All right, Vinny.
Settle it. You are a son of Detroit. You were raised by
the bad boys.
I thought it was a playoff file.
I'll give you a fragrant one. If you insist
but flagrant. Ooh,
na
na,
what's a you?
I understand why the league did what they did.
It was not the call that I would have made. But when you
make contact to the head
and then you grab the jerseys, like tap tap like 2001. I think
it was a cumulation called. I think it was also a reputation
called on Draymond Green. Like, I was on a plane. I was headed
to Phoenix, which is where I am now. And
it was funny. I started getting text like, oh my God, I can't
believe this. And on airplanes, you're a few seconds behind
real time. So I'm like,
well, what did they do? They throw Draymond out? And they
were like, yes, and he's running around the court acting
like a fool. And I was like, okay.
Hello, Antonia Brown desk performance. That was,
I kind of dug it.
I got a dug it out of the busy hypocrite, but I think it, you
know,
I'd rather have him do that, then to yell and be right
the officials on his way out and get, you know,
further. To me, but for your point, did you guys hear about
the new Executive Vice President of our MBA operations
today? That just came out Dumars
0 Dumars? Yes. So if we're going to have a return to
Natural order,
of course, it's always going to be Detroit, that resets
the course that puts the league back in a place that it needs
to go and maybe
the next time something like this happens. We can have some
perspective. Now. The question I have for the league is what
constitutes a playoff by File. What is a hard contact file?
That is hard? That is to do. That's the question
on up. That's not flagrant. I need to see. That's
the question I have for you, good because maybe you could explain
the rule to me,
because you mentioned, you started off at and obviously,
the Jersey grab, even though he caught him all the way down,
was a part of it. But
when you said the contacts to the face,
is it any kind of contact to the face
or is it
egg wind up? Because Lined up, but if he's if he's
but okay, but wind up an impact but with one, it what, what
intent and I'm not talking about whether or not you
intended to do harm. I'm talking about. If you're
swiping down at the ball,
which it to me, it clearly looks like he was swiping down
at the ball and he caught his face. Why is that flagrant? As
opposed to just an accident? That's part of basketball.
The Jersey, grab, if you want to put, if you want a problem
with that, okay,
I mean not so much, but the swiping, so anytime you win. Up
to make a play on the ball and you catch somebody in the face.
That's a flagrant foul.
They're probably going to they're probably going to call
it. Honestly. They're probably going to call that a flagrant
one. Like when I play basketball, you know, and I was
amongst trees, the best way to get someone as opposed to
trying to get them on the way up or get them at the top. It's
to swipe down before the ball goes above. Their waist.
I think what happened is
Draymond swipe down and didn't get it. Right. He swiped down
and didn't get contact with the ball and clock was still going.
Go up, so he grabbed them again and not to grab him. So follow
him,
grabbing the catch his fall,
but to grab him to stop him again. So, I think they looked
at it as an accumulation. I wouldn't have called that
a flagrant two,
not in a playoff game of, but you are not a player.
I understand. This is what
this is, what the league is.
This is exact. Look you guys bitched and complain when
Michael Jordan wasn't flying through the air when the pit is
Well, and the way that they played you guys, head is
what you complain with. It was us
and this is the leak that you have. Are you happy now,
you said,
But not as well. Point out Vinny.
This is great. I love it. And you're right. Detroit Detroit.
Did this
the bad boys? And you know, what?
NBA didn't really like it.
Then it kind of like was phased out a little bit and it
probably was people
know that they didn't give me didn't like the style of play
the phantom
videos. They sold it coming.
You're not going to see here and perpetuate these lies.
You're not going to do this. Michael Holly for one. They
didn't care when the Celtics did it when Kevin McHale was
clothesline, a Kurt Rambis
and maybe they didn't call it that those different. And
and Larry Bruce was
to punch, combos to Bill Laimbeer. They didn't care.
Then surely didn't care. They didn't care when it's like
Detroit,
persecution complex is real.
Using complex.
The persecution complex. Anybody in Detroit has is real
because you're right was double standard that
people liked it. When it was done to Detroit. People didn't
like it was done by Detroit and
when the Knicks did it that change back, the rules changed.
Pat, Riley's Anthony Mason, Charles Oakley
Knicks. John. Starks ain't like that.
And so they're never going to go back to that. So Joe Dumars
thinks he's gonna restore order. He's in for a very rude
awakening. Nope.
They don't want anymore.
Don't wanna leave. No. No, I'm not sending. I think Joe is
going to take you back there because if you looked at it,
the point of emphasis going into this season was about
allowing more physical play
for d-fenders and to give defense, has
more of a chance to sort of prevent against,
you know, the trade Young's and the James Harden's and some of
the nonsense that they were doing and they succeeded for
maybe a month and a half and then it seemed like it went
right back to business
as usual. So I do think that you're right that the lead
wanted to be this way, but You think it's important to have
someone a perspective. Like, why do you always drag me in as
every team? Every time? I think I'm out. Y'all pull me back in
this is not because it's yard
look man,
just do right here. So when you when you look back at when you
look at like the fact that like, Kobe Bryant has won MVP
or, you know, we'll probably look back and think LeBron,
like, how do you only have four?
You know, how How's Jordan only have six, whatever, whatever,
right?
Scottie Pippen is one of the elite perimeter Defenders of
all time. Nobody
that's got any semblance of basketball knowledge disputes
that. So, it does feel like, oh, man, Scottie Pippen never
won a defensive player to you or
oh, man, that's that's that feels weird because he was
a great defender,
but it wasn't because people are fixated on Michael, Jordan.
