THAT HAS TRANSPIRED IN UKRAINE. PLEASE STAY SAFE. THANK YOU AGAIN.
UKRAINE. PLEASE STAY SAFE. THANK YOU AGAIN. RUSSIA‘S INVASION OF UKRAINE
THANK YOU AGAIN. RUSSIA‘S INVASION OF UKRAINE HAS LED TO
RUSSIA‘S INVASION OF UKRAINE HAS LED TO BIPARTISANSHIP ON SEVERAL
HAS LED TO BIPARTISANSHIP ON SEVERAL FRONTS RIGHT HERE IN THE
BIPARTISANSHIP ON SEVERAL FRONTS RIGHT HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
FRONTS RIGHT HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. MOST LAWMAKERS AGREE. WE
UNITED STATES. MOST LAWMAKERS AGREE. WE SHOULD BE DOING MORE TO HELP
MOST LAWMAKERS AGREE. WE SHOULD BE DOING MORE TO HELP UKRAINE AND ACCORDING TO
SHOULD BE DOING MORE TO HELP UKRAINE AND ACCORDING TO RECENT POLLING. SO DO MOST
UKRAINE AND ACCORDING TO RECENT POLLING. SO DO MOST AMERICANS
RECENT POLLING. SO DO MOST AMERICANS THAT UNITY IS PART OF THE
AMERICANS THAT UNITY IS PART OF THE REASON THE US HAS BEEN ABLE TO
THAT UNITY IS PART OF THE REASON THE US HAS BEEN ABLE TO PASS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN
REASON THE US HAS BEEN ABLE TO PASS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN AID TO UKRAINE
PASS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN AID TO UKRAINE AS IT SEEKS TO SAVE
AID TO UKRAINE AS IT SEEKS TO SAVE UKRAINE‘S DEMOCRACY,
AS IT SEEKS TO SAVE UKRAINE‘S DEMOCRACY, BUT A NEW MSNBC, OP-ED
UKRAINE‘S DEMOCRACY, BUT A NEW MSNBC, OP-ED ASKS,
BUT A NEW MSNBC, OP-ED ASKS, WHY WE DON‘T SEE THE SAME
ASKS, WHY WE DON‘T SEE THE SAME BIPARTISANSHIP WHEN IT COMES.
WHY WE DON‘T SEE THE SAME BIPARTISANSHIP WHEN IT COMES. TO ADDRESSING THE
BIPARTISANSHIP WHEN IT COMES. TO ADDRESSING THE THREATS TO OUR OWN DEMOCRACY
TO ADDRESSING THE THREATS TO OUR OWN DEMOCRACY RIGHT HERE AT HOME MATTHEW
THREATS TO OUR OWN DEMOCRACY RIGHT HERE AT HOME MATTHEW DOWD, FORMER CHIEF STRATEGIST
RIGHT HERE AT HOME MATTHEW DOWD, FORMER CHIEF STRATEGIST FOR THE 2004 BOOK.
DOWD, FORMER CHIEF STRATEGIST FOR THE 2004 BOOK. ANY CAMPAIGN RIGHTS WOULD
FOR THE 2004 BOOK. ANY CAMPAIGN RIGHTS WOULD FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
ANY CAMPAIGN RIGHTS WOULD FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP VARIOUS GOP SENATORS AND
FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP VARIOUS GOP SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES
VARIOUS GOP SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES AND JENNY, THOMAS, THE WIFE OF
REPRESENTATIVES AND JENNY, THOMAS, THE WIFE OF JUSTICE CLARENCE THOMAS HAVE
AND JENNY, THOMAS, THE WIFE OF JUSTICE CLARENCE THOMAS HAVE DONE AND CONTINUE TO DO.
JUSTICE CLARENCE THOMAS HAVE DONE AND CONTINUE TO DO. IS THE GRAVEST THREAT TO OUR
DONE AND CONTINUE TO DO. IS THE GRAVEST THREAT TO OUR CONSTITUTION AND
IS THE GRAVEST THREAT TO OUR CONSTITUTION AND 150 YEARS.
