LITTLE LATER ON IN "MORNING
JOE."
BACK NOW TO THE DEVELOPMENTS IN
UKRAINE.
WE WILL GET TO, AS WE MENTIONED,
PRESIDENT BIDEN IS MAKING TWO
STOPS IN POLAND TODAY.
THE WHITE HOUSE ANNOUNCED LATE
LAST NIGHT THE PRESIDENT WILL
TRAVEL TO EASTERN POLAND TO MEET
WITH THE POLISH PRESIDENT.
THE AREA HAS BECOME A HUB FOR
THE HUMANITARIAN RESPONSE FOR
THE UKRAINIAN REFUGEES.
PRESIDENT BIDEN WILL GET A
BRIEFING ON THE HUMANITARIAN
EFFORTS THERE AND SAID HE HOPES
TO MEET WITH REFUGEES.
HE SAID THAT YESTERDAY.
HE WAS ASKED WHETHER SEEING THE
SITUATION FIRSTHAND COULD CHANGE
HIS RESPONSE TO THE WAR IN
UKRAINE.
>> I DON'T THINK SO BECAUSE I
HAVE BEEN IN MANY, MANY WAR
ZONES.
I HAVE BEEN IN REFUGEE CAMPS AND
WAR ZONES FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS,
AND IT'S -- IT'S DEVASTATING.
WHAT IT WILL DO, IT WILL
REINFORCE MY COMMITMENT TO HAVE
THE UNITED STATES MAKE SURE WE
ARE A MAJOR PIECE OF DEALING
WITH THE RELOCATION OF ALL THOSE
FOLKS AS WELL AS HUMANITARIAN
ASSISTANCE NEEDED INSIDE UKRAINE
AND OUTSIDE UKRAINE.
>> THE PRESIDENT WILL ALSO MEET
WITH U.S. TROOPS BEFORE
TRAVELING TO WARSAW WHERE TALKS
WITH POLAND'S PRESIDENT WILL
CONTINUE.
JOINING US NOW, THE MAYOR OF
WARSAW.
WE THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, FOR
JOINING US, ONCE AGAIN ON THE
SHOW.
IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU CAN SEE IN
TERMS OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT
HAVE BEEN HAD ALL AROUND ARE
POLAND AND THE UNITED STATES
ALIGNED ON THE RESPONSE TO
UKRAINE?
>> GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING
ME ON THE SHOW.
YES, WE ARE.
THESE WORDS OF THE PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES ARE INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS VERY
IMPORTANT THAT WE SHARE THE
BURDEN BECAUSE IN A CERTAIN
SENSE, UKRAINIANS ARE DOING
THEIR FIGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM, BUT
WE NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY
AND DO OUR BID, SO THESE WORDS
OF THE PRESIDENT ARE VERY MUCH
WELCOMED IN POLAND.
I AM VERY GLAD THE WHOLE WESTERN
WORLD IS ALIGNED WHEN IT COMES
TO HELPING REFUGEES HERE ON THE
GROUND.
>> ALL POLITICAL SIDES IN
POLAND, DO YOU THINK THEY ARE
ALIGNED WITH THE UNITED STATES
AND NATO, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT
OF RHETORIC AND EMOTION RUNNING
HIGH ABOUT NO-FLY ZONES, AND
GETTING IN THERE TO HELP THE
PEOPLE OF UKRAINE.
OF COURSE THIS EMOTION IS
EXTREMELY UNDERSTANDABLE AND
EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO WATCH
WHAT IS HAPPENING IN UKRAINE AND
YET THERE'S ALSO THE REALITY OF
THE RISK OF HOW CLOSE THE WORLD
IS, REALLY, ON THE EDGE OF
THINGS FAR WORSE.
ARE YOU HEARING ALIGNMENT IN ALL
THE VOICES IN POLAND POLITICALLY
ON THIS?
>> YOU KNOW, MY JOB AS THE MAYOR
OF WARSAW, WHICH ACCEPTED
300,000 REFUGEES ALREADY IS
SIMPLY TO HELP THE PEOPLE WHO
ARE IN NEED, BUT THE WHOLE
POLITICAL CLASS IS ALIGNED.
WHEN YOU ARE ON THE GROUND AND
YOU HEAR THE HEART-BREAKING
STORIES FROM PEOPLE THAT ARRIVE
TO WARSAW, YOU WOULD WANT TO DO
MORE AND WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING
WE CAN, WELCOMING UKRAINIANS AND
SENDING TRANSPORTS OF FOOD AND
MEDICAL SUPPLIES TO KYIV.
WE ALSO HEAR THE PLEAS OF
PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY AND WE WOULD
WANT TO DO MORE, BUT THEN AGAIN
WE NEED TO BE RATIONAL.
WE CANNOT PROVOKE RUSSIA BECAUSE
PRESIDENT PUTIN, UNFORTUNATELY,
IS UNPREDICTABLE. WE NEED TO STAND UNITED AND
WE NEED TO STAND UNITED AND
WOULD SEND A STRONG SIGNAL TO
MISCELLANEOUS
MOSCOW THAT EVERY INCH OF NATO
COMPANY WILL BE DEFENDED, AND WE
ARE IN A CERTAIN SENSE ALSO
FIGHTING AND SHOWING PUTIN HOW
MUCH HE MISCALCULATED THAT WE
WILL STAND UNITED AND WE WILL
NOT YIELD TO HIS AGGRESSIVE
POLICIES.
>> MR. MAYOR, GOOD MORNING. THE WORLD HAS APPLAUDED POLAND,
THE WORLD HAS APPLAUDED POLAND,
RIGHTLY SO FOR ABSORBING MORE
REFUGEES.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT AS A
PRACTICAL QUESTION WHAT IT'S
LIKE TO INTEGRATE THAT MANY
PEOPLE INTO YOUR SOCIETY?
YOU HAVE 100,000 YOUNG PEOPLE
GOING TO YOUR SCHOOLS IN THE
SPACE OF A MONTH.
WHAT DOES THAT OPERATION LOOK
LIKE FROM YOUR SIDE OF THINGS?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SHOWN
THIS INCREDIBLE SOLIDARITY AS A
NATION.
THE BURDEN IS MOSTLY ON CIVIL
SOCIETY, ON GEOFFOVERNMENTAL
ORGANIZATIONS AND WE ARE DOING
EVERYTHING TO HELP.
AND OF COURSE, OUR SERVICES, THE
SERVICES OF THE CITY ARE
STRETCHED AND FIRST WE NEED TO
FIND ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE
PEOPLE, AND WE HAVE TO REGISTER
THEM AND GIVE THEM A POLISH
IDENTITY NUMBER OR SOCIAL
SECURITY NUMBER BECAUSE THEY
HAVE ACCESS TO FREE EDUCATION
TO, FREE HEALTH CARE AND SOCIAL
PROTECTION BECAUSE THEY ARE
TREATED ALMOST LIKE POLISH
CITIZENS.
THERE'S A LOT WE NEED TO DO AND
WE NEED ASSISTANCE FROM THE WORLD, FROM THE UNITED STATES
WORLD, FROM THE UNITED STATES AND THE EUROPEAN UNION, AND WE
AND THE EUROPEAN UNION, AND WE
CANNOT EMPRAU ADVISORY ANYMORE.
THEY WANT TO TAKE CARE OF
THEMSELVES.
THE DEGREE OF SELF ORGANIZATION
IS UNBELIEVABLE.
I VISITED THEM, AND I VISIT THEM
DAILY IN DIFFERENT PLACES WHERE
WE TAKE CARE OF THEM, AND THEY
ORGANIZE THEMSELVES.
TEACHERS ARE ALREADY --
UKRAINIAN TEACHERS WHO CAME WITH
THE REFUGEES WANT TO TEACH THEIR
KIDS, AND NURSES ARE HELPING
OUT, AND LADIES THAT WORKED IN
THE KITCHEN ARE HELPING OUT IN
THE KITCHEN, AND A LADY THAT
TAKES CARE OF THE WHOLE FLOOR TO
MAKE ORDER IN THIS PLACE, IT'S
UNBELIEVABLE.
THOSE GUYS ARE, YES,
TRAUMATIZED, BUT THEY ARE SO
PROUD AND THEY ARE ALSO KNOWING
THAT THEY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF
THEMSELVES --
>> YEAH.
>> -- BECAUSE THEY NEED TO GIVE
WILL TO THE GUYS FIGHTING ON THE
GROUND THE RUSSIAN TROOPS.