NEWS AMERICA, KATTY KAY. CO-HOST OF SHOWTIME’S "THE
CIRCUS" AND EDITOR IN CHIEF OF
"THE RECOUNT," JOHN HEILEMANN.
LET’S SHOW YOU HOW THIS ALL
PLAYED OUT, AS THE PRESIDENT
UNDERMINED HIS TOP MEDICAL
EXPERTS ON STAGE.
ONCE AGAIN, THEY’RE BEING FORCED
TO PUSH BACK HARD AGAINST
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S LATEST
SUGGESTIONS FOR TREATING THE
CORONAVIRUS.
CORONAVIRUS. ONE OF WHICH INCLUDED, STAY WITH
ME HERE, INJECTING PEOPLE WITH
DISINFECTANT.
DISINFECTANT. THE PRESIDENT’S IDEAS, WHICH
WERE PROREJECTED BY EXPERTS IN T
BRIEFING ROOM WITH HIM, CAME
AFTER A HOMELAND SECURITY
OFFICIAL PRESENTED RESEARCH THAT
FOUND DISINFECTANTS, HEAT AND
HUMIDITY, KILLED THE VIRUS ON
SURFACES AND IN THE AIR.
>> SO SUPPOSING WE HIT THE BODY
WITH A TREMENDOUS, WHETHER IT’S
ULTRAVIOLET OR JUST VERY
POWERFUL LIGHT, AND I THINK YOU
SAID THAT HAS NOT OPINION
CHECKED BUT YOU’RE GOING TO
CHECK IT.
CHECK IT. I SAID SUPPOSING YOU BROUGHT THE
LIGHT INSIDE THE BODY, WHICH YOU
CAN DO, EITHER THROUGH THE SKIN
OR IN SOME OTHER WAY, AND I
THINK YOU SAID YOU’RE GOING TO
TEST THAT, TOO.
SOUNDS INTERESTING.
SOUNDS INTERESTING. THEN THE DISINFECTANT KNOCKS IT
OUT IN A MINUTE, ONE MINUTE.
IS THERE A WAY WE CAN DO
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BY
INJECTION INSIDE OR ALMOST A
CLEANING.
CLEANING. YOU SEE IT GETS IN THE LUNGS,
AND IT DOES A TREMENDOUS NUMBER
ON THE LUNGS.
INTERESTING TO CHECK THAT.
YOU’LL HAVE TO USE MEDICAL
DOCTORS WITH, BUT IT SOUNDS
INTERESTING TO ME.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT SUMMER.
MAYBE THIS IS ONE OF THE
REASONS.
REASONS. I ONCE MENTIONED THAT MAYBE IT
DOES GO AWAY WITH HEAT AND
LIGHT.
LIGHT. PEOPLE DIDN’T LIKE THAT
STATEMENT VERY MUCH.
THE FAKE NEWS DIDN’T LIKE IT AT
ALL.
ALL. I JUST THREW IT OUT AS A
SUGGESTION.
SUGGESTION. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT’S THE CASE.
>> IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE FOR
US TO SAY THAT WE FEEL THAT THE
SUMMER IS JUST GOING TO TOTALLY
KILL THE VIRUS, AND THAT IT’S A
FREE-FOR-ALL, AND PEOPLE IGNORE
THE GUIDANCE.
THE GUIDANCE. THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
>> THE PRESIDENT MENTIONED THE
IDEA ABOUT CLEANER, BLEACH.
THERE’S NO SCENARIO THAT THAT
COULD BE INJECTED INTO A PERSON,
IS THERE?
IS THERE? I MEAN --
I MEAN -- >> NO.
>> NO. I’M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE
FINDINGS WE HAVE IN THE STUDY.
WE DON’T DO THAT WITHIN OUR LAB,
AT OUR LABS.
>> I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SPEAK TO
THE MEDICAL DOCTORS, TO SEE IF
THERE IS ANY WAY YOU CAN APPLY
LIGHT AND HEAT TO CURE.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN.
MAYBE YOU CAN, MAYBE YOU CAN’T.
I SAY, MAYBE YOU CAN, MAYBE YOU
CAN’T.
CAN’T. I’M NOT A DOCTOR.
I’M A PERSON THAT HAS A GOOD
YOU-KNOW-WHAT.
YOU-KNOW-WHAT. DEBORAH, YOU EVER HEARD OF THAT,
THE HEAT AND THE LIGHT RELATIVE
TO -- CERTAIN VIRUSES, YES, BUT
RELATIVE TO THIS VIRUS?