CONSTITUTION AND 150 YEARS. WE IF WE CANNOT UNIFY AROUND
150 YEARS. WE IF WE CANNOT UNIFY AROUND THE TRUTH AND SEE PAST
WE IF WE CANNOT UNIFY AROUND THE TRUTH AND SEE PAST OUR DIVISIONS
THE TRUTH AND SEE PAST OUR DIVISIONS THAT OUR DEMOCRACY IS IN
OUR DIVISIONS THAT OUR DEMOCRACY IS IN DANGER OF DYING BY SUICIDE,
THAT OUR DEMOCRACY IS IN DANGER OF DYING BY SUICIDE, JOINING ME NOW IS MATTHEW,
DANGER OF DYING BY SUICIDE, JOINING ME NOW IS MATTHEW, DAD. HE‘S AN MSNBC
JOINING ME NOW IS MATTHEW, DAD. HE‘S AN MSNBC ANALYST,
DAD. HE‘S AN MSNBC ANALYST, POLITICAL ANALYST AND MATTHEW.
ANALYST, POLITICAL ANALYST AND MATTHEW. THANK
POLITICAL ANALYST AND MATTHEW. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. FOR BEING HERE. IT‘S SO GREAT
YOU SO MUCH. FOR BEING HERE. IT‘S SO GREAT TO HAVE YOU AND IT‘S SUCH A
FOR BEING HERE. IT‘S SO GREAT TO HAVE YOU AND IT‘S SUCH A IMPORTANT OP-ED IN
TO HAVE YOU AND IT‘S SUCH A IMPORTANT OP-ED IN CONVERSATION.
IMPORTANT OP-ED IN CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. SERLEENA. GREAT TO
CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. SERLEENA. GREAT TO BE WITH YOU AND GREAT SHOW.
THANK YOU. SERLEENA. GREAT TO BE WITH YOU AND GREAT SHOW. YOU
BE WITH YOU AND GREAT SHOW. YOU GREAT SHOW YOU HAVE
YOU GREAT SHOW YOU HAVE THANK YOU. SO I WANT TO START
GREAT SHOW YOU HAVE THANK YOU. SO I WANT TO START OFF ACTUALLY WITH A
THANK YOU. SO I WANT TO START OFF ACTUALLY WITH A QUOTE FROM YOUR OP-ED.
OFF ACTUALLY WITH A QUOTE FROM YOUR OP-ED. IT‘S REALLY IMPORTANT POINT.
QUOTE FROM YOUR OP-ED. IT‘S REALLY IMPORTANT POINT. LAY OUT THE THREAT, AS YOU
IT‘S REALLY IMPORTANT POINT. LAY OUT THE THREAT, AS YOU SEE, I STARTED OFF WITH A
LAY OUT THE THREAT, AS YOU SEE, I STARTED OFF WITH A QUOTE SO LAY OUT THE THREAT AS
SEE, I STARTED OFF WITH A QUOTE SO LAY OUT THE THREAT AS YOU SEE IT
QUOTE SO LAY OUT THE THREAT AS YOU SEE IT TO AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
YOU SEE IT TO AMERICAN DEMOCRACY AND HOW VOTERS SHOULD REALLY
TO AMERICAN DEMOCRACY AND HOW VOTERS SHOULD REALLY PROCESS? WHAT‘S GOING ON HERE?
AND HOW VOTERS SHOULD REALLY PROCESS? WHAT‘S GOING ON HERE? WELL, THIS IS A UNIQUE
PROCESS? WHAT‘S GOING ON HERE? WELL, THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE WHENEVER
WELL, THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE WHENEVER THERE‘S BEEN A THREAT
SITUATION WHERE WHENEVER THERE‘S BEEN A THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY,
THERE‘S BEEN A THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY, OR
TO OUR DEMOCRACY, OR A THREAT TO A DEMOCRACY
OR A THREAT TO A DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD.
A THREAT TO A DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD. WE EXISTED AS A WORLD POWER,
IN THE WORLD. WE EXISTED AS A WORLD POWER, THE COUNTRY HAS UNITED AS A
WE EXISTED AS A WORLD POWER, THE COUNTRY HAS UNITED AS A WHOLE
THE COUNTRY HAS UNITED AS A WHOLE TO CONFRONT THE THREAT AND
WHOLE TO CONFRONT THE THREAT AND WE DON‘T SEE THAT IN THIS
TO CONFRONT THE THREAT AND WE DON‘T SEE THAT IN THIS INSTANCE, AT ALL.
WE DON‘T SEE THAT IN THIS INSTANCE, AT ALL. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, SEEMS
INSTANCE, AT ALL. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, SEEMS ROCK SOLID IN SUPPORT OF WHAT
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, SEEMS ROCK SOLID IN SUPPORT OF WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY
ROCK SOLID IN SUPPORT OF WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6, THEY SEEM ROCK SOLID AND
HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6, THEY SEEM ROCK SOLID AND UNDERMINING VOTING RIGHTS.
