MAX BOOT AND CHARLIE SYKES.
GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR COMING
ON THE SUNDAY SHOW.
MAX, SINCE YOURE THE NEWBIE
HERE.
LET ME START WITH YOU AND HAVE
YOU PUT IN THIS VIDEO PUT IN A
FUND-RAISING E-MAIL FOR FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
HAVE A LISTEN TO THIS.
WELL TALK ABOUT IT ON THE OTHER
SIDE.
>> WERE GOING TO TAKE BACK THE
SENATE.
TAKE BACK THE HOUSE.
WERE GOING TO TAKE BACK THE
WHITE HOUSE AND SOONER THAN YOU
THINK ITS GOING TO BE REALLY
SOMETHING SPECIAL.
>> MAX, SOONER THAN WE THINK.
I ALSO CURSED AGAIN ON A SUNDAY
MORNING WITH THE REVEREND HERE
BUT WHAT IS HE TALKING ABOUT?
>> JONATHAN, AS A WILL THE OF
WHAT TRUMP SAYS, WHAT IS HE
TALKING ABOUT, IS A VERY COMMON
QUESTION.
ITS VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE REST
OF ENTER A DELUSIONAL MIND.
I WOULD NOT WRITE OFF WHAT HE IS
SAYING BY SAYING HES LIVING IF
FANTASY LAND.
IF WE LEARNED ONE THING SINCE
2015, HE HAS A VERY POWERFUL
ABILITY TO PULL MILLIONS OF
VOTERS TO HIS PERSONAL FANTASY.
WHAT YOURE SEEING NOW IS
REPUBLICANS ARE ACTING IF FAIRLY
DISCIPLINED FASHION TO BRING
ABOUT TRUMPS FANTASY OF
RETAKING THE HOUSE, THE SENATE
AND THE WHITE HOUSE.
THEY ARE PASSING VOTER
RESTRICTIONS.
THEY ALREADY PASSED VOTER
RESTRICTIONS IN 14 STATES.
THEY ARE ADVANCING IN 18 OTHER
STATES.
THE PARTY THATS OUT OF POWER IN
THE WHITE HOUSE IS NORMALLY
FAVORED TO WIN IN OFF YEAR
ELECTIONS.
NOT ONLY ARE REPUBLICANS
RESTRICTING THE VOTE, THEY ARE
GERRYMANDERING LIKE CRAZY.
THE ODDS ARE IN THEIR FAVOR THAT
THEY WILL WIN THE HOUSE AND
MAYBE THE SENATE TOO IN 2022.
WITH CONTROL OF BOTH HOUSES OF
CONGRESS, THIS IS THE REAL NIGHTMARE SCENARIO, WHAT HAPPENS
NIGHTMARE SCENARIO, WHAT HAPPENS
IF A DEMOCRAT LIKE JOE BIDEN
WINS ANOTHER NARROW VICTORY IN
2025,
2024, WILL YOU SEE THEM CERTIFY
THE RESULTS.
A MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS VOTED
NOT TO CERTIFY.
IF THEY HAVE THE MAJORITY, THEY
COULD TOSS THE ELECTION TO THE
HOUSE BECAUSE THEY CONTROL A
MAJORITY, THEY COULD ELECT TRUMP
IN NOT CRAZY.
WE GOT TO WAKE UP AND REALIZE HE
REMAINS A CLEAR AND PRESENT
DANGER TO OUR DEMOCRACY.
>> MAX, YOU TEND TO BELIEVE IT,
YOU FULLY BELIEVE IT BECAUSE YOU
WROTE AN ENTIRE COLUMN ABOUT IT
IN THE WASHINGTON POST WITH THE
HEADLINE THE REPUBLICAN PLOT TO
STEAL THE 2024 ELECTION.
THE DELUSION THAT YOU MENTIONED,
MAX, OF DONALD TRUMP ABOUT BEING
COMING BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE
SOONER RATHER THAN LATER IS DELUSION THAT IS SHARED.
DELUSION THAT IS SHARED.
HAVE A LISTEN TO SYDNEY POWELL,
TRUMPS FORMER LAWYER.
>> IT SHOULD BE HE CAN BE REINSTATED.
A NEW INAUGURATION DATE IS SET.
AND BIDEN IS TOLD TO MOVE OUT OF
THE WHITE HOUSE.
PRESIDENT TRUMP SHOULD BE MOVED
BACK IN.
>> CHILD, PLEASE.