>> NOT AS A TREATMENT.
CERTAINLY, FEVER IS A GOOD THING
WHEN YOU HAVE A FEVER.
IT HELPS YOUR BODY RESPOND.
I’VE NOT SEEN HEAT OR LIGHT.
>> I THINK IT IS A GREAT THING
TO LOOK AT.
OKAY.
OKAY. >> RESPECTFULLY, SIR, YOU’RE THE
PRESIDENT, AND PEOPLE TUNING
INTO THESE BRIEFINGS, THEY WANT
TO GET INFORMATION AND GUIDANCE
AND WANT TO KNOW WHAT TO DO.
>> HEY.
>> HEY. >> THEY’RE NOT LOOKING FOR --
>> I’M THE PRESIDENT, AND YOU’RE
FAKE NEWS.
FAKE NEWS. YOU KNOW WHAT I’LL SAY TO YOU?
I’LL SAY NICELY, I KNOW YOU
WELL, BECAUSE I KNOW THE GUY, I
SEE WHAT HE WRITES, HE’S A TOTAL
FAKER.
FAKER. ARE YOU READY?
ARE YOU READY?
IT’S JUST A SUGGESTION FROM A
BRILLIANT LAB BY A VERY, VERY
SMART, PERHAPS BRILLIANT MAN.
HE’S TALKING ABOUT SUN.
HE’S TALKING ABOUT HEAT.
YOU SEE THE NUMBERS.
THAT’S IT.
THAT’S IT. THAT’S ALL I HAVE.
I’M JUST HERE TO PRESENT TALENT.
I’M HERE TO PRESENT IDEAS.
BECAUSE WE WANT IDEAS TO GET RID
OF THIS THING.
IF HEAT IS GOOD, AND IF SUNLIGHT
IS GOOD, THAT’S A GREAT THING AS
FAR AS I’M CONCERNED.
>> I GUESS IF YOU COULD COLLAPSE
THE PAST COLLIETHREE AND A HALF
OF MADNESS INTO ONE CLIP --
>> THAT’D BE IT.
>> -- THAT MIGHT BE THE CLIP.
>> THAT’S WHEN FOX NEWS OR SEAN
HANNITY WENT CRAZY ON YOU,
COULDN’T BRING HIMSELF TO START
WITH THAT.
WITH THAT. >> HE’S BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS.
HE’S GOT THIS STRANGE OBSESSION.
I HOPE, FOR HIS SAKE, HE GETS
PAST IT.
PAST IT. >> THEY HAD TO FILL TIME WITH
SOMETHING BEYOND THAT RIDICULOUS
CLAIM BY THE PRESIDENT, THAT HE
WASTED EVERYBODY’S TIME WITH.
YOU SAW DR. BIRX.
RON FOURNIER HAD THE GREATEST
TWEET, WATCH HER SOUL SLOWLY
DIE.
DIE. SHE WAS SO DISGUSTED WITH HIM.
>> SO MUCH RESPECT FOR DR. BIRX
AND DR. FAUCI.
THEY’RE HANGING IN THERE, TRYING
TO SAVE LIVES.
WILLIE, I KNEW GROWING UP THAT,
WITH MY CHILDREN, THAT IF I
WOULD USE SCRUBBING BUBBLES TO
CLEAN THE BATHTUB BEFORE --
>> DON’T EAT THEM.
>> -- THEY GOT IN THERE.
I WOULD NOT SPRAY IT IN MY
CHILDREN’S MOUTH OR MY OWN
MOUTH, IF I HAD A FEVER OR
DISEASE.
DISEASE. THIS IS SO BEYOND MADNESS.
YOU HAVE AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT
SAYING SUCH THINGS ABOUT PUTTING
DISINFECTANT IN THE BODY,
PUTTING LIGHT IN THE BODY.
IT IS SO BEYOND PARODY.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> IF YOU WROTE THIS FOR, LET’S
SAY, "VEEP," NOBODY WOULD
BELIEVE IT.
BELIEVE IT. AGAIN, NOT FUNNY BECAUSE BY
PROBABLY THE END OF THIS MONTH,
MORE PEOPLE WILL HAVE DIED FROM
THIS CORONAVIRUS, THAT DONALD
TRUMP SAID WOULD GO AWAY.
SAID IT WAS A HOAX.
THE MEDIA’S COVERAGE OF IT WAS A
HOAX.
HOAX. SEAN HANNITY SAID THE MEDIA’S
COVERAGE OF IT WAS A HOAX.
