HARDER TO ENFORCE NDAs IN CASES
OF SEXUAL ASSAULT ALLEGATIONS.
>>> WE ARE JOINED LIVE NOW BY
FORMER EXECUTIVE FOR ATLANTIC
RECORDS, DOROTHY CORVELLO.
WE THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING
TOP STORY TONIGHT.
DOROTHY, YOU HAVE THIS DREAM
JOB IN THE INDUSTRY.
YOU, YOURSELF, ARE A
TRAILBLAZER.
YOU LITERALLY ARE LIVING THAT
ROCK STAR LIFE, BEING ON THE
FOREFRONT OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY
AT A TIME WHEN THERE WERE NO
OTHER WOMEN, YET YOU ARE
SUFFERING.
ACCORDING TO YOUR ACCUSATIONS,
DAY IN AND DAY OUT
PSYCHOLOGICALLY, PHYSICALLY,
WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?
>> IT WAS HORRIBLE.
LIKE YOU SAID, I WAS TRYING TO
LIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM.
I WENT TO COLLEGE.
THIS WAS MY FIRST JOB IN A
COMPANY WITH GREAT BENEFIT,
HEALTH INSURANCE, EVERYTHING
YOU COULD ASK FOR.
AND IT JUST TURNED INTO A
NIGHTMARE FOR ME.
>> DID YOU FEEL YOU COULDN'T
COMPLAIN OR YOU HAD NOWHERE TO
GO, ONE, BECAUSE OF THE TIME,
AND TWO BECAUSE YOU LOVED THE
JOB SO MUCH?
>> I DID COMPLAIN, AND I
FOLLOWED THE STRUCTURE OF HR AT
TIME WARNER AT THE TIME, AND IT
DIDN'T MATTER.
YOU HAD NO POWER AS A WOMAN AT
ALL.
THEY HAVE ALL THE POWER, THE
MONEY, AND WHAT DID I HAVE?
WHEN I DID COMPLAIN, I WAS
TOSSED OUT LIKE GARBAGE.
>> SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY
THIS WAS THE ERA OF SEX, DRUGS,
AND ROCK AND ROLL.
SOME PEOPLE MAY BE SAYING, I
HATE TO ASK THIS QUESTION, BUT
I HAVE TO.
SOME PEOPLE MAY BE SAYING TO
THEMSELVES, THIS HAPPENED
DECADES AGO, RIGHT?
WHY ARE YOU STILL FIGHTING FOR
THIS?
I HAVE TO THINK, YOU'RE
FIGHTING BECAUSE YOU WANT
JUSTICE.
>> CORRECT.
I WANT JUSTICE FOR MYSELF AND
EVERY OTHER WOMAN THAT WAS
TOSSED OUT LIKE GARBAGE,
INCLUDING FEMALE ARTISTS THAT
WERE ABUSED HORRIBLY.
AND THIS WAS A PUBLICLY TRADE
COMPANY WITH THE BOARD OF
DIRECTORS WHERE HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WAS MADE.
AND IS STILL BEING MADE.
THIS BUSINESS HAS BEEN
UNTOUCHED IN TERMS OF ME, TOO,
OR ANY TYPE OF CIVIL RIGHTS
INJUSTICES.
>> WHAT DID OTHER PEOPLE DO?
SOME OF THE ALLEGATIONS THAT
YOU STATE IN YOUR BOOK AND IN
THIS LAWSUIT, I MEAN, THEY ARE
SHOCKING.
WE HEARD A LOT OF STUFF DURING
THE MOVEMENT.
SOME OF YOUR STUFF IS JUST
SHOCKING.
THE MIDDLE OF MEETINGS MALE
EXECUTIVES TOUCHING THEMSELVES
WHILE THEY WERE TRYING TO
CONDUCT BUSINESS, AND TOUCHING
YOU AT THE SAME TIME.
>> WELL, I CAN'T COMMENT
DIRECTLY ON ALLEGATIONS IN THE
LAWSUIT.
THAT'S FOR THE COURT.
THE TRUTH WILL BE TOLD.
WITNESSES ARE STILL AROUND.
SO IT'S NOT THAT LONG AGO AND
IT AFFECTED MY LIFE PERSONALLY
SO MUCH THAT I WROTE A BOOK
ABOUT IT AND WAS ABLE TO
PUBLISH A BOOK ABOUT THIS.
WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?
>> I DON'T WANT TO ASK YOU
ABOUT THE BOOK, IT WAS PREME
TOO MOVEMENT.
THE LAWS HAVE CHANGED.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY THIS,
THESE ALLEGED CRIMES HAPPENED
DECADES AGO.
HOW HARD IS IT GOING TO WIN
THIS CASE?
>> WE BELIEVE THE FACT THAT
DOROTHY KNOWS WHERE ALL THE
SKELETONS ARE BURIED.
THAT'S IMPORTANT.
SHE IS A TRAILBLAZER BECAUSE
HOPEFULLY, IT'S GOING TO SET A
PRECEDENT FOR OTHER WOMEN WHO
HAVE BEEN SUFFERING IN SILENCE
FOR DECADES.
ATTORNEY ANDREWS AND I SAY,
WARNER RELEASE FROM THE NDAs,
IF YOU'RE NOT AFRAID OF THE
TRUTH, LET THESE WOMEN BE HEARD
FINALLY.
>> DOROTHY, IN YOUR BOOK, YOU
WROTE THAT YOU WERE STILL
FRIENDS WITH SOME OF THE MEN
THAT ABUSED YOU?
IS THAT A FAIR
CHARACTERIZATION?
IF SO, EXPLAIN TO ME SORT OF
THE PROCESS?
WAS IT JUST SOMETHING THAT
HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE A VICTIM OR
WAS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD
TO DO?
>> WELL, IN ORDER TO WORK IN
THE MUSIC BUSINESS, IT IS
CONTROLLED BY ONLY A FEW PEOPLE
AND I WANTED TO WORK IN THE
MUSIC BUSINESS.
>> YOU ESSENTIALLY COULDN'T
BURN BRIDGES.
>> IT ISN'T A QUESTION OF
BURNING BRIDGES, THEY JUST
THROW YOU OUT AND I WAS ABLE
TO, YOU KNOW, EKE OUT A SMALL
CAREER, NOT WHERE I SHOULD BE,
SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
AND EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE
DONE.
>> EXACTLY, THEY WILL BLACKLIST
YOU.
>> TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT, BEN.
>> LIKE IN ANY INDUSTRY, IF YOU
ARE DOWN HERE AND YOU ARE A
WHISTLE BLOWER, THEY CAN
BLACKBALL YOU AND NOBODY IN THE
INDUSTRY WILL HAVE ANYTHING TO
DO WITH YOU.
AND WHEN YOU READ HER BOOK, YOU
SEE INSTANCES OF THAT, TOM, AND
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO BE
UNAPOLOGETIC.
AND OPPOSITION TO OPPRESSION
AND ANY FASHION OR FORM OR ANY
MANNER.
I'M TROUBLED BY THE FACT THAT
YOU KNOW, HARVEY WEINSTEIN,
THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THOSE
WOMEN'S VOICES HEARD, BUT IN
THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, THEY
HAVEN'T HAD TO FACE THE MUSIC
AT ALL.
>> WILL YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND
JOG PEOPLE'S MEMORIES FROM
DECADES AGO?
HOW DIFFICULT IS THAT GOING TO
BE?
>> YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE IN HER
LAWSUIT, SHE ACTUALLY FILED A
COMPLAINT IN WRITING.
AND SO IT'S NOT HARD, YOU KNOW,
TALKING TO MY COCOUNCIL AND
DAVID TO BE ABLE TO SAY, SHE
FILED A COMPLAINT, AND WHAT WAS
THE RESPONSE?
AND IF THEY HAD A RESPONSE, WE
WILL SEE IT.
WHETHER THE RESPONSE WAS; IT
DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU SAY.
>> THERE WAS A TIME WHEN ONE OF
THE MEN YOU'RE ACCUSING.
THE PEOPLE YOU ACCUSED ARE
DENYING THE ALLEGATIONS.
THERE WAS A TIME WHEN SHE WAS
ONE OF THE BIGGEST NAMES IN THE
MUSIC INDUSTRY.
HE IS CURRENTLY IN THE ROCK AND
ROLL HALL OF FAME.
DID YOU THINK THE HOCK AND ROLL
HALL OF FAME SHOULD REVISIT HIS
INDUCTION AND SHOULD THEY TAKE
IT AWAY?
>> 100%.
OF COURSE, NOBODY TALKS ABOUT
ANY OF THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT
GOTTEN THE ATTENTION THAT OTHER
INDUSTRIES HAVE IN TERMS OF ME
TOO.
EVERYONE WHO MADE THE ROCK AND
ROLL HALL OF FAME WERE CLOSE
FRIENDS, SO IT IS A CLUB.
>> DOROTHY, TALKING TO YOU, I
HAVE TO SAY, AND MAYBE YOU CAN
HELP HER OUT WITH THIS, IT
DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU HAVE A
LOT OF FAITH IN THE SYSTEM.
YOU SUFFERED SO MUCH.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE
FAITH IN THE SYSTEM.
>> WELL, I DO HAVE FAITH IN THE
FACT THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR
YEARS, AND NOW WITH BEN CRUMP,
I'M HOPING TO HAVE WOMEN FEEL
THAT THEY HAVE SOMEONE
ADVOCATING FOR THEM.
THE BUSINESS HAS NOT ADDRESSED
ANY ME TOO ISSUES AS A WHOLE.
AND IT IS STILL BEING RUN BY
THE SAME PEOPLE.
>> TOM, WE HAVE TO KEEP
BUILDING COALITIONS FOR OUR
DAUGHTERS TO COME IN THE
FUTURE.
IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE DOROTHY STANDING THERE BY HERSELF.
STANDING THERE BY HERSELF.
THEN TO HAVE GRETCHEN CARLSON
AT FOX NEWS, AND THEN HAVE
OTHER WOMEN LIKE JULIE COME TO
STAND WITH HER BECAUSE THAT IS
THE ONLY WAY WE CAN GIVE THESE
WOMEN THEIR VOICES.
IF WE ALL STAND UP AND SAY
WOMEN RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.
>> YES.
>> BEN CRUMP, DOROTHY, THANK
YOU.
>> I LOOK FORWARD TO THE TRIAL
FOR JUSTICE TO BE DONE AND THE
TRUTH TO BE TOLD.