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>> Jeanine: YOU MIGHT AS WELL
PUT THE PRESIDENT ON A MILK
CARTON BECAUSE JOE BIDEN IS
NOWHERE TO BE FOUND.
THE KING OF CALLING A LID HAS
BARELY BEEN SEEN IN PUBLIC THESE
DAYS.
BIDEN WILL DO JUST ABOUT
ANYTHING TO AVOID REPORTERS
WHERE HE CAN USE A TELEPROMPTER
OR CUE CARDS.
EVEN THE WHITE HOUSE DOESN’T
WANT TO TALK ABOUT HIS RECORD
LOW NEWS CONFERENCE.
>> APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.
WE HAD A JOINT PRESS CONFERENCE
JUST RECENTLY, SO THAT OCCURRED.
I DON’T HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE
ABOUT SPAIN AND THEIR TRAVELS.
IT IS A DIPLOMATIC CONVERSATION
THAT OCCURS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE DOING
HERE AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
I JUST DON’T HAVE ANYTHING MORE
TO SHARE ON THAT.
>> Jeanine: NOTHING MORE TO
SHARE.
THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN FOLLOWING A
SIMILAR STRATEGY OF KEY JOE
LOCKED UP.
JOE RODEN AND
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD ARE NOT
PLEASED.
>> YOU HAVE TO GO, WHO COULD DO
IT BETTER?
A REPUBLICAN OR A BETTER
DEMOCRAT AND IF IT IS NOT A
BETTER DEMOCRAT HOW ARE WE GOING
TO GET A BETTER DEMOCRAT IF YOU
DON’T LET THE PRESIDENT DEBATE?
IT IS NOT THAT DEMOCRATIC.
>> THE DNC WON’T DO NO
PRIMARIES.
JUST PUT JOE BIDEN ON THAT STAGE
WITH BOBBY KENNEDY WHO IS
CHALLENGING HIM AND MARIANNE
WILLIAMSON AND WHOEVER STEPS UP
TO THE PLAY WHO HAVE A [BLEEP]
DISCUSSION.
>> Jeanine: MAKES SENSE TO ME.
>> Jesse: YEAH, HE’S GOT TO
DEBATE.
HE WON’T, BUT HE HAS TO AND HE
SHOULD.
RK JR. IS POLLING AT 18%.
THAT IS NOT INSIGNIFICANT.
HE DOESN’T EVEN APPEAR ON
TELEVISION.
AND WHEN HE DOES APPEAR ON
TELEVISION, THEY EDIT HIM OUT.
HE IS A REAL THREAT TO THE BASE,
AND THEY ARE GOING TO COOK IT
JUST LIKE THEY DID AGAINST
BERNIE, AND IT IS CORRUPT.
TRUMP HAS TO DEBATE, TOO.
TRUMP CAN’T DUCK.
HE SAYS HE’S NOT GOING TO
DEBATE.
I THINK HE IS USING THAT AS
LEVERAGE.
HE SHOULD DEBATE, AS WELL.
BOTH OF THEM SHOULD DEBATE JUST
SO THEY CAN GET LOOSE FOR THE
REAL DEBATE BEFORE THE GENERAL.
JOE BIDEN ISN’T GOING TO
CAMPAIGN.
HE IS GOING TO MAY BE DUE LESS
THAN HE DID IN 2020, AND I DON’T
BLAME HIM, AND I DON’T BLAME HIS
PEOPLE FOR PUTTING HIM IN THAT
POSITION BECAUSE THEY ARE
ALLOWED TO CAMPAIGN FROM THE
BASEMENT BECAUSE THE MEDIA
ALLOWS THEM TO DO IT.
IT IS A CONSPIRACY BETWEEN THE
MEDIA AND THE WHITE HOUSE,
AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND
IT IS UP TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
TO SAY, ARE YOU GOING TO PUT UP
WITH IT?
>> Jeanine: YOU KNOW, KENNEDY,
WHAT AMAZES ME, HERE YOU HAVE
THIS WEAKLING, OKAY, THAT WE
CALL THE PRESIDENT, AND
EVERYBODY IS AFRAID TO COME OUT
AND SAY "I WANT TO RUN FOR
PRESIDENT."
GAVIN NEWSOM IS LIKE FOAMING AT
THE MOUTH TO RUN, AND YET IT IS
ALMOST LIKE THE GODFATHER.
IT IS LIKE, NO ONE WILL COME OUT
AGAINST HIM.
IS HE THAT STRONG?
OR IS IT THE PEOPLE BEHIND HIM?
