>>> WE HAVE KNOWN THAT JARED KUSHNER IS CLOSE WITH SAUDI
CROWN PRINCE MOHAMMAD BIN
SALMAN, BUT NEW REPORTING IN
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" SHOWS US
JUST HOW CLOSE.
QUOTE, THE TWO MEN WERE ON A
FIRST NAME BASIS CALLING EACH
OTHER JARED AND MOHAMMED.
THE PIECE GOES OTHE EXCHANGES
CONTINUED AN EVEN AFTER THE
OCTOBER 2nd KILLING OF JAMAL
KHASHOGGI, THE SAUDI JOURNALIST.
IT GOES EVEN FURTHER.
KUSHNER HAS OFFERED THE CROWN
PRINCE ADVICE ABOUT HOW TO
WEATHER THE STORM URGING HIM TO
RESOLVE HIS CONFLICTS AROUND THE
REGION AND AVOID FURTHER
EMBARRASSMENTS.
EMBARRASSMENTS. EMBARRASSMENTS?
EMBARRASSMENTS? CHOPPING UP INTO LITTLE PIECES A
U.S. RESIDENT?
U.S. RESIDENT? >> IT’S ONLY EMBARRASSING IF YOU
GET CAUGHT.
GET CAUGHT. >> THIS IS EMBARRASSING.
>> THAT’S THE SAD PART.
>> IT’S A FABULOUS, LONG,
EXCRUCIATING ARTICLE IN "THE NEW
YORK TIMES" TALKING ABOUT A
POWER POINT PRESENTATION THAT
WAS GIVEN IN SAUDI ARABIA ABOUT
EXACTLY HOW TO GET INTO THE
INNER CIRCLE OF THE WHITE HOUSE.
AND SURPRISE, SURPRISE, IT’S
THIS NAIVE, COMPLETELY
UNEDUCATED IN FOREIGN AFFAIRS
YOUNG, YOU KNOW, FAMILY MEMBER
WHO ENDS UP BEING THE ROUTE TO
WHAT HAS BEEN AN ABSOLUTE
FOREIGN POLICY EMBARRASSMENT IS
OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH SAUDI
ARABIA.
ARABIA. SO YOU SEE THE PARALLELS BETWEEN
THE WAY THAT THEY GOT INTO JARED
KUSHNER AND THE WAY RUSSIA GOT
INTO DONALD TRUMP.
YOU SEE THE NAIVETY.
THE FACT THAT WE STILL HAVE
PRESIDENT TRUMP USING HIS
PERSONAL CELL PHONE AND THE
CHINESE AND RUSSIANS LISTENING
IN ALL THE TIME.
IT JUST GOES ON AND ON.
THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT FIT TO
LEAD.
LEAD. >> KIM, THERE’S A QUESTION A
FORMER INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL
RAISED WITH ME TODAY, AND IT’S
PIECE WHICH IS EXCEPTIONAL AND
INCREDIBLY DETAILED AND
CORROBORATED.
CORROBORATED. BUT WITH SO MANY OBVIOUS
DIFFERENT SOURCES AND DIFFERENT
STREAMS OF INFORMATION, BUT MBS
IS KNOWN TO USE WHATSAPP.
I’VE NEVER SEEN IT REPORTED OR
COMMUNICATED ANYWHERE HE USES A
DIFFERENT TYPE OF SERVICE.
THEY THOUGHT IT NECESSARY TO BE
PRESERVED FOR THE LAWS OF ALL
COMMUNICATIONS.
COMMUNICATIONS. >> THE PEOPLE USE WHATSAPP IS
FOR THAT END TO END ENCRYPTION
YOU CAN’T SEE.
I THINK THAT IS EXTRAORDINARY,
THE FACT THERE IS THIS DIRECT
LINE WITH A SENIOR WHITE HOUSE
OFFICIAL AND SOMEBODY WHO
MULTIPLE NATIONS HAVE DECIDED BY
THEIR INTELLIGENCE IS A COLD --
INCLUDING OUR OWN INTELLIGENCE
OFFICIALS IS A COLD-BLOODED
MURDERER.
MURDERER. I DON’T LIKE PLAYING THE IMAGINE
IF GAME BECAUSE IT’S NOT
HELPFUL.