6, THEY SEEM ROCK SOLID AND UNDERMINING VOTING RIGHTS. THEY
UNDERMINING VOTING RIGHTS. THEY SEEMED VERY MUCH IN LINE
THEY SEEMED VERY MUCH IN LINE ON ANY EFFORT
SEEMED VERY MUCH IN LINE ON ANY EFFORT TO DIMINISH, OUR DEMOCRACY,
ON ANY EFFORT TO DIMINISH, OUR DEMOCRACY, AND THAT IS INCREDIBLY
TO DIMINISH, OUR DEMOCRACY, AND THAT IS INCREDIBLY CONCERNING. BECAUSE IF WE
AND THAT IS INCREDIBLY CONCERNING. BECAUSE IF WE CAN‘T UNITE AROUND THAT,
CONCERNING. BECAUSE IF WE CAN‘T UNITE AROUND THAT, AND BECAUSE
CAN‘T UNITE AROUND THAT, AND BECAUSE IN BLAH,
AND BECAUSE IN BLAH, LARGE PART BECAUSE A BIG LIE
IN BLAH, LARGE PART BECAUSE A BIG LIE HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO SPREAD,
LARGE PART BECAUSE A BIG LIE HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO SPREAD, THEN WE REALLY HAVE
HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO SPREAD, THEN WE REALLY HAVE DIFFICULTY
THEN WE REALLY HAVE DIFFICULTY DESCRIBING OUR SELF AS A
DIFFICULTY DESCRIBING OUR SELF AS A HEALTHY GOVERNING DEMOCRACY IN
DESCRIBING OUR SELF AS A HEALTHY GOVERNING DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD,
HEALTHY GOVERNING DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD, AND WE HAVE
THE WORLD, AND WE HAVE VERY HIGHER DEGREE OF
AND WE HAVE VERY HIGHER DEGREE OF DIFFICULTY
VERY HIGHER DEGREE OF DIFFICULTY LEADING IN THE WORLD AS A
DIFFICULTY LEADING IN THE WORLD AS A DEMOCRACY. AND SO I
LEADING IN THE WORLD AS A DEMOCRACY. AND SO I THINK THAT‘S THE STAKES. THE
DEMOCRACY. AND SO I THINK THAT‘S THE STAKES. THE STAKES ARE INCREDIBLY HIGH AS
THINK THAT‘S THE STAKES. THE STAKES ARE INCREDIBLY HIGH AS I LAID OUT AND YOU
STAKES ARE INCREDIBLY HIGH AS I LAID OUT AND YOU READ AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS,
I LAID OUT AND YOU READ AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, WE HAD NOT ONLY A PRESIDENT
READ AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, WE HAD NOT ONLY A PRESIDENT KNIGHTED STATES AND US
WE HAD NOT ONLY A PRESIDENT KNIGHTED STATES AND US SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES.
KNIGHTED STATES AND US SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES. WE ALSO HAD THE WIFE OF A
SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES. WE ALSO HAD THE WIFE OF A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE
WE ALSO HAD THE WIFE OF A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ACTIVELY
SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN AN
ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN AN BUBBLING IN FACILITATING AN
INVOLVED IN AN BUBBLING IN FACILITATING AN INSURRECTION AT THE CAPITOL.
BUBBLING IN FACILITATING AN INSURRECTION AT THE CAPITOL. WE‘VE NEVER SEEN THAT IN OUR
INSURRECTION AT THE CAPITOL. WE‘VE NEVER SEEN THAT IN OUR HISTORY.
WE‘VE NEVER SEEN THAT IN OUR HISTORY. I MEAN, YOU MENTIONED THE
HISTORY. I MEAN, YOU MENTIONED THE JENNY THOMAS STORY, WHICH I
I MEAN, YOU MENTIONED THE JENNY THOMAS STORY, WHICH I THINK ACTUALLY HAVING
JENNY THOMAS STORY, WHICH I THINK ACTUALLY HAVING PROCESSED IT.
THINK ACTUALLY HAVING PROCESSED IT. I WAS OFF A FEW DAYS LAST
PROCESSED IT. I WAS OFF A FEW DAYS LAST WEEK,
I WAS OFF A FEW DAYS LAST WEEK, YOU KNOW FOR A FEW DAYS
WEEK, YOU KNOW FOR A FEW DAYS REMOVED FROM JUST THE EVERYDAY
YOU KNOW FOR A FEW DAYS REMOVED FROM JUST THE EVERYDAY NEWS CYCLE,
REMOVED FROM JUST THE EVERYDAY NEWS CYCLE, IT GOT BIGGER IