IT IS AFFECTED BY COVID AND 30
MILLION PEOPLE BEING OUT OF
WORK.
>> YES.
>> JOE BIDEN’S CAMPAIGN UNVEILED
A NEW TELEVISION AD LAST NIGHT
THAT INCLUDES PORTIONS OF HIS
SPEECH THIS WEEK CONDEMNING THE
VIOLENCE IN SOME OF THE PROTESTS
AROUND THE NATION.
>> I WANT TO MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY
CLEAR, RIOTING IS NOT
PROTESTING, LOOTING IS NOT
PROTESTING.
IT’S LAWLESSNESS, PLAIN AND
SIMPLE, AND THOSE WHO DO IT
SHOULD BE PROSECUTED.
FIRES ARE BURNING AND WE HAVE A
PRESIDENT WHO FANS THE FLAMES.
HE CAN’T STOP THE VIOLENCE
BECAUSE FOR YEARS HE’S FOMENTED
IT.
BUT HIS FAILURE TO CALL ON HIS
OWN SUPPORTERS TO STOP ACTING AS
AN ARMED MILITIA IN THIS COUNTRY
SHOWS HOW WEAK HE IS.
VIOLENCE WILL NOT BRING CHANGE.
IT WILL ONLY BRING DESTRUCTION.
IT’S WRONG IN EVERY WAY.
IF OUR PRESIDENT, MY LANGUAGE
WOULD BE LESS DIVISIVE.
I’D BE LOOKING TO LOWER THE
TEMPERATURE IN THIS COUNTRY, NOT
RAISE IT.
DONALD TRUMP IS DETERMINED TO
INSTILL FEAR IN AMERICA BECAUSE
DONALD TRUMP ADDS FUEL TO EVERY
FIRE.
THIS IS NOT WHO WE ARE.
I BELIEVE WE’LL BE GUIDED BY THE
WORDS OF POPE JOHN PAUL II,
WORDS DRAWN FROM THE
SCRIPTURES -- BE NOT AFRAID.
I’M JOE BIDEN AND I APPROVE THIS
MESSAGE.
>> I’LL TELL YOU WHAT, I’M A
CONSERVATIVE --
>> IT’S POWERFUL.
>> SOME PEOPLE WOULD EVEN
CONDEMN ME AS A LAW-AND-ORDER
CONSERVATIVE.
I’VE GOT TO SAY, THOUGH, SHAWNA,
I LOOK AT DONALD TRUMP AND HIS
APPROACH TO THIS ISSUE, AND I
LOOK AT JOE BIDEN AND HIS
APPROACH TO THIS ISSUE.
IT’S NOT EVEN A CLOSE CALL.
JOE BIDEN IS CONDEMNING VIOLENCE
ON BOTH SIDES.
DONALD TRUMP IS NOT.
IN FACT, HE’S EVEN OFFERING
SUPPORT THROUGH TWEETS AND
THROUGH SOME OF THE THINGS HE
SAYS FOR A 17-YEAR-OLD BOY WHO
GOT AN AR-15, MURDERED TWO
PEOPLE, KILLED TWO PEOPLE, AND
CHARGED WITH MURDER BY
AUTHORITIES, SOMEBODY FROM OUT
OF STATE SAYING HE WAS
PROTECTING PROPERTY THAT WASN’T
EVEN HIS OWN.
I’M SORRY, THIS, EVEN FOR THE
CONSERVATIVE LAW-AND-ORDER GUY
IN ME, THIS LOOKS PRETTY CLEAR
CUT.
JOE BIDEN HAS THE MUCH STRONGER
POLITICAL ARGUMENT, AT LEAST IN
MY EYES.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT AD
AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HOW
THIS ISSUE --
>> RESONATES.
>> -- IS SETTING UP?
>> WELL, I MEAN, I THINK IT’S
INTERESTING THAT THAT AD DOES
SPEAK TO YOU, AS YOU CALLED
YOURSELF A LAW-AND-ORDER
CONSERVATIVE.
I’M NOT SURE THAT IS THE MONIKER
YOU WANT TO USE.
BUT THAT IT SPEAKS TO YOU
BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT IS
DESIGNED TO --
>> I -- WELL, LISTEN, IF LAW AND
ORDER -- LET ME JUST SAY, IF LAW
AND ORDER MEANS THAT YOU’RE
AGAINST LOOTING AND MEANS THAT
YOU’RE AGAINST RIOTING, THAT AS
WE’VE SEEN FROM ANARCHISTS FOR
YEARS -- FOR YEARS -- YOU KNOW,
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE
KEEPING STREETS SAFE.
AND I SAID, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT
CONDEMN ME AS A, QUOTE,
LAW-AND-ORDER CONSERVATIVE.
I’VE SPOKEN OUT ABOUT WHAT’S
BEEN GOING ON IN PORTLAND FOR A
VERY LONG TIME, AND I WILL
CONTINUE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST IT
BECAUSE I DON’T WANT, LIKE JOHN
LEWIS DOESN’T WANT, LIKE
REVEREND AL DOESN’T WANT, LIKE A
LOT OF PEOPLE DON’T WANT, THE
PEACEFUL MARCHING OF THE 25
MILLION PEOPLE THAT CAME OUT IN
THE BLACK LIVES MATTER MARCHES,
I DON’T WANT THAT OVERSHADOWED.
>> NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I DO THINK THAT THE FACT THAT
THE COMMERCIAL SPEAKS TO YOU
SAYS EXACTLY WHAT THE JOE BIDEN
CAMPAIGN IS TRYING TO DO.
