LOT OF TIME TO GET DOWN.
DAVID: WELL, PRESIDENT BIDEN
SAYS THERE’S NO TIME TO GO TO
THE BORDER AS 60,000 MORE
MIGRANTS ARE REPORTEDLY
GATHERING IN MEXICO WHERE THEY
WILL SOON ATTEMPT TO SOMEWHERE
THE U.S.
-- TO ENTER THE U.S.
WHERE DO THEY GO WHEN THEY GET
HERE?
NEW YORK OHS REPORTING EARLIER
THIS WEEK THAT THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION IS FLYING
THOUSANDS OF UNACCOMPANIED
CHILDREN ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
HERE TO GET INTO ALL OF THAT,
FORMER HOMELAND SECURITY
SECRETARY CHAD WOLF.
CHAD, GOOD TO SEE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.
I’M JUST WONDERING IF WE’RE
ABOUT TO SEE A REPLAY OF WHAT
HAPPENED IN DEL RIO, TEXAS, WITH
ALL THOSE HAITIAN IMMIGRANTS A
MONTH AGO.
>> WELL, WE CERTAINLY COULD BE.
BUT LET ME JUST START WITH THE
PRESIDENT’S COMMENTS ABOUT HOW
HE GUESSES HE SHOULD GO TO THE
BORDER.
NOW IS NOT A TIME TO GUESS.
NOW IS THE TIME FOR ACTION AND
LEADERSHIP, AND THE PRESIDENT
NEEDS TO BE FOCUSED ON THE
BORDER CRISIS THAT WE HAVE.
HE NEEDS TO GO DOWN THERE, HE
NEEDS TO SEE IT FIRSTHAND, HE
NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND IT.
SO, BUT WE’VE GOT, YOU KNOW,
THOUSANDS OF OTHER MIGRANTS
COMING TO THE BORDER BECAUSE THE
MESSAGE FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION
IS CLEAR THAT IF YOU COME TO THE
BORDER AND YOU GET ACROSS THE
BORDER, YOU TURN YOURSELF IN TO
BORDER PATROL, YOU’LL BE
RELEASED INTO THE UNITED STATES,
AND THAT’S EXACTLY THE WRONG
MESSAGE WE SHOULD BE SENDING.
AND THE RESULT IS HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS -- SORRY, THOUSANDS OF
FOLKS COMING TO THE BORDER
AMASSING ON THE MEXICAN SIDE
WAITING TO CROSS AT THE RIGHT
TIME.
DAVID: WELL, HAS THERE BEEN ANY
ATTEMPT TO CHANGE POLICY OR TO
CHANGE THE STRATEGY OF WHAT TO
DO WHEN A WAVE OF IMMIGRANTS
COMES IN SINCE DEL RIO?
BECAUSE IT WAS JUST SO CLEAR
FROM THAT ONE EXAMPLE THAT WE
HAD NOTHING TO TOP THEM FROM
COMING. -- TO STOP THEM FROM
COMING.
>> THAT’S REALLY THE ESSENTIAL
QUESTION, IS, YOU KNOW, MONTH
AFTER MONTH YOU HAVE A HISTORIC
FISCAL YEAR, 1.7 MILLION ILLEGAL
APPREHENSIONS, YOU HAVE THE DEL
RIO CASE THAT YOU MENTIONED.
WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO
UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR STRATEGY
IS FAILING?
IT’S FAILING THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE, AND IT’S FAILING THE
COMMUNITIES ALONG THAT BORDER.
AND THEY SHOULD BE OUT TALKING
ABOUT NEW STRATEGIES AND NEW
APPROACHES TO THIS, AND THEY’RE
NOT.
INSTEAD, THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT
THE SAME OLD ROOT CAUSES.
THAT’S NOT GOING TO FIX THE
SECURITY AT THE BORDER.
DAVID: WELL, AND WE JUST SAW --
FORGIVE ME FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT
WE JUST SAW THESE NEW FIGURES.
THEY ARE RECORD-BREAKING
FIGURES.
1.7 MILLION ENCOUNTERS WITH
IMMIGRANTS IN FISCAL YEAR 2021.
FISCAL YEAR 2021 ENDS, I BELIEVE
IT’S THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
SO IT’S THE LARGEST NUMBER, THAT
1.7 MILLION IS THE LARGEST
NUMBER WE’VE EVER HAD.
IT AIN’T WORKING.
>> WELL, IT’S NOT WORKING.
THE 1.7, AGAIN, THEY’RE JUST THE
TOTAL APPREHENSIONS THAT BORDER
PATROL COMES INTO CONTACT WITH.
THERE’S ANOTHER 400,000 WHAT WE
CALL GOTAWAYS, FOLKS THAT BORDER
PATROL NEVER COMES INTO CONTACT
WITH BECAUSE THEY DON’T HAVE THE
PERSONNEL AND THE RESOURCES.
SO THE 1.7 IS CLOSER TO 2.1 OR
2.2 MILLION INDIVIDUALS TRYING
TO COME INTO THE COUNTRY
ILLEGALLY.
THEY NEED TO CHANGE COURSE.
THEY HAVE A PLAYBOOK THAT WORKS.
WE HANDED OFF A PLAYBOOK DURING
THE TRANSITION.
THEY KNOW IT WORKS, AND THEY
JUST SIMPLY REFUSE TO DO IT.
DAVID: MEANWHILE, THE IMMIGRANTS
WHO COME HERE, I’M SURE THE
MAJORITY OF THEM ARE SEEKING A
NEW AND BETTER LIFE AND PLAN TO
GET A JOB AND EVERYTHING, BUT
THERE ARE SOME BAD FOLKS MIXED
IN HERE TOO.
IN FACT, I.C.E -- WHICH IS
SUPPOSED TO GO AFTER THOSE BAD
FOLKS -- IS BEING PULLED BACK BY
MAYORKAS, YOUR SUCCESSOR, AND
HE’S -- THERE’S NO MORE
WORKPLACE RAIDS.
THEY’RE BEING SORT OF HANDCUFFED
IN WHAT THEY CAN DO, AND AS A
RESULT, WE SEE SOME HORRIBLE
INSTANCES.
IN PHILADELPHIA YOU HAD THIS
WOMAN RAPED ON A TRAIN WHICH WAS
ACTUALLY PHOTOGRAPHED BY SOME OF
THE PEOPLE ON THE TRAIN BY AN
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT AND MANY OTHER
EXAMPLES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
>> WELL, IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT
IS A TWO-STEP PROCESS, RIGHT?
IT’S NOT ONLY WHAT OCCURS ON THE
BORDER, BUT FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT
COME INTO THE INTERIOR OF THE
COUNTRY, WE HAVE I.C.E. LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENTS THAT ARE
SUPPOSED TO REMOVE INDIVIDUALS
ELIGIBLE FOR DEPORTATION.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE THE SECRETARY
CONTINUE TO TELL I.C.E. DON’T DO
YOUR JOB, DO NOT ENFORCE THE
LAW, IT SENDS A TERRIBLE
MESSAGE.
IT SENDS A MESSAGE NOT ONLY TO
THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS,
BUT ALSO TO THE MIGRANTS.
THEY ARE GETTING THE MESSAGE
THAT IF WE COME ACROSS THE
BORDER, WE CAN STAY IN THE
UNITED STATES, AND IT’S THE
WRONG MESSAGE.
DAVID: YEAH.
NO, THAT’S WHAT THE GRAPEVINE
SOUTH OF THE BORDER SAYS, AND