DAGEN.
>> DAGEN: THANK YOU SO MUCH,
BLAKE BERMAN AT THE WHITE HOUSE
FOR US.
JOINING US NOW, FORMER DEPUTY
CHIEF OF STAFF, KARL ROVE.
YOUR REACTION TO THE ESCALATIONS
IN SYRIA AND THE CAREFULNESS.
THIS GOES BACK TO YOUR
EXPERIENCE WITH THE WEAPONS OF
MASS DESTRUCTION IN IRAQ, THE
CARE AND PATIENCE WE MIGHT BE
USEING TO
AREING TO
ARE UG TO
ARE USITO
ARE USING
IN VERIFYING THIS.
>> CORE LIEN
>> CHLE LIEN
>> CHLORLIEN
>> CHLORINEN
>> CHLORINE GAS TENDS TO
DISSIPATE AND THE TRACES CAN BE
WIPED AWAY WITH THE PASSAGE OF
TIME.
THAT'S WHY THE RUSSIANS WERE
INTENT ON STOPPING INTERNATIONAL
INSPECTORS FROM COMING TOGETHER.
IT'S ALMOST LAUGHABLE THAT THE
RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTER WOULD
SAY THE THINGS THEY'VE SAID
AFTER THEY VETOED A MEASURE AT
THE UNITED NATIONS WHICH WOULD
PUT INTERNATIONAL INSPECTORS IN
IMMEDIATELY.
BUT LOOK, THE ADMINISTRATION IS
APPROACHING THIS PATIENTLY.
THEY'RE APPROACHING IT
THOROUGHLY.
THEY ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING
IN REACHING OUT TO ALLIES.
ALREADY THE FRENCH AND THE
UNITED KINGDOM HAVE LET THE
UNITED STATES KNOW THAT THEY
WILL ACT IN CONCERT, IF ACTION
IS REQUIRED.
AND THEY'RE BACKING IT UP.
ON THE 11th THE BATTLE GROUP
HARRY S. TRUE MAN, THE
HARRY S. TRUE MANMATHE
HARRY S. TRUE MANMAN,E
HARRY S. TRUE MANMAN, -- TRUMAN,
THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER, A
VESSEL WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST
EFFECTIVE AIR DEFENSE VESSELS IN
THE WORLD, IS ACCOMPANYING THE
BATTLE GROUP TO THE EASTERN
TRAINAN.
THERE WILL BE A --
MEDITERRANEAN.
THERE WILL BE A LOT OF FIRE
POWER THERE, FIRE POWER TO
DELIVER MISSILE STRIKES ON
SYRIAN MILL YOU TRI
INSTALLATIONS AND THE ABILITY TO
PROTECT THE VESSELS.
THE RUSSIANS ARE SAYING IF YOU
ATTACK SYRIA, WE'LL ATTACK BACK.
THEY'RE TAKING A LOT OF
PRECAUTIONS ON THIS ONE.
>> DAGEN: IT IS WORTH POINTING
OUT THAT IT WAS THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION, THE PREVIOUS ADD
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ADMINISTRATION, THEN SECRETARY
OF STATE JOHN CAREY, WHO
BROKERED A DEAL WITH THE U.N.
INSTEAD OF TAKING MILITARY
ACTION.
THEY PUT RUSSIA IN CHARGE OF
BEING THE DEAL GUARANTOR THAT
WAS INKED AT THE U.N. TO REMOVE
THE CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
JOHN CAREY HAD THE GUMPTION TO
GO ON NATIONAL TV AND SAY THAT
100% OF THE WE PONS HAVE
100% OF WHE WE PONS HAVE
100% OF WEA WE PONS HAVE
100% OF WEAPOE PONS HAVE
100% OF WEAPONSPONS HAVE
100% OF WEAPONS HNS HAVE
100% OF WEAPONS HAVEHAVE
100% OF WEAPONS HAVE BVE
100% OF WEAPONS HAVE BEEN
REMOVED FROM SYRIA.
THE FACT THAT RUSSIA PLAYS A
ROLE IN THIS IS RELATED TO IN
PART THE PREVIOUS
ADMINISTRATION'S MISTAKES.
>> IT WAS PRESIDENT OBAMA WHO
SAID ORIGINALLY IF SYRIA USES
CHEMICAL WEAPONS ON ITS OWN
PEOPLE, IT CROSSES A RED LINE.
AND THEN WHEN THEY DID USE
CHEMICAL WEAPONS, NOT ONCE, NOT
TWICE, BUT ON NUMEROUS
OCCASIONS, THE UNITED STATES'
RESPONSE WAS WEAK AND
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, IN 1972
THE RUSSIANS WERE KICKED OUT OF
THE MIDDLE EAST BY THEIR LAST
CLIENT RELATIONSHIP, EGYPT, AND
THEY CAME BACK IN WITH SYRIA AND
THE ACTION BY SECRETARY CAREY IN
GIVING THEM A FORMAL ROLE IN
HELPING SUPPOSEDLY GET RID OF
THE GAS SUPPLIES OF THE SYRIAN
GOVERNMENT SORT OF FORMALLY
ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE RUSSIANS
HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY IN THE
MIDDLE EAST AND THEY'RE NOT
ACTING ON OUR BEHALF.
THEY'RE ACTING CONTRARY TO OUR
INTEREST AND THE INTEREST OF OUR
ALLIES IN THE REGION BECAUSE
THAT'S THEIR GOAL AND THAT'S
THEIR MISSION, NOT BECAUSE IT'S
ACCIDENTAL.
>> DAGEN: I WANT TO MOVE ON TO A
POSSIBLE PRESIDENTIAL PARDON.
FOX NEWS IS REPORTING THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS LIKELY TO
PARDON LOUIS SCOOTER LIBBY
TODAY, THE FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF
TO VICE PRESIDENT DICK CHENEY.
HE WAS CONVICTED OF LYING TO THE
FBI AND OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE
IN CONNECTION WITH A NAME BEING
LEAKED TO THE PRESS.
HIS SENTENCE WAS COMMUTED BY
YOUR FORMER BOSS.
DO YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD
MOVE?
I CAN CONNECT THIS CASE TO JIM
COMEY, THE BIG BOY SCOUT WHO IS
HOCKING A BOOK AND THE EXCESS
AND ABUSE OF POWER THAT YOU SAW
EVEN BY JIM COMEY, EVEN BEFORE
HE BECAME THE FBI DIRECTOR.
>> WELL, A MINOR CORRECTION.
I DON'T THINK SCOOTER WAS GUILTY
OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
IT WAS LYING TO FEDERAL
OFFICIALS.
I HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF
THIS.
YOU MAY REMEMBER --
>> DAGEN: YES.
>> JIM COMEY APPOINTED JOHN ASH
-- JOHN ASHCROFT RECUSED
HIMSELF.
I WAS JOHN ASHCROFT'S CAMPAIGN
CONSULTANT IN PREVIOUS CASES.
JAMES COMEY APPOINTED PATRICK
FITZGERALD TO INVESTIGATE THE
VALERIE PLAIN MATTER.
PATRICK FITZGERALD NEW HER NAME
WAS NOT LEAKED BY EITHER SCOOTY
LIBBY OR ME AND ALSO KNEW THAT
THE PERSON WHO HAD LEAKED IT, A
FORMER UNDERSECRETARY OF
STATE, RICHARD ARMITAGE DID NOT
VIOLATE ANY LAW WHEN HE LEAKED
THE NAME.
FOR YEARS, HE WAS INTENT UPON
GETTING UPHELD.
HE WENT AFTER ME AND HE WENT
AFTER SCOOTERND A
AFTER SCOOTER A A
AFTER SCOOTER AND SCOOTER WAS
ILL TREATED BY THE JUSTICE
SYSTEM AND HIS LAWYERS WHO I
THOUGHT DID A TERRIBLE JOB ON
HIS BEHALF.
THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN I
THINK BOB MUELLER WHO I THINK IS
NOT OUT AFTER A PELT.