HELPFUL. BUT IMAGINE IF I DON’T KNOW
VALERIE JARRETT WAS FOUND TO BE
TEXTING A COLD-BLOODED MURDERER
AND THE FALL OUT THAT WOULD HAVE
ENSUED.
ENSUED. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT HERE, AND IT’S NOT JUST
THE CONNECTION THERE.
ITES THE INROADS THAT SAUDI
ARABIA HAS MADE WITHIN THIS
WHITE HOUSE.
WHITE HOUSE. THEY ARE POLITICAL, THEY ARE
FINANCIAL.
FINANCIAL. IT’S REALLY EXTRAORDINARY.
>> VALERIE JARRETT WOULDN’T HAVE
BEEN IN THE CROWN PRINCE CLUB
THAT APPARENTLY -- OH, MY
MICROPHONE, I’M SORRY.
>> YOU CAN PICK UP FOR HIM.
>> IT’S A GOOD QUESTION.
WHEN YOU COME FROM A PURELY
TRANSACTIONAL BACKGROUND, WHEN
YOU’RE TRYING TO PUMP FINANCIAL
LIFE BACK INTO YOUR BUILDING ON
FIFTH AVENUE, WHEN YOU’RE TRYING
TO BLOCK AND TACKLE PEOPLE
WITHIN GOVERNMENT WHO ARE
ACTUALLY TRYING TO HELP THE
PRESIDENT, YOU KNOW, GO BACK TO
THE TRANSITION AND THINGS LIKE
THAT WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME
WITH GOODWILL WILL AND INTENT BU
THEY WERE BLOCKED AND KEPT AWAY
IT TELLS YOU THE INSULAR NATURE
OF THIS FAMILY RUN INTERPRIESZ
IS
IS IS DESIGNED TO REMAIN JUST THAT.
THIS IS JUST AN EXTENSION.
>> BUT ALL THEY ASK THEMSELVES
IS HOW CAN WE GET OVER?
WHAT LIE DO WE HAVE TO TELL TO
GET PAST THIS?
I LOVE THE WORD EMBARRASSMENT
PABEING USED IN MURDER OF THIS
GUY IN BROAD DAYLIGHT.
AND NOBODY IS HEARING ANY MORAL
ALARMS HERE BECAUSE GUESS WHAT,
NONE ARE BEING SOUNDED IN THIS
WHITE HOUSE EVER.
>> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE
PROSPECT OF THESE
COMMUNICATIONS, WHICH COULD BE
CENTRAL TO UNDERSTANDING
U.S.-SAUDI RELATIONS FOR A
GENERATION, POTENTIALLY BEING
LOST TO ALL WHITE HOUSE RECORDS?
>> WELL, YOU’RE ASSUMING THAT
THOSE COMMUNICATIONS HAVE
ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE
GOVERNANCE AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS
OF THE NATION WHEN IT COMES TO
SAUDI ARABIA.
SAUDI ARABIA. >> I’M SURE THEY DO.
WE KNOW THAT THEY DO BECAUSE THE
HE’S BEEN ADVISING HIM HOW TO
GET AROUND OUR OWN GOVERNMENT’S
POSITION OF HIM HAVING KILLED
KHASHOGGI.
KHASHOGGI. >> RIGHT, BUT THAT’S A
PARTICULAR CRIMINAL ACT THAT HAS
SERIOUS RAMIFICATIONS.
SERIOUS RAMIFICATIONS. BUT MORE BROADLY SPEAKING WE
TALK ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THE U.S. AND SAUDI
ARABIA, THE ONGOING
TRANSACTIONAL NATURE OF THAT
RELATIONSHIP, WHICH BY THE WAY
DOESN’T JUST START WITH THIS
ADMINISTRATION.
ADMINISTRATION. IT GOES BACK IN TIME, AND THAT’S
SOMETHING THAT THE SAUDIS HAVE
LEVERAGED TO THEIR ADVANTAGE.
AGAIN, BUT ALL OF THAT’S MISSED
IF YOU’RE DOING IT ENCRYPTED.
>> I THINK YOU’RE MAKING A
BIGGER POINT.
BIGGER POINT. WHO’S TO SAY THEY AREN’T ALSO