You're fixating on Michael Jordan. He's more obsessed with
Michael Jordan that any of us could ever be. And I'm
the biggest Jordan sick of Alive,
I got Jordan everything head to toe
and I'm telling Scottie Pippen is the one that won't let it
go. Not to mention the people on One Defensive Player of
the Year during his career. It wasn't like they will scrubs.
It was like he was robbed many get your man's.
What's the best part of you?
Whose heart your Pistons? Took?
Yes, go ahead,
Riddle, Me riddle. Me. This Batman. Which direction do you
want me to go? Do you want me to go to the basketball or
the bitter, Betty?
Which one you want me to go? Bitter?
Let's go bitter. Go, get her. Go, bitter, cold, bitter.
Bitter first, then better first bitter first than basketball.
Scottie Pippen has never realized that if it weren't for
Michael Jordan, we wouldn't know who Scottie Pippen was.
He'll be just another.
Have decent play. If you put them
anywhere, other than Chicago, to start his career in
the middle of career anywhere, he would be just another dude. He
would not, he wouldn't even be, you know, what, you know, I got
it. I think about that was really, really good for
a period of time
and nobody talks about them
Sidney Moncrief.
Why? Because Sidney Moncrief didn't play next to
a Michael Jordan or next to
a Kareem or a magic. You just happened to be the dude
standing next to the do, see all these photos. We got, we
got Mike and we got Scott.
Why, you know, you know, you know, you don't have pictures
of Scotty, stand up by themselves because nobody took
a picture of Scotty by himself,
why I can Scotty one worth a damn.
That's why I went
great with his ungrateful ass.
It is
now we can go to basketball wise coming. Good basketball
the game back then was made for the big man. Do people not
remember that, you know, who want Defensive Player of
the Year,
David Robinson Hakeem Olajuwon guys like that, the 7-footers.
The guys who patrolled the lane
the only small Lord guys. That where's the list? Gary? Payton
100
beers Rodman, wanted twice but then it's not Mom Kris optional
rebounder in addition to being the best on-ball defender in
the game. That's what made him. So this is
interject real quick. These are the people who wanted during
Pippins Heyday. His Peak
Rodman Robinson.
You mentioned, Gary, Payton Elijah on Matumbo, Alonzo, Mourning.
You know, it's the same thing with MVP. So you got, you got
to take it from them that they didn't deserve it
because
he was great on defense. We can't. Can we also end. Can we
take an opportunity? I'ma be a Scottie Pippen true for here.
Can we also take the opportunity
to end this myth?
That people say all the time on certain platforms to prop up
LeBron or the prop up? Whoever the say? Well Michael Jordan
retired. The Bulls only
only wealth to fewer games because Scottie Pippen was
the MVP.
Let me introduce you to Sitting Bull. The, I remember Sitting
Bull
the guy who sat his ass down and game for the
conference, semifinals against the next,
you know, they couldn't get
a shot. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Because why? Because he couldn't get his own shot up.
The possession. Before Scotty people would never do who could
get his own shot. And in that year, you could name about 10
guys better than there
was never that was never a point in his career with
Scottie Pippen was a top-five player. Not one single. Damn
Year my
I think I think I think it no. No, I want to send to whom,
I would just send him to the couldn't get his own shot part.
I think that's a little bit of a stretch, but okay, he could
get his own shot, but that, but that's
what the part about that year.
I will say hindsight to
support your point about him not being a top five at any
point in his career. But that season with the numbers he was
putting up and maybe it was
trying to give Scott a his flowers if what he was doing
with our Jordan. Maybe the narrative took over. He was
getting MVP love
in the moment looking back. Maybe, I'm not arguing with
whether he was top five
in that era of all in that are. But at that, in that season,
Scottie, Pippen was the man in that season. He was killing it.
You know, my bad. I'm sorry. I got too many memories of Grant
Hill doing it every year as opposed to Scotty for doing it.
One year, my dad.
Listen,
I just said maybe it was. We were maybe we were falling over
ourselves to the gifts. Ready to love that. He thinks he was
being a knight and
stepchild white
in the words of the Remake that never came out for Mary Jane.
Faith Evans Love, Don't Live Here Anymore.
They really do.
They renamed it hard
and never came out. Did
that go on? You? Can we do about this? Go on YouTube? I go
on YouTube If I Were You.
Hey. Hey, you know what? He did though. You know what he won.
Italian MVP won that year.
All started off Target
and the words of Derrick Coleman. That's
what we
do.
All-Star game, MVP, but not your, he was never like,
I feel like y'all are like, One Missed to me to get me, riled
up, like, in lower pressure or play. Okay, he had to get my
blood pressure up and everything else. It was Isaiah,
Thomas
his birthday a couple days ago.
Jody is getting, you know, Executive Vice President and
y'all bring up Scottie Pippen. Like, when you get new, you
like to talk about besides Scottie Pippen
who you like, who you like quickly and Sons sounds Mavs.
Like the sounds in the series.
Toggle input like this. I will say that I think the sons of
win but what if Luca is going to pull LeBron in 2007
and just decide that, you know, we're not losing games. What
happens then?
Well, I wouldn't borrow this team. This this team is better
than that, though. That seems pretty good. That's The
Supporting Cast. He got it pretty damn good too. So
I'll you got what you got. You got. You
got three, guys that can get down shop.
That can get their only shot Vinnie.
You can get your old shot. We know that about you
vinegar will That's how gorgeous and you're in your old
bit, and your Tombstone could get his own shot. Is there
a greater compliment?
Then you could get your own shot. There is no greater
compliment.