>> Kennedy: IT IS THE DEMOCRAT
ESTABLISHMENT.
IT IS THE MACHINE.
IF YOU DARE STAND UP AGAINST
THAT, YOU WILL BE CONSUMED AND
EMULSIFIED.
AND THEY KNOW THAT.
THEY ARE ALL GOING TO WAIT FOR
THEIR TURN IN 2028.
GAVIN NEWSOM WOULD LOVE NOTHING
MORE THAN TO ELBOW KAMALA HARRIS
OUT OF THE WAY AND RUN FOR
PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE THINKS HE
HAS A VERY GOOD SHOT OF WINNING.
I SAW HIM LAST WEEKEND AT THE
PARTY THE NIGHT BEFORE THE
CORRESPONDENCE DINNER, I TOLD
HIM TO CUT TAXES IN
CALIFORNIA -- YOU’RE WELCOME,
CALIFORNIA, I DON’T THINK YOU
WILL LISTEN TO ME.
THEY WHOEVER CAN WIN ON THE
REPUBLICAN SIDE.
MY QUESTION IS WHEN
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE STANDS UP AND
SAYS, THE PRESIDENT JUST HAD A
PRESS CONFERENCE A COUPLE WEEKS
AGO.
WHERE HE TOOK TWO QUESTIONS THAT
WERE PREWRITTEN.
HE KNEW EXACTLY WHO WAS GOING TO
ASK WHAT.
THAT IS NOT A NEWS CONFERENCE
BUREAU I WANT TO SEE A
TRUMP-STYLE 75 MINUTE NO HOLDS
BARRED, NO QUESTIONS, PEOPLE
YELLING AT HIM PRESS CONFERENCE.
I WANT TO SEE IF HE CAN RESCAN
WITHSTAND THAT AND IF HE CAN, HE
WANTS FOR MORE CONFIDENCE IN HIS
VOTERS.
WHY IS THE PRESS SO CHUMMY WITH
THIS WHITE HOUSE?
THE OBVIOUSLY HATE THE PRESS AND
THEY SHOULD BE ADVERSARIAL.
>> Jeanine: HAROLD, I WANT YOU
TO LISTEN TO SYMONE SANDERS, WHO
COMES TO BIDEN’S DEFENSE ON THIS
NEED FOR A DEBATE.
>> THE REALITY IS THIS.
THE SITTING PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS A
DEMOCRAT, A DEMOCRAT THAT I
WOULD TO RUN FOR REELECTION, SO
MUCH SO THAT HE HAS DECLARED A
REELECTION CAMPAIGN.
IN THAT CASE, THE DEMOCRATIC
NATIONAL COMMITTEE WILL NOT
FACILITATE A PRIMARY PROCESS.
THERE WILL BE NO DEBATE STAGE
FOR BOBBY KENNEDY, MARYANN
WILLIAMS, OR ANYWHERE ELSE, THEY
ARE NOT GOING TO SET UP A
PRIMARY PROCESS FOR DEBATES FOR
SOMEONE TO CHALLENGE THE HEAD OF
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
>> Jeanine: WOW.
>> Harold: I THINK THE
PRESIDENT SHOULD SPEND MORE TIME
WITH THE MEDIA AND VOTERS AND
PROBABLY A THRESHOLD YOU HAVE TO
HAVE FOR THE PRESIDENT TO DEBATE
IN YOUR OWN PARTY AND CERTAINLY
THE DEBATE COMMISSION HAS A
THRESHOLD YOU HAVE TO MEET TO BE
ABLE TO GET ON THE DEBATE STAGE.
NOW, I THINK THE DEBATE
COMMISSION STRESS HOLD WAS 15%,
SO IT APPEARS THAT BOBBY KENNEDY
KENNEDY JR., FALLING
SOMEWHERE -- HE IS PULLING NORTH
OF 15%.
MARIANNE WILLIAMSON, I HAVE NOT
SEEN THE NUMBERS WHERE SHE IS
ABOVE 8% OR 9%.
I THINK THE TROUBLING THING FOR
THE WHITE HOUSE AND FOR THIS
PRESIDENT IS THIS: BOBBY KENNEDY
KENNEDY JR. IS A SERIOUS GUY BUT
I DO NOT VIEW HIM AS A SERIOUS
CANDIDATE FOR THE UNITED STATES.
MARIANNE WILLIAMSON IS A SERIOUS
PERSON, BUT SHE IS NOT SOMEONE I
WOULD CONSIDER VOTING FOR
PRESIDENT.
YET A QUARTER OF DEMOCRATIC
VOTERS ARE SIDING WITH THEM
AGAINST THIS PRESIDENT.
I THINK THE NEXT 4-8 WEEKS ARE
CRITICAL FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN AND
HIS TEAM, AND THE WAY I THINK
YOU COUNTER THIS IS YOU HAVE TO
GET OUT AND TALK ABOUT YOUR
RECORD, GET A POSITIVE MESSAGE,
REALLY GO OUT AND TALK ABOUT IT
BECAUSE IF YOU FIND 4-8 WEEKS
FROM NOW, ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.
AND MARIANNE WILLIAMSON STILL
PULLING ABOUT 25%, THAT IS WHEN
YOU ARE GOING TO SEE
GAVIN NEWSOM, THAT IS WHEN
YOU’RE GOING TO SEE
GRETCHEN WHITMER, I DON’T MEAN
TO LEAVE ANYBODY OUT, I THINK
YOU’RE GOING TO SEE PEOPLE SAY,
IF THEY CAN POLL HERE, IF PEOPLE
DON’T KNOW THEN THAT PEOPLE MAY
NOT TAKE THEM AS SERIOUSLY, WHY
DON’T I GET IN THIS RACE?
THIS IS WHY I THINK IT IS
CRITICAL THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN
AND HIS TEAM GET IN FRONT OF THE
MEDIA, GET HIM IN FRONT OF
VOTERS COME AND GET HIM OUT
THERE WITH HIS MESSAGE.
>> Jeanine: GREG, WE KNOW THEY
ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE
THEY CANNOT TRUST THIS MAN IN
FRONT OF THE PUBLIC WITHOUT A
CUE CARD.
ALL RIGHT, SO LET’S TALK ABOUT,
WHETHER 4-6 WEEKS, IT DOES NOT
MATTER.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS, YOU HAVE A
GUY WHO BARELY ANNOUNCED, WHO
HAS 18%, 19%.
WHO ARE THEY TO SAY, WHILE GO,
HE IS THE HEAD OF THE PARTY?
THIS ISN’T RUSSIA.
>> Greg: RFK JR. WOULD DESTROY
JOE BIDEN.
AND HE IS MY SECOND FAVORITE JR.
[LAUGHTER]
THERE IS -- THERE IS A TREND
HERE, RIGHT?
THIS ADMINISTRATION IS A VACUUM
BECAUSE WHEREVER YOU GO, A
VACUUM HAS BEEN MADE, A VACUUM
IN CRIME LEADERSHIP, A VACUUM IN
EDUCATION, THERE IS A VACUUM IN
THE OVAL OFFICE.
WE ARE EXPERIENCING THIS
EMPTYING OUT OF ORDER,
STRUCTURE, COMMON SENSE.
WHAT IS A WOMAN?
WE ARE LIKE WATCHING THINGS KIND
OF DRAIN OUT.
THE FEELING IS YOU EITHER HAVE
TO STEP UP OR YOU HAVE TO LEAVE.
KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE
SUBWAY, AND IT IS WHAT HAS
HAPPENING IN THE EDUCATION.
HOME SCHOOLING OR TUTORING.
IT IS NOT LIKE AMERICA NEEDS A
MICROMANAGING PRESIDENT, BUT YOU
HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY WITH A
BRAINSTEM WHO CAN KIND OF LEAD
AND ADDRESS SERIOUS PROBLEMS.
THE PERFECT EXAMPLE, I ALWAYS GO
BACK TO THE STORY BECAUSE WHEN
YOU’RE NOT ENGAGED, FOR EXAMPLE,
NOT ENGAGED IN IMMIGRATION, YOU
CAN BE EASILY TRICKED.
THAT IS WHAT WE SAW.
WE KNOW WHENEVER HE TALKS ABOUT
A STORY THAT HE JUST HEARD ABOUT
FROM SOMEONE READ TO HIM, HE IS
ALWAYS EASILY TRICKED.
HE ALWAYS HAS THE WRONG TAKE.
YOU CAN’T HAVE THAT PERSON
RUNNING THIS COUNTRY ANYMORE.
EVEN THOUGH I DISAGREE WITH RFK
ON A LOT, I THINK HIS EARLY
STANCES ON VACCINES, HE IS A
SERIOUS PERSON.
HE REALLY, TRULY IS.
>> Harold: I THINK HE IS
SERIOUS, I DON’T CONSIDER HIM
SERIOUS FOR THE PRESIDENCY.
>> Jeanine: BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
THE TEST THAT ISN’T THE TEST.
TEST AS HE IS 15%, LET HIM GO.
>> Harold: HE SHOULD DEBATE
HIM.