilities you have
who you know they've been the men the men who were coming to congress now
they have working stuff that they are more likely
to have you know to be treating sort of you know parenting thing that that that
they put on their brain as well so i think that's one reason why people maybe
now start to shift on a national level
you know i don't know enough of the backstory in in in in georgia in a
politically why happened at prickly pear uh... yesterday legislatures rose cut
quirky of but i guess to oklahoma
is a pretty corky uh... state legislature abuses by yesterday gets a
bit retired and i think that i was one of those work
at something dot packed going on but they were voting for any of the we're
terrible at writing whatever the start of his body of the attachment at the top
of the public and people like it may take private and i wish i could get the
testimony of the fact that this is something
you know that has bipartisan going on ever when i was working on that story
about uh... how the brain development talk from the experts and they they call
the pickup we have to go and tell you that we go into red state all the time
and people you know this is not ideological it
conservatively was no they'd get mad and they care about it and you know uh...
typically among religious groups in the religion over uh... across the political
spectrum people feel like you know
your helping children
it something that has a handwritten neatly broad appeal to chat
it's interesting too because i know that you've been working on this piece uh...
for some time
maginnis quite a bit of time prior to
president obama raising this uh... proposals in the state of the union
i wonder if part of of that equation is also a function of the rise of
single women
um...
in as a
at least a perceived elect aural
uh...
force
and it is
that isn't
that we're going to see more of this because that is a constituency that is
now perceived as one backing really affect the outcome of
you know that dangerous man i don't know enough about the politics of this became
independently and in that
in other issues yet on that feature people like this issue they can
anticipate greedy and in general i think he said do we should have good daycare
mail for kids
you know you'll get a lot to do with her that supported the of the questions
below what are they willing to
sacrifice in terms of spending elsewhere taxes are other priorities in
they care about the cause of the voting booth i mean who knows i mean that
there's been so hole
separate discussion about that
uh... but you know i do feel like
there is a strength
uh... you know i mean
this issue has come up before in congress there was a bill and i can send
me the present nixon vetoed
uh... in the eighties
uh... there were some attempt to sort of organizer and a credit card ended up
becoming a
uh... e
that sort of there there was a sherbet the energy they ended up being expended
on family medical leave which
big work done
you know in the late eighties early nineties analyst p dot for when bill
clinton became president he find that into law
uh... i do you feel like there's a stand that
uh... the constituency for this is growing at and that this is an issue
politicians get a chance for that matter
do something that will
tangibly
uh... help
uh... people we have to vote so you know i i i think that i think the one-term
prepared to go picture and into the politically people seated at the weather
i would think that many republicans as well as democrats but you have a
long-term can be well
you know to be pretty long
and i wonder how much uh... the idea i mean do you know it's almost siblings
really start to think about it or at least when i was really start to think
about it it's surprising to me that there is already some type of attack ads
tax expenditure this event tax credit
for this imminent and then i guess on and second thought it's also sort of
such a tax credit would be so
really have the biggest impact in terms of middle-class families i would imagine
right because them if you're one of the other is a riot act which is not great
big right now and i mean you know if you look at uh... if you look abroad it all
up to the country's that dues paid typically
you know they provide
you know subsidies for daycare blog hundreds died as a tax break you know in
part the stated to the families
if you would rather have a parent
stay home
mom dad whatever
you know the rather than you get into it they care or you want to do its
republics what will give you can support for that as well you know we don't like
you know i thing you know that choice
though you know that you do with the other countries do any weekend after tax
basis it is not that he's not merely because further further into lastly what
what what
if you were to be able to design something and what to
of of
of i mean cuz i
have little doubt that in terms of uh...
developed countries we are
lagging behind in in in providing this type of
support
or uh...
uh... for folks
what system would you base it own i mean where when you look at uh...
childcare
programs that exist what would you base it on what would it look like
though i mean and there is no time enough data eview decorative
to pay by me distinguishes are what do you want the actual
care to look like for the kidney out that the government get to their right
soda the first part and i mean i think we know what to call it look like a man
who probably look a lot
uh... it would be looked at me like what they do in france although you know
every cultures differ in there will be cultural difference as preprint
connected to actually
a pretty good example treatment because what we have for the u_s_ military and
care on u_s_ military bases actually consider to be quite good for the most
part um... you know and and and and and that in the fact that the people
uh... when they're doing it right and there've been some lapses recently but
you know when they do it right
they're pretty you know they they they hire people with experience they pay
them a little better i think have uh... reasonably strong regulations about the
number of adults per child but you know that uh... safety regulations which are
really inspect them four times a year which is
much higher than than most
than most states do
uh... answers say without a look at something like that
and then you know how the government to get you there are no you know if you do
this lesson i think there's a lot of different that the more open question
but really the bottom part of
uh... subsidies come out of a tax credit again you'd want
to make it though the actor goal here is that anybody can afford it regardless of
their income
uh... and you know again people like that
more time at home in the public indicate on appeal i betcha like he got to know
how to do that nafta
but the whole of competition but i think what you want to get to in the end of
the day uh... something that looks like with the military hajur maybe has some
things in common what they do now in france that some of the european
companies once again the military proves just how well socialism or xx uh...
significant we can only get them to spread that to the rest of the country
at we had the uh... we would be a far better off well by jonathan appreciate
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