>> James: THAT WAS A CLIP FROM ZACH'S INCREDIBLE SHORT FILM
WHICH YOU CAN WATCH RIGHT NOW ON YOUTUBE, ON VIMEO AS A STAFF
PICK AND OMELETO CONGRATULATIONS ON THE FILM.
YOU WROTE THE FILM, COWROTE, DIRECTED THE MOVIE, PRODUCED THE
MOVIE FOR ANYONE THAT DOESN'T KNOW, TELL US WHAT IT IS ABOUT
AND WHY YOU WANTED TO TELL THIS TOR SEE.
>> SURE T IS A SHORT FILM ABOUT THIS LITTLE GIRL WHO IS
CELEBRATING HER 7th BIRTHDAY WITH HER FATHER AND THEY ARE
HAVING A SPECIAL DINNER AND JUST COMPLETELY IN LOVE WITH EACH
OTHER THE WAY THAT SOMETIMES PARENTS AND KIDS ARE.
AND PEOPLE START GRADUALLY SORT OF NOTICE THEM AND BEHAVING IN
INCREASINGLY HOSTILE WAY TO HER FATHER.
AND IF IS SHOT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THIS LITTLE GIRL
AS HER FATHER BECOMES SORT OF MORE AND MORE AS A LIGHTNING ROD
FOR OUTRAGE. AND I THINK WHY I WANTED TO MAKE
IT WAS WITH PUBLIC SHAMING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHENEVER YOU
SEE THOSE VIDEOS ONLINE I FIND THEM UTTERLY ENTHRALLING.
THEY MADE ME FEEL ADRENALIZED AND HORRIFIED, WERD COCKTAIL OF
FEELINGS, I OFTEN END UP, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS THIS
MORAL ALGEBRA, THEY DID X, DOES THAT WARRANT Y, DID THEY DESERVE
THE THING HAPPENING TO THEM NOW AND I GET CAUGHT IN THIS IDEAL
LOGICAL BRAMBLE OF IT IT TALL. BUT MY COWRITER WERE THINKING
WHAT WOULD IT IT BE LIKE TO TWITNESS ONE OF THESE EVENTS
FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF SOMEONE WITHOUT DWUNT EVEN HAVE THE
INFORMATION TO CONSIDER THE MORAL IMPLICATIONS, SO JUST
HAVING AN EXPERIENCE OF IT. AND SO WE THOUGHT IT TWOO BE
INTERESTING TO SHOW THAT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE LITTLE
GIRL AT HER BIRTHDAY. THAT IS WHAT THE STORY IS ABOUT,
ST A BIG TELEVISION SHOW TO HAVE ME ON TO PROMOTE THIS LITTLE
SHORT T IS SO GENEROUS. >> James: I THINK IT IS
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT. I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD WATCH
IT. I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD WATCH
IT TBAWS I DO THINK IT BRINGS UP SOMETHING VERY, VERY INTERESTING
TO SOCIETY AT THE MOMENT. AND OBVIOUSLY PUBLIC SHAMING IS
EVERYWHERE AT THE MOMENT. IT IT FEELS LIKE, PUBLIC SHAMING
IS THE THING THAT USED TO HAPPEN, YOU MOW, 50, 60, 80, A
HUNDRED YEARS AGO WHERE SOMEONE WOULD DO SOMETHING WRONG IN THE
TOWN, THEY WOULD BE MAYED IN STOCK AND PEOPLE WOULD GO DOWN.
AND THEY WERE OUTLAWED BY TOWNS AND MAYORS AND CITIES NOT
BECAUSE OF THE-- NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE OF THE DAMAGE AND IMPACT
THAT WAS HAPPENING TO THE PERSON BEING SHAMED.
BUT BECAUSE TOWN MAYORS REALIZED THAT THIS IS CAUSING A HUGE
CHANGE IN THE SOCIETY OF THEIR TOWN.
AND THE WAY THAT PEOPLE WERE STARTING TO BEHAVE.
WHICH IS WHO IS NEXT, WHO SHOULD WE GET NEXT.
THE SORT OF NOTION OF WE ALL HAVE SHAME, WE ALL HAVE THINGS
WE ARE A ASHAMED OF BUT THERE WOULD BE PEOPLE WELL AS LONG AS
THEY ARE LOOKING OVER THERE, NO ONE IS LOOKING AT ME AND I'M
SAFE IN THE CROWD. I MEAN WHAT DID YOU THINK OF
PUBLIC SHAMING. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS
WORLD THAT WE ARE LIVING RIGHT NOW.
>> ZACH IS RIGHT, THERE IS SOMETHING WEIRD ABOUT THE
PSYCHOLOGY OF THIS BIG CROWD WHETHER IT IS VIRTUAL OR IN
REALITY KIND OF GATHERING AND FEELING THIS OUTRAGE AND THIS
SUPERYORITY THAT THEY WOULD NEVER DO IT, TO YOUR POINT,
DON'T LOOK AT ME, LOOK OVER HERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I JUST THINK THE WORLD HAS GOTTEN SO REACTIVE
AND JUDGMENTAL THAT WHICH COULD ALL USE A LITTLE MORE
FORGIVENESS I THINK. >> James: COULDN'T HAVE SAID
IT IT BETTERK REGGIE, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
>> Reggie: YES, I DO. TONIGHT'S QUESTION IMOAS TO,
LET'S GO FOR ALL OF OUR GUESTS THIS EVENING.
IF YOU WERE GRANTED A RELATIVELY CUTE WAGON LIKE A RED FLYER,
LIKE A RADIO FLYER AND YOU WERE GRANTED THAT, AND LET'S SIGH IT
IS A LITTLE BIT LARGER, LET'S SAY 30% LARGER THAN THE
CHILDREN'S VERSION, SO A MORE PRACTICAL WAGON, AND YOU HAD TO
TRANSPORT SOME GOODS BUT YOU COULD EITHER TRANSPORT YOUR OWN
GOODS OR YOU COULD HELP TRANSPORT OTHER PEOPLE'S GOODS
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND YOU, THROUGH A WAG WHO ARE WAGONLESS,
WHAT WOULD YOU CHOOSE TO DO? >> I THINK I WOULD, WELL, I WITH
PROBABLY TRANSPORT A LOT OF THINGS TO MY WAGONLESS NEIGHBORS
THAT PROBABLY I THOUGHT THAT THEY COULD USE AND ENJOY AND BUT
IF I COULDN'T DO THAT, I WOULD DEFINITELY TRANSPORT, IS THAT
THE RIGHT ANSWER. >> James: TRANSPORT THE
WAGONLESS, WHAT ABOUT ZACH. >> I WOULD USE THAT 30% TO TAKE
THINGS FROM MY NEIGHBORS BECAUSE.
>> THAT'S THE CHRISTMAS SPIRIT. >> THAT'S RIGHT, YOU KNOW, IT IT
COULD BE ANYTHING, IT IT COULD BE-- SWRZ THEY DON'T HAVE A
WAGON. >> THEY DON'T HAVE A WAGON, COME
AFTER ME, WHAT ARE THEY BEING TO DO, THEY DON'T HAVE A WAGON FRK
THEY WANTED TO TAKE THEM BACK THEY DON'T HAVE A WAGON TO
TRANSPORT THEM. >> James: REG, TWO POINTSES OF
VIEW WHO IS CORRECT. >> Reggie: THEY ARE EQUALLY
CORRECT. >> James: PLEASE THANK KATIE
COURIC, ZACH WOODS, DAVE GAHAN AND SOULSAVERS WHEN WE COME
BACK.