BE EMERGENCY --
CHARLES: LET ME BREAK IN RIGHT
HERE.
WE HAVE BREAKING NEWS.
I THINK WE HAVE RESULTS TO SHARE
WITH THE AUDIENCE.
GOING BACK TO ASHLEY.
ASHLEY: CHARLES, IT DIDN'T TAKE
LONG, DID IT.
YES VOTES 202.
NO VOTES, 432.
IT GOES DOWN BY 230 VOTES,
ABSOLUTELY HUMILIATING,
EMBARRASSING DEFEAT FOR THE
PRIME MINISTER TONIGHT.
WE SUSPECTED IT COULD BE OVER
200 BUT THAT IS PROBABLY THE
WORST DEFEAT FOR A GOVERNMENT IN
MODERN UK POLITICAL HISTORY.
THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE SHAMBLES FOR
THE PRIME MINISTER.
WE NOW WAIT FOR HER.
SHE SAID SHE WOULD RESPOND
QUICKLY.
SHE WILL ADDRESS THE HOUSE OF
COMMONS AND THE COUNTRY.
WE GO FROM THERE.
AS I SAID BEFORE, CHARLES, SHE
WILL HAVE THREE WORKING DAYS TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.
GO BACK TO BRUSSELS PRESUMABLY
TOMORROW.
THIS HAS BEEN RESOUNDINGLY
THROWN BACK AT US.
SO CAN YOU GIVE ME ANYMORE
CONCESSIONS?
THE EU AS WE KNOW HAS SAID, THIS
IS THE BEST DEAL YOU'RE GOING TO
GET.
SO THIS BREXIT PARALYSIS GOES
ON.
THE LABOUR PARTY COULD NOW FILE
FOR A VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE IN
THE GOVERNMENT.
AND THAT ULTIMATELY COULD
TRIGGER A GENERAL ELECTION.
ALL SORTS OF SCENARIOS COULD
PLAY OUT.
BOTTOM LINE, CHARLES, A
HUMILIATING DEFEAT BY 230 VOTES.
THE HOUSES OF COMMONS HERE IN
THE UK HAVE SAID NO TO THERESA
MAY'S BREXIT PLAN.
BACK TO YOU.
CHARLES: ASHLEY, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
LET ME GET BACK TO OUR GUESTS.
SORRY WE HAD TO INTERRUPT YOU.
THIS IS HUGE.
HUGO, CONTINUE WITH YOU, NOW
WANT TO SHIFT INTO WHAT WE MAY
EXPECT FROM HERE.
SOME SCENARIOS HAVE GONE BACK TO
BRUSSELS, HAT IN HAND, LOOK AT
THE CARDS I HAVE BEEN DEALT.
YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH ME, GIVING
ME MORE CONCESSIONS OR A HARD
BREXIT.
IS, WILL THE DEAL GET SCUTTLED
THOUGH?
I THINK THAT IS THE QUESTION.
WILL THE ORIGINAL INTENTION OF
THE VOTERS BE SCUTTLED SOMEHOW?
>> THERE'S A STRONG POSSIBILITY
THAT IS WHAT THE PARLIAMENT WILL
TRY TO DO THAT, THERESA MAY WILL
TRY TO ENCOURAGE THAT.
THIS IS MASSIVE, MASSIVE DEFEAT.
NO WAY SHE CAN GO BACK TO
BRUSSELS TO GET ENOUGH THAT
WOULD OVERTURN THIS KIND OF
MAJORITY DEFEAT.
I THINK THERE IS, THERE SIN
CREASING CHANCE OF NO LEAVING
THE EU BUT THERE IS ALSO
INCREASING CHANCE OF A NO DEAL.
I THINK THAT ACTUALLY IS WHAT
THE BRITISH PEOPLE WOULD MUCH
PREFER.
YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT -- PROJECT
FEAR --
>> DISAGREE SLIGHTLY.
>> CAN I JUST FINISH IT.
PROJECT FEAR TURNED OUT TO BE
FALSE.
THE ONLY WAY DISASTER AFTER
NO-DEAL BREXIT WILL BE DISASTER
IF THE E UCONN TINS TO MAKE IT
AS PAINFUL AND UNCOMFORTABLE AS
POSSIBLE.
THERE IS NO REASON SHOULD BE AS
PAINFUL AS IT MIGHT BE.
CHARLES: JOHN?
>> WELL OF COURSE, IT WASN'T A
BREXIT VOTE.
IT WAS A BRINO VOTE.
BREXIT IN NAME ONLY.
SHE NEVER INTENDED BREXIT.
I SLIGHTLY DISAGREE WITH MY
HONORABLE FELLOW PANELIST I
THINK THE EUROPEAN UNION IS
DESPERATE TO KEEP ITS SECOND
LARGEST CONTRIBUTOR AND ECONOMY
IN.