CHARLIE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN -- SHE
SAID THAT WITH STRAIGHT FACE
WITH ALL SERIOUSNESS.
>> AND THE MY PILLOW GUY IS MORE
SERIOUS ABOUT IT.
HE IS REDIKTING THE U.S. SUPREME
COURT WILL VOTE 9-0 TO REINSTATE
DONALD TRUMP LATER THIS YEAR.
HERE IS THE BAD NEWS.
THE BAD NEWS IS DONALD TRUMP IS
LISTENING TO THEM.
THIS IS DERANGED.
THIS IS DELUSIONAL.
WHAT YOURE SEEING HERE IS THIS
LOOP OF CRAZY ON THE RIGHT.
YOU ACCELERATE THESE NARRATIVES
THAT USED TO BE IN FAR REACHES
OF THE FEVER SWAMP.
EVEN THOUGH AN IDEA IS FAKE AND
CRAZY DOES NOT MEAN IT IS NOT
DANGEROUS.
MAX IS TALK ABOUT THE CLEAR AN
PRESENT DANGER OF REPUBLICAN
STEALING THE 2024 ELECTION.
I THINK THE DANGER IS MORE CLEAR
AND MORE PRESENT.
THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF THE BIG
LIE THAT LED TO THE JANUARY 6th
INSURRECTION AND THAT I THINK
HAS THE POTENTIAL OF STOKING
MORE POLITICAL VIOLENCE.
THERES MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO
ARE LISTENING TO THIS AND
BELIEVING THIS.
WHETHER TRUMP BELIEVES HE WILL
BE REINSTATED OR NOT, DOESNT
MATTER.
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE
IT.
THIS WILL STOKE THE OUTRAGE, THE
ANGER, DISAPPOINTMENT,
DISILLUSIONMENT.
THINGS ARE IN REALLY VOLATILE
STATE HERE.
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THIS
EXTENSION OF THE BIG LIE.
THE FACT THAT THE FORMER
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
WHO COULD BE PRESIDENT ONCE
AGAIN IS LISTENING TO THE
DERANGED RANTINGS OF A SYDNEY
POWELL OR MY PILLOW GUY IS
DISTURBING ON EVERY POSSIBLE
LEVEL AND ONCE AGAIN, YOU SEE
ABSOLUTE STRATEGIC SILENCE FROM
MOST REPUBLICANS.
LIZ CHENEY IS RIGHT.
AS MUCH AS THEY WOULD LIKE TO
IGNORE HIM, WHATS HAPPENING
RIGHT NOW IS DANGEROUS.
THAT SPEECH LAST NIGHT WAS LOW
ENERGY, ITS STILL QUITE
DANGEROUS AND THE DAMAGE IS VERY
REAL.
>> REV, DESPITE WHAT MAX AND
CHARLIE ARE SAYING ABOUT HOW
DANGEROUS THIS IS, THERE IS ONE
PERSON WHO THINKS WHAT DONALD
TRUMP IS DOING IS GOING TO HURT
REPUBLICANS.
HAVE A LISTEN TO WHAT FRANK
LUNTZ SAID.
>> THIS COULD CAST THE
REPUBLICANS THE MAJORITY IN THE
HOUSE IN 2022.
WHAT DONALD TRUMP IS SAYING IS
TELLING PEOPLE ITS NOT WORTH IT
TO VOTE.
DONALD TRUMP SINGLE HANDLELY MAY
CAUSE PEOPLE NOT TO VOTE AND HE
MAY BE THE GREATEST TOOL IN THE
DEMOCRATS ARSENAL TO KEEP
CONTROL OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE
IN 2022 IF THE REPUBLICANS LOSE
THE MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE, THEY
WILL LAY THE BLAME AT THE FEET
OF DONALD TRUMP FOR TELLING
PEOPLE ITS NOT WORTH IT TO
VOTE.
>> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT
ASSESSMENT?
>> I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT WAS
A VERY GOOD ASSESSMENT FOR THE
DEMOCRATS UNTIL LAST NIGHTS
SPEECH.
LETS BE CLEAR.
DONALD TRUMP SAID LAST NIGHT
THAT HE BEWILL BE CAMPAIGNING FO
PEOPLE THAT SHARE THEIR VALUES
IN THE MIDTERM ELECTION.
I THE NOT THINK THAT DONALD
TRUMP TOLD PEOPLE DONT TOLD IN
VOTE IN GEORGIA IN 2020.