THEY ARE TRYING TO SPEAK TO YOU.
THEY ARE TRYING TO SPEAK TO
PEOPLE THAT THEY THINK ARE
ALREADY DISSATISFIED WITH
PRESIDENT TRUMP BUT ALSO MAY NOT
BE CONSIDERING VOTING.
HE’S TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
WALK THE LINE OF DOING THE TWO
THINGS THAT WE’VE BEEN TALKING
ABOUT, SAYING, CONDEMNING
VIOLENCE, CONDEMNING RIOTING,
WHILE ALSO ACKNOWLEDGING THAT
THERE IS A LARGER PROBLEM IN
THIS COUNTRY.
SO, I THINK THE COMMERCIAL DOES
THAT, BUT THE COMMERCIAL ALSO
TAKES A TURN AND DOES TRY TO
DEFINE PRESIDENT TRUMP.
SO, INSTEAD OF JUST TRYING TO,
YOU KNOW, SAY, I AM NOT
PRESIDENT TRUMP, JOE BIDEN CALLS
HIM WEAK.
AND WE KNOW THAT THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT REALLY RILES UP
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
HE DOESN’T WANT TO BE SEEN AS
WEAK.
HE WANTS TO BE SEEN AS STRONG.
HE WANTS TO BE SEEN AS, LIKE,
THE STRONG PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES.
SO, I THINK WHAT THEY’RE TRYING
TO DO THERE IS, YOU KNOW, IT
SEEMS LIKE THE TACTIC THAT THEY
NEED TO DO RIGHT NOW, BUT IT
ALSO SHOWS THAT THIS IS KIND OF
WHAT THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN IS
WORRIED ABOUT, THAT THAT
LAW-AND-ORDER MESSAGE THAT THE
PRESIDENT IS PUTTING OUT THERE
IS SOMETHING THAT THEY REALLY,
REALLY DO HAVE TO COMBAT, AND
THEY’RE DOING IT BY PUTTING THAT
PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL BUY BEHIND
THIS AD AND RUNNING IT IN A LOT
OF PLACES.
I THINK I READ THIS IS THE
LARGEST BUY THEY’VE DONE SO FAR?
SO, IT POINTS TO WHERE THEY
THINK THEY ARE STARTING TO
POSSIBLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
RESPECT TO THE MESSAGE OF THEIR
CAMPAIGN.
>> AND THIS IS, ELISE, THIS IS
MY POINT.
I ACTUALLY -- I DON’T THINK JOE
BIDEN HAS A PROBLEM HERE.
I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AD,
IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT JOE BIDEN
HAS SAID, AND IF YOU LOOK AT
WHAT DONALD TRUMP HAS DONE,
THEY’RE SO HAM-FISTED.
YOU LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID ON
JUNE 1st, AND PEOPLE IN THE
WHITE HOUSE, AFTER THE PRESIDENT
ATTACKED PEACEFUL PROTESTERS IN
LAFAYETTE PARK, THEY WERE
HIGH-FIVING EACH OTHER.
THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A BRILLIANT
IDEA TO HAVE HIM GO OVER AND
HOLD A BIBLE UPSIDE DOWN.
THAT HURT HIM WITH THE NUMBERS.
I, AGAIN, I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE
DON’T THINK THIS.
I ACTUALLY THINK THIS IS GOING
TO HURT HIM AS WELL.
I THINK JOE BIDEN IS POSITIONED
PERFECTLY, AS YOU HAVE DONALD
TRUMP, AGAIN, REFUSING TO EVEN
CONDEMN 17-YEAR-OLD BOYS FROM
OUT OF STATE CARRYING AR-15s
AROUND TO PROTECT PROPERTY THAT
WASN’T EVEN HIS OWN AND SHOOTING
AND KILLING TWO PEOPLE.
>> JOE, IT’S ALMOST AS IF THE
TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS TRYING TO TAKE
SOMETHING THAT IS JOE BIDEN’S
GENERAL ELECTION STRENGTH, THAT
HE WASN’T EXACTLY AT THE
FOREFRONT OF LEADING CRIMINAL
JUSTICE REFORM, THAT HE WAS FOR
THE 1994 CRIME BILL THAT LED TO
THE GROSS OVERMASS INCARCERATION
OF SO MANY AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN
THIS COUNTRY.
AND NOW, THEY’RE ALLOWING HIM TO
SHOWCASE THAT, QUOTE, LAW AND
ORDER BACKGROUND.
AND I THINK IT’S SMART THAT JOE
BIDEN’S CAMPAIGN IS NOT LETTING
THIS REST, THAT THEY ARE NOT
LETTING DONALD TRUMP’S ATTACKS
OWN JOE BIDEN AS BEING SOMEONE
THAT’S FOR ANARCHY STAND, THAT
THEY’RE SPENDING BIG TO GET
THESE ADS OUT.
I THOUGHT THE SPEECH WAS
MASTERFUL.
I THOUGHT IT SAID WHAT NEEDED TO
BE SAID, MADE VERY CLEAR,
UNEQUIVOCALLY, THAT JOE BIDEN
DOES NOT STAND FOR LAWLESSNESS,
HE DOESN’T STAND FOR RIOTING, HE
DOESN’T STAND FOR LOOTING, AND
DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN THOSE
ACTS WHICH SHOULD BE PROSECUTED
VERSUS PROTESTING FOR RACIAL