MORE PEOPLE WILL BE DEAD OF THIS
SO-CALL ED
SO-CALL ED SO-CALLED HOAX THE MEDIA WAS
PUSHING, ACCORDING TO SEAN
HANNITY AND DONALD TRUMP, THAN
DIED IN THE VIETNAM WAR, OVER
THE NEXT WEEK.
WE’LL PROBABLY GO BEYOND 57,000.
AGAIN, THE FACT THAT WE’RE NEAR
THE END OF APRIL, AFTER LOSING
TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
>> 50,000 LIVES.
>> AFTER MORE LIVES HAVE BEEN
LOST HERE THAT BE WEREN WERE LOS
IRAQ WARS, THE AFGHANISTAN WAR,
SEPTEMBER 11th, THE
REVOLUTIONARY WAR, THE WAR OF --
I COULD STACK THEM UP.
DONALD TRUMP IS NOW AT THE POINT
OF TALKING ABOUT PUTTING
DISINFECTANTS INSIDE YOUR BODY
AND PUTTING LIGHTS IB SIDE
PEOPLE
PEOPLE INSIDE PEOPLE’S BODIES, TO THE
EMBARRASSMENT OF THOSE AIDSES
SITTING ON THE SIDELINES,
LISTENING TO THIS HORROR SHOW
UNFOLD BEFORE THEIR EYES.
>> AS WE SIT HERE, AND I LISTEN
TO YOU LAY IT OUT, I CANNOT
BELIEVE WE’RE HAVING THIS
CONVERSATION.
CONVERSATION. IT’S NOT ONLY EMBARRASSING AND
DANGEROUS, BUT AS YOU SAY, IT’S
A MONUMENTAL WASTE OF TIME.
A FEW HOURS BEFORE THE PRESIDENT
GOT UP THERE, WE LEARNED THAT
4.5 MILLION MORE MESHAMERICANS L
THEIR JOBS IN THE LAST WEEK.
WE DON’T HAVE A NATIONAL TESTING
PROGRAM.
PROGRAM. WE DON’T HAVE ALL THE THINGS
THAT MEDICAL EXPERTS, PUBLIC
HEALTH EXPERTS SAY WE NEED TO
GET THROUGH THIS.
AND THE PRESIDENT IS TALKING
ABOUT INJECTING DISINFECTANT
SBOOS
SBOOS INTO AMERICANS’ BODIES TO CURE
CORONAVIRUS.
CORONAVIRUS. SOMEHOW GETTING LIGHT INSIDE
THEIR BODIES.
THEIR BODIES. I WAS THINKING ABOUT DR. BIRX AS
YOU PLAYED THAT.
SHE SPENT HER LIFE FIGHTING
INFECTIOUS DISEASES, LEADING THE
FIGHT AGAINST HIV AROUND THE
WORLD, SPENDING HER LIFE IN
THESE SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS.
SHE HAS TO ACTUALLY ENTERTAIN
THE IDEA OF THE MOST POWERFUL
MAN IN THE WORLD, IN FRONT OF
THE TV CAMERAS, TURNING AND
SAYING, "WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT
THIS?"
THIS?" SHE HAS TO SAY, "WELL, IT’S NOT
AS A TREATMENT.
WE CAN’T TREAT PEOPLE BY
INJECTING DISINFECTANT AND LIGHT
INTO THEIR BODIES."
SHE HAD TO SAY IT PUBLICLY.
ANOTHER EXPERT, HEALTH POLICY
EXPERT WHO HAS BEEN ON THE SHOW,
VIN GUPTA SAID, QUOTE, THIS
NOTION OF INJECTING OR INGESTING
ANY CLEANSING PRODUCT INTO THE
BODY IS IRRESPONSIBLE, AND IT IS
DANGEROUS.
DANGEROUS. IT IS A COMMON METHOD THAT
PEOPLE UTILIZE WHEN THEY WANT TO
KILL THEMSELVES.
KILL THEMSELVES. THAT’S A QUOTE, JOHN HEILEMANN,
FROM DR. VIN GUPTA, A LEADING
PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERT AND
EMERGENCY ROOM DOCTOR TREATING
CORONAVIRUS PATIENT HIMSELF.
I DON’T HAVE A QUESTION, JOHN,
BUT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS OF
WHAT YOU SAW UP THERE YESTERDAY?
>> WELL, YOU’VE HIT THE HIGH
NOTES, OR THE LOW NOTES.
IT IS BEYOND -- YOU KNOW, THERE
IS A SURREAL QUALITY TO IT.