HE'S GOING TO DO -- HE'S GOING
TO FOLLOW WHERE THE FACTS LEAD
HIM, AS OPPOSED TO PATRICK
FITZGERALD WHO WAS INTENT UPON
GETTING SOMEBODY, INDICTING
SOMEBODY, HAVING SOMETHING TO
SHOW FOR THE TENS OF MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS AND YEARS HE SPENT
TRYING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF
THIS THING.
JIM COMEY WAS THERE AT THE
BEGINNING.
I REMEMBER THE NEWS CONFERENCE
WHERE HE PROCLAIMED THAT PATRICK
FITZGERALD WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME
TO HIM FOR ANYTHING, NOT EVEN
PAPER SUPPLIES AND POST-IT
NOTES, FITZGERALD FULL SPEED
AHEAD AND A GOOD MAN WAS HURT
BADLY IN THIS AND IT SHOULDN'T
HAVE HAPPENED.
>> DAGEN: THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE OF
LITERALLY HOW JIM COMEY AND
ABUSE OF POWER RUINED PEOPLE'S
LIVES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PRESS
CONFERENCE WHEN JIM COMEY WAS
STANDING UP THERE ALL THOSE
YEARS AGO, THAT HE TALKED ABOUT
PATRICK FITZGERALD AS BEING THE
FATHER
GOTHER
GODFER
GODFATHER OF ONE OF HIS CHILDREN
AND THE APPARENT CONFLICT OF
INTEREST THAT WAS IN THAT.
I HOPE AS HE IS PROMOTING THIS
BOOK, I HOPE HE'S ASKED ABOUT
SOME OF THIS, A HIGHER LOYALTY.
HIS LOYALTY IS TO HIMSELF.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY SHOULD GO
BACK THAT FAR BUT AGAIN, I COULD
GO TO FRANK QUATTRONE, THE
PROSECUTION OF SCOOTER LIBBY.
IT WAS FITZGERALD'S
INVESTIGATION, JUDITH MILLER AT
THE NEW YORK TIMES WAS IN JAIL
FOR 85 DAYS BECAUSE SHE WOULDN'T
GIVE UP HER SOURCES.
>> WELL, AS YOU KNOW, JUDITH
MILLER LATER TESTIFIED SHE HAD
BEEN MISLED BY THE PROSECUTORS
AND SHE HAD EVIDENCE THAT WAS EX
CULL PA TORI TO -- EXCULPATORY
TO SCOOTER LIBBY.
JIM COMEY TO MY MIND DID
SOMETHING VERY DANGEROUS AND
VERY WRONG IN JULY OF 2016 WHEN
HE TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF TO MAKE
THE DETERMINATION THAT HILLARY
CLINTON SHOULDN'T BE CHARGED.
SINCE THE BEGINNING OF OUR
COUNTRY, WE HAVE DIVORCED THE
PROSECUTORIAL DECISION FROM THE
INVESTIGATIVE ACTION.
IT IS UP TO PROSECUTORS TO
DECIDE WHETHER CHARGES SHOULD
APPLY.
HE HAD NO AUTHORITY UNDER OUR
STATUTES OR PROCEDURES TO MAKE
THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO
CHARGE HILLARY CLINTON.
THAT WAS A DECISION OF THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
AND IF LORETTA LYNCH, THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL, HAD TO RECUSE
HERSELF BECAUSE OF THE TARMAC
MEETING WITH BILL CLINTON IN
PHOENIX, IT WAS UP TO THE NUMBER
TWO AT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO
MAKE THAT DECISION.
IT SHOULD SCARE EVERY AMERICAN
THAT JIM COMEY AS A LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL DECIDED IT
WAS HIS DECISION.
HE HAD NO RIGHT TO DO THAT.
HE HAD NO RIGHT TO TRASH HER IN
HIS NEWS CONFERENCE AS HE DID.
>> DAGEN: ARE YOU GOING TO READ
THE BOOK?
>> NO.
I DON'T INTEND TO ENRICH HIM.
I THINK HE'S A HOT DOG.
I DON'T INTEND TO PARTICIPATE.
>> DAGEN: THAT'S A MIC DROP,