SO I THAT THERE WILL BE MOVES
MADE, JUST SUFFICIENT TO SWAY
JUST SUFFICIENT MEMBERS IN THE
HOUSE ON TO HER SIDE.
THAT IS THE BIGGEST DANGER.
BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE REAL
UNDERHAND DEAL OF ALL TIME.
BUT I WOULDN'T BE AS CONFIDENT
AS MY FRIEND IS DISMISSING IT.
CHARLES: WHAT ABOUT SWEETENERS,
WHAT COULD THEY SWEETEN THIS
WITH THEY HAVE BEEN HOLDING BACK
ON?
>> ONE OF THE BIGGEST WOULD BE A
SWEETENER OVER THE IRISH BORDER
BECAUSE THAT WILL BRING IN,
NORTHERN IRISH MEMBERS FIRMLY ON
HER SIDE.
AND OTHERS WOULD BE TO DO
PARTICULARLY WITH THE LAW, THAT
THE BRITISH LAW IS NO LONGER
SUBJECT TO THE EUROPEAN LAW.
THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER BIG
SWEETENER THAT WOULD BE DONE.
I THINK THEY WOULD KEEP WITH
REGULATIONS AND EVERYTHING LIKE
THAT BUT THOSE TWO SWEETENERS IN
MY PERSONAL OPINION SWING OVER A
LOT OF PEOPLE IF COMBINED AS MY
FELLOW CONTRIBUTOR SAID WITH
INCENSEIFICATION WHICH I SEE NOW
OF OPERATION FEAR.
IT WILL BE REALLY PUMPED UP,
WITH A LOT MONEY TO DUPE THE
BRITISH PUBLIC IN PREPARATION
FOR A SECOND REFERENDUM.
HER ULTIMATE BETRAYAL OF THE
BRITISH PEOPLE AND I THINK
AMOUNTS TO TREASON.
CHARLES: GENTLEMEN, I WILL START
WITH YOU, HUGO, IS THERE A
CHANCE NOW, THERE IS NO
CONFIDENCE VOTE, CORBYN WAITING
IN THE WINGS TO TAKE OVER, SWOOP
IN, HOW LIKELY IS THAT, AND
THEN, HELP US UNDERSTAND THE
VERY NEXT STEPS THAT MAY HAPPEN
OVER THE NEXT 24 TO 4HOURS?
>> PERFECTLY POSSIBLE IF JEREMY
CORBIN WISHES TO FILE A NO
CONFIDENCE MOTION.
THE PROBABILITY IS HE WOULD LOSE
THAT.
THE ODD THING IS THAT ALTHOUGH
THE PARLIAMENT HAS NO CONFIDENCE
IN TRUTH IN THIS PRIME MINISTER,
AND SHE HAS BEEN HAPLESS AND
HOPELESS FOR A VERY LONG TIME,
THE CONSERVATIVE MPS ARE NOT
GOING TO WANT TO HAVE A NO
CONFIDENCE VOTE MOTION AND HELP
JEREMY CORBIN, WHO IS EXTREME
LEFT-WINGER TO BECOME THE PRIME
MINISTER.
THE LAST THING THEY WANT IN
THEIR CURRENT CONDITION IS TO GO
TO THE COUNTRY FOR AN ELECTION
WHICH IS NOT DUE FOR ANOTHER
THREE YEARS.
AND THE PROBABILITY IS, IF THEY
WERE TO DO THAT, THEN THE LABOUR
WOULD WIN AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE
A EXTREME LEFT-WINGER.
>> I AGREE WITH ONE PROVISO.
CHARLES: JOHN, HOLD ON ONE
SECOND.
BECAUSE BOTH YOU GUYS ARE ON THE
RIGHT TRACK.
I DO WANT TO SHARE WITH THE
AUDIENCE, AS YOU WERE TALKING,
HUGO, THE LABOUR LEADER DID CALL
FOR A NO CONFIDENCE VOTE.
WE'LL GET THAT AS EARLY AS
TOMORROW.
SO JOHN, WHERE DOES THAT TAKE
US?
OR IS THAT JUST THEATRICS?
>> I THINK IT'S A BIG MISTAKE AS
YOUR PANELIST WAS ALSO SAYING I
AGREE WITH HIM.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO
WAIT UNTIL MAY'S HAND IS MORE
FULLY DISCLOSED IN BETRAYING THE
BRITISH PEOPLE SEEKING TO
POSTPONE ARTICLE 50, FAILING TO
DISCOURAGE TALK OF A SECOND
REFERENDUM.
THAT WAS THE TIME FOR HIM TO
STRIKE BECAUSE EVEN DIEDED IN
WOOL CONSERVATIVES WOULD SO HATE
MAY AND BE SO FURIOUS AT HER
BETRAYAL OF THE COUNTRY,
TOLERATION OF SOCIALIST