IT’S NOT EVEN LIKE AN EPISODE OF
"VEEP" ANYMORE.
"VEEP" ANYMORE. IT REALLY IS TALKING ABOUT
CARTOON PARODIES AT THIS POINT.
"THE SIMPSONS" YOU PLAYED I
THINK WAS RIGHT.
HERE’S THE SERIOUS THING, A VERY
BASIC THING, RIGHT?
THINK ABOUT HOW COMPLETELY
DIVORCED FROM REALITY THE
PRESIDENT IS.
PRESIDENT IS. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE
BEGINNING OF THE WEEK.
SITTING HERE ON FRIDAY.
ON MONDAY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES STOOD UP AND SAID,
AS HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE
OVERALL DEATH TOLL FROM THIS
PANDEMIC, HE SAID THAT, YOU
KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN ALL IS
SAID AND DONE, WE’RE PROBABLY
GOING TO BE AT 50,000, MAYBE
60,000 WHEN ALL IS SAID AND
DONE, WHEN IT IS ALL OVER.
50,000, 60,000.
50,000, 60,000. THAT’S WHAT HE SAID MONDAY.
IT’S FRIDAY, AND WE’RE AT
50,000.
50,000. THE PRESIDENT APATIENTPARENTLY D
KNOW EVEN THE BASIC REALITY OF
HOW MANY AMERICANS HAVE DIED.
YOU COULD NEVER HAVE SAID ON
MONDAY, KNOWING WE WERE ALREADY
IN THE 40,000s OF DEATHS, THAT
YOU THOUGHT THE TOTAL NUMBER
FROM THE PANDEMIC WOULD BE
50,000, MAYBE 60,000.
WE’RE GOING TO PASS THE 50,000
THRESHOLD TODAY.
THRESHOLD TODAY. I MEAN, SHORT OF A MIRACLE,
WE’RE GOING TO PASS THE 60,000
THRESHOLD SOMETIME NEXT WEEK.
THE PRESIDENT IS UTTERLY
DIVORCED FROM ALL OF THESE
REALITIES.
REALITIES. THEN YOU GET TO THE DELUSION.
AND I DO THINK, WILLIE, TO YOUR
POINT, IT HAS BEEN AN ONGOING
QUESTION THROUGHOUT, SINCE
DONALD TRUMP HAS STARTED TAKING
THE PODIUM FOR A COUPLE HOURS A
DAY, 90 MINUTES A DAY, NOW OVER
A MONTH HE’S OPINION DOINGBEEN D
JOE SCARBOROUGH HAS ASKED THIS
QUESTION, WHY DO THE NETWORKS
TAKE THESE RAMBLINGS OF THE
PRESIDENT, THESE INSANE,
MISINFORMATION-FILLED RAMBLINGS?
MISINFORMATION-FILLED RAMBLINGS? MAYBE THERE’S A SYSTEM WE SHOULD
DEVISE COLLECTIVELY AS A NEWS
MEDIA.
MEDIA. NOT TO DENY THE PRESIDENT, BUT
NOT TAKE THEM LIVE.
HAVE A CHANCE TO FACT-CHECK THEM
AND VET THEM.
THE ARGUMENT FOR THAT IS TRIPLEY
STRONG.
STRONG. WE’RE NOT JUST GIVING HIM A
PLATFORM TO ADVANCE HIS
POLITICAL FORTUNES, BUT WHETHER
IT’S WITH HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE,
AND NOW WITH THESE NOTIONS OF
INGESTING DISINFECTANTS, THE
PRESIDENT’S MISINFORMATION IS
ACTIVELY ENDANGERING THE LIVES
OF AMERICANS WHO ARE WATCHING
HIM ON TELEVISION.
AMERICANS WHO FOLLOW THE
PRESIDENT’S MUSINGS, WHO FOLLOW
HIS INSTRUCTIONS, WHO FOLLOW THE
THINGS HE IS SAYING, ARE AT RISK
OF KILLING THEMSELVES.
I THINK THAT, GENUINELY, WE HAVE
TO HAVE A SERIOUS CONVERSATION
ABOUT, IF THE PRESIDENT IS GOING
TO BE SAYING THINGS LIKE THIS,
NOT JUST LYING, BUT LYING IN A
WAY THAT COULD KILL AMERICANS,
PEOPLE HAVE TO REALLY HAVE A
SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT
WHETHER IT IS RESPONSIBLE TO
CONTINUE TO ALLOW THE BROADCAST