ACCORDING TO WHAT HE SAID LAST
NIGHT IS GOING TO BE INACTIVE IN
2022 AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
FACT, I THINK THE REAL DANGER OF
DONALD TRUMP IS NOT HE IS
DERANGED AND LISTENING TO
DERANGED PEOPLE, I THINK THATS
CLEAR.
THE DANGER IS THAT MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE ARE LISTENING TO HIM
WHILE HES LISTENING TO DERANGED
PEOPLE.
THE LARGEST VOTE FOR PRESIDENT
IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED
STATES HAPPENED LAST YEAR.
JOE BIDEN GOT MORE VOTES THAN
ANYBODY IN ANY ELECTION IN OUR
HISTORY.
THE NUMBER TWO PERSON WAS DONALD
TRUMP.
TO THINK THAT THOSE MANY PEOPLE
ARE LISTENING TO HIM AND THEYRE
NOT GOING AWAY BY NEXT YEAR,
THAT IS WHAT IS FRIGHTENING AND
THATS WHY WE NEED TO REALLY
SOUND THE ALARM AND GET PEOPLE
TO COME OUT.
HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE BIGGEST
TURN OUT IN AMERICAN HISTORY
LAST YEAR, DONALD TRUMP WOULD
HAVE BEEN RE-ELECTED AND LETS
NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE AMOUNT OF
PEOPLE THAT ARE LISTENING TO
DONALD TRUMP.
>> NOT ONLY DID DONALD TRUMP GET
THE SECOND MOST VOTES EVER,
GIVEN -- DESPITE EVERYTHING
HORRIFIC THING HE DID IN FOUR
YEARS AS PRESIDENT, JAILING
BABIES AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS,
HE GOT 12 MILLION MORE VOTES IN
2020 THAN HE DID IN 2016.
WERE NOT BEING HYPERBOLIC HERE.
>> WERE NOT.
THIS IS ONE OF THE TRULY
FRIGHTENING FACTS.
IT REALLY SHAKES MY FAITH IN
THIS COUNTRY.
YOU HAD 400,000 PEOPLE DEAD OF
COVID-19, THE ECONOMY IN
SHAMBLES AND TRUMP STILL WON
MILLIONS MORE VOTES THAN HE DID
IN 2016.
THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT A SKILLFUL
DEMAGOGUE SHE.
HIS ABILITY SHOULD NEVER BE
UNDEREST MAITED.
THERES A TEMPTATION TO WRITE
HIM OFF AND SAY HE CANT GET
ENOUGH TO MAKE HIS BLOG WORTH
WHILE.
NOBODY CARES ABOUT HIM.
EVEN FOX NEWS ISNT COVERING HIM
LIVE ANYMORE.
I HEARD THIS KIND OF COMMENTARY
BEFORE.
NOBODY TOOK HIM SERIOUSLY IN
2015 OR EARLY 2016 WHEN HE WAS
RUNNING FOR THE PRESIDENCY.
THAT WAS A TIME THAT HILLARY
CLINTON CAMPAIGN ACTUALLY WANTED
TRUMP TO WIN THE REPUBLICAN
NOMINATION BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT
HE WOULD BE SO EASY TO BEAT.
LETS NOT MAKE THAT MISTAKE EVER
AGAIN.
ITS PERPLEXING, CONFOUNDING AND
VERY DISTURBING THAT HE
MAINTAINS THIS POPULARITY WITH
SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY.
ITS JUST THE FACT AND WE HAVE
TO OWN UP TO IT.
>> CHARLIE, LET ME THROW OUT
THIS POLL THAT I KEEP COMING
BACK TO.
CHARLIE, 53% OF REPUBLICANS
THINK THAT DONALD TRUMP IS THE
ACTUAL PRESIDENT.
HOW -- WHAT -- CHARLIE, JUST GO.
EXPLAIN IT.
SDPLP
>> THIS IS WHY THE RIGHT WINGS
DOOM OF CRAZY IS SO FRIGHTENING
AND TO REVEREND ALS POINT, THE
FACT THE PRESIDENT MIGHT BELIEVE
THIS AND THE FACT THERES TENS
OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WHO
THINK HES LEGITIMATELY THE
PRESIDENT OR WILLING TO SAY THAT
IS AN INDICATION THAT THIS IS
REAL.
WE CAN JOKE ABOUT IT, ROLL OUR
EYES ABOUT IT BUT WE HAVE SEEN