today we get another installment of the
reminder not to draw a gun on a cop
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hi everyone welcome to today's batch cam
lesson here at active cell protection
I'm your host John Korea and I'm your
co-host Mike Wilber today's video comes
to us from Santa Ana California
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incident began as officers pulled over a
car for a traffic violation the driver
of the car admitted to being a parolee
so they got him out of the car in order
to Frisk him for weapons the guy that's
sitting in the passenger seat unknown to
these officers is a multi-time felon who
has a firearm stuck down in between the
car seat and the door we do have audio
you can see that the officer is talking
to him you're going to hear him talking
to him very politely it's going to
escalate in a hurry let's listen in on
the badge cams hey boss can you stop
reaching around just put your hands on
the dash put your hands on the dash dude
on the dash
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what okay we'll stop tucking your hand
into the side
okay
hey stop reaching around dude
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good yeah hey
hold on
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don't you move dude
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31 833 Alpha 998
McClay south of first
hold on
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oh those on three
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the one officer fired multiple shots hit
this guy he ended up not making it he
took the car by the roadside temperature
challenge thankfully the officers were
not hurt in this the parole a driver who
was sitting on the curb there uh his
butthole puckered enough that he sucked
up all of the gum on the sidewalks and
the courts counted that for multiple
hours of community service in you know
expunging his crimes I just want to take
a minute and say how proud I am this
officer was super super professional and
was chilled to this guy and then flipped
the switch and handled his business
let's talk about it in the lessons I
think a lot of people don't realize Mike
that if you're a parolee uh or a
probationy when you get pulled over by
the cops man to be out in the world you
have you know basically your rights have
been abrogated yeah that's true uh this
is California and if this guy's on
parole he almost certainly has what's
called a fourth waiver a fourth waiver
is where you agree to waive your Fourth
Amendment rights for the most part uh to
get out of prison early yeah so it's
essentially like you're you're in prison
but you're not in prison so you could be
stopped by a duly appointed peace
officer at any time probation parole you
know any kind of Le can can stop you at
any time check your car check your house
your bedroom the common areas your
person I really would have liked to have
seen them not call code for that other
car that just drove by just as a side
point if you got multiple people and
they're making you the slightest bit
nervous if you've got backup that's
stopping by to check on you you know
hang out for a minute let's get this guy
out of the car I would have liked to
have seen this guy out of the car on the
curb next to his buddy in a position of
disadvantage and how they opened that
door it might oppress the issue he might
have gone for the gun then or it would
have fallen on the floor or whatever but
that said that's not how it went and
listen officer did a good job here I
think first of all talking to him kindly
I think the officer was very
professional and but this guy's a
multi-time felon and he asked why in the
world would he draw a firearm and just
decide to go for it well the guy knows
he's going back to prison as soon as
they find that gun he's got a stendo in
his pocket and the gun is is an
unregistered firearm it's you know a
non-serialized firearm so that's going
to be felonies in California this dude's
going up the river for a long time and
he just decides nope I'd rather have a
gun fight with the cops so the officer
being prepared for that when the guy's
getting squirrely you need to shoot this
guy and the officer was prepared to do
so absolutely
um you know Ellie you have no excuse to
not have a sub second draw you got that
big old probably Safariland ALS bucket
on the side of you those things will
make your draw wicked fast but you still
have to practice it you still have to
work through your drawstroke with your
duty holster uh it's it's it's no wonder
he was able to get a gun that fast being
on duty being in uniform and he was
ready I think he sent something this was
about to happen in any way probably not
this officer's first rodeo so when the
gun came out he was ready for it now
please don't come at me in the comments
about how he was trying to hand the gun
to the officer or he was trying to say
hey here's my pistol please don't shoot
me that's not what was happening he was
about to shoot at that officer and the
officer was spotted appropriately in my
opinion so let's think about the first
shot here if you notice that the officer
has taken his first shot he backed up a
little bit to give him some space I
think he's done a pretty good job here
holding his b-pillar now you see the
shot here kind of broke in the middle of
the guy's shoulder but let's think about
where the center of available mass is is
if you notice the officer shoots dead to
the middle of what he sees as the threat
and and while that's not necessarily
kind of the high shoulder where we would
normally say it was the center of the
available mass and so I think it was a
good shot I think it was probably the
best that he had available in the moment
though he might have ended it quicker if
he brought that up and recognized my
available Target that I really want is
to put one in this guy's ear hole Yeah
we need to come up with a phrase like
Center of available mass or something
like that but that's a great point John
uh also I'm a little surprised he didn't
mag dump this guy because he knows he's
shooting through glass he's probably
Shot Through Glass and training and
knows although it's not the windshield
glass it's still pretty stout glass and
it's going to make bullets do funny
things but he managed to control himself
and not empty his magazine which for
which I commend him very good shooting
under the situation uh Center of
available mass is where that first round
went and I think that round was probably
more effective than he realized at first
and then if we look he continues for
firing as he strafes left I love that he
strafes left and then I want us to also
see the fact that hey he shoots now in
the center of the different available
mask because as he comes around the door
it looks differently I do love this mic
that he's strafed left so he went to his
zone of safety and we talk about this
with car stops all the time officers
remember hug your b-pillar and then if
everything goes down you move towards
that c-pillar you move towards the back
of the car that is your zone of safety
that puts you in a position of advantage
and that gave him even more margin for
Success here absolutely I talk all the
time in this space and on the podcast
about Elio's needing to move their feet
um during live fire training it can look
like whatever it needs to look like for
you if you want to use sim guns or
something to make it safer but when when
you draw your pistol it's almost almost
right it's not a rule it's almost never
advisable to be standing where you were
standing when the gun came out uh move
your feet in a direction that will get
give you more safety get you to addition
of Advantage get you some kind of cover
and you're right John that's exactly
what he did and this is pretty textbook
this should be probably taught in basic
Firearms classes for police I also all
think it's interesting here the Second
Officer he gets his gun out sees he's
gonna get his gun out and so he gets his
gun out as well but he doesn't fire and
why doesn't he fire well of course I
have not been able to interview the
officer I haven't talked to him
personally so I can't tell you for sure
but my guess is he didn't see the gun
and if he didn't see the gun he didn't
see the deadly threat his partner did
okay I didn't see a deadly threat so I
didn't fire I think that takes a
remarkable level of emotional maturity
to recognize I didn't have a reason to
fire a gun so I didn't yeah absolutely
we've had numerous videos where you've
seen a secondary officer who's not the
primary who's like who's the cover
officer who got the contact officer just
start shooting because they're partner
shooting he used incredible restraint
um speaking of which I just want to make
a note here this is LAPD and it doesn't
appear as though anyone has a radio in
their hand at this moment they're just
getting the job done which I I commend
to these two officers if you're watching
this if a friend told you hey you were
on active cell protection hit me up Mike
at actorsellprotection.com Mike at
activecellprotection.com and uh maybe
come on the show and talk about I'd love
to have you Mike I bet you they're going
to be frustrated at you because they're
actually Santa Ana PD not LAPD so uh and
why don't they have their mics in their
hand because Santa Ana PD actually
issues lapel mics so good for them on
that for doing that and that's why they
didn't have that in their hand these
officers I think did an incredible job I
think they were professional they were
polite they were prepared they handled
their business and covered their ass