>> She writes, he was in Miami we had live coverage.
Thank you for watching.
After our live debate coverage and post show wrapped up then Jake went to CNN where he
talked to Chris Cuomo and my old boss Jennifer Granholm former mayor of Michigan.
About how these half measures when it comes to trying to fix the tax code.
And so, first of all the interaction began with a little TYT fan info.
>> Make a fan of yours called into the radio show the other day.
I'm in love with Sirius radio.
It has been so good for my journalism.
So Lisa helps me out.
As always, Jennifer Granholm came in with Governor Whitman of New Jersey and did an
event for me.
I got to get you on the show.
This guy calls in, he's a fan of the young Turks.
And he's like, you know, the problem is the Democrats want to play small ball.
And they want to win by like almost being just like the Republicans and just kind of
skosh through in some style contest.
We gotta play big ball, big ideas, big moves.
That's how we get the big votes to turn out from people who now roll their eyes at us.
That's your argument.
>> 100%, so first of all, by the way, Young Turks was the first original talk show on
Sirius satellite radio, so I'm proud of that.
That was all the way back in 02.
But- >> I first I just had to pause there to be
like, name drop.
>> Loved it and then later he like visors Granholm about Current TV where I love her
show and then everywhere.
That's how we all met.
>> Okay, so this is the point those specifically.
It's about a 70% marginal tax rate on people who make over a million dollars.
And Cuomo challenges Cenk on that in relation to taking half measures and how everybody
else feels about it.
So take a look at that interaction will discuss.
>> The 70% tax bracket for people only making above a million dollars.
And at this point, if you ask the American people 76% of them want to raise taxes on
the rich.
So we got to get that through our heads three quarters of the company says.
Raise taxes, right?
>> I'm totally with you on that, it's just you have to sell it to him.
>> What about the idea, Cenk, of people who aren't in a tax bracket but aspire to it.
And they don't like that you're putting a cap on their dream?
>> No, but Chris, we already polled it.
Three-quarters of the country says they've had too many tax cuts, raise their taxes.
In fact, when you go to the millionaires they agreed.
60% of millionaires says, for God's sake raise our taxes.
So the millionaires agree and the people who aren't millionaires agree, then what are we
fighting them for?
>> 70%.
>> But Jennifer, that's 70% for people making above a million dollars, and it's only marginal,
it's $1 above a million.
So guys, don't help the Republicans make their talking points.
The reality is three-quarters of the country is with us.
>> That's why I'm here.
Cenk I'm here to help motivate the talk point of each side, and that's what I do.
>> My point is though Chris, just real quick to just get your overall point about big ideas.
Look, we fight for higher wages for the average American.
We fight for health care for everyone.
See, these are things that people can rally around.
When Hillary Clinton said no change.
When Joe Biden says no change.
It is impossible to rally around that.
We have got to actually fight for the average guy and we can do it in a big way and they
actually agree with us.
So let's say yes to them so that we could win the election and get great policies in.
>> So what do you guys think?
First of all, it's awesome to see that back and forth.
I mean not only because it's two people who used to be anchor on TV.
But specifically, it is a progressive voice- >> Mm-hm.
>> Talking and discussing how a very passionate progressive base is essentially trying to
bargain with moderates to be bold.
I mean, what do you think about that?
>> I mean, this is very much a reflection of the successes of the 2018 campaign.
With what democratic socialist of America, justice democrats were able to do is they
successfully marketed candidates, like AOC.
And now their voices being heard, their voices being brought into the conversation.
You know when you were playing him, I didn't know that he was doing a post debate conversation
on CNN.
That to me seems wild.
But it also seems that, like I said, there's a current shift, you were talking about current,
there's a current shift around the culture.
What those cable news stations now know that they need to include.
Because it is a part of the audience that they're trying to capture back.
>> Mm-hm, yeah.
>> I mean, it's great that we've gotten to a point where not treating it progressive
messaging like witchcraft.
>> Right, exactly.
>> Right, It's funny to see him do that.
>> Yeah, yeah.
>> Yeah, that was like on the damage report we talked-
>> No offense to any witches out there.
>> It's witchcraft, but it's also like in those movies where they go back, where you
go back in time with your cell phone.
And you hand it to someone and you show it to them and they're like, what is this crazy-
>> Right.
>> Crazy thing.
>> And it's just like, well everyone knows this-
>> Give everyone healthcare?
What is this?
>> Right.
>> It sounds like a king who- >> You're the crazy one.
>> It sounds like a kid who tells their parent, I was just up at the tree-house and I saw
a ghost.
Like what are you- >> That's how extreme it is.
>> My child has a wild, wild imagination.
I mean tax the rich, where did they come up with that?
>> Right.
>> What do you think about this thing?
This is what I hear, cuz I talk to some people who are all over the map on this particular
issue, the 70% marginal tax rate.
Which is only you're taxed at the same rate below that.
>> Mm-hm.
>> For every dollar you make above a million you have a higher tax rate.
>> Right.
>> So it's not that now that you make a million dollars you're getting tax at 70% on every,
and you're making 30% of that.
Whatever that is, I don't do math.
>> But people say, it's that aspirational part of America where they're like, you're
taking away that dream of being a millionaire.
>> Which is- >> I can't even wrap my mind around that argument.
>> You will never.
The people who are arguing against this, the way things are, you will never even have to
deal with this problem.
Because only three or four people are controlling this.
Well, I mean, it's- >> What might the current system-
>> It's just ridiculous.
>> And it's also the current system we have now.
Is actually working harder against what you think is the American dream, than what the
system we're proposing would do.
>> But also, what are you willing to do for that kind of money?
Right?
Who are you willing to step on, and what are you willing to not pay back?
Do you know any billionaire that got their money without exploiting people?
Or harming people?
>> No, because of the billionaires that I know, or the billionaires that I know.
>> Wait, wait, wait, wait.
>> No, the billionaires that are getting made now are in the tech sector and they are literally
exploiting your personal information.
>> I mean there, there is an interesting historical moment where these corporations were held
accountable in the early 20th century of America.
You remember the Rockefeller, the Vanderbilt, Carnegie.
All these folks they put in a president named William McKinley into office.
So that he could watch out for them so that there could be no antitrust cases against
them.
And then, William McKinley, he's, I need to get Theodore Roosevelt as my VP.
So he can't hold those folks accountable.
What happens William McKinley gets killed, assassinated by an anarchist who's mad at
McKinley for not trying those big bad corporations.
And then who gets to become president? >> Progressivism.
>> Exactly and he held them accountable.
And so the American people did want those things.
And so this dream of being a Rockefeller, it's also a part of Hollywood folklore, people
didn't like these folks.
>> And all of these checks on giant business, their progressivism, it's not your instinct
to make money, it's not your ability to go and seek the American dream.
It's us putting in checks against people that are keeping you from achieving your dream,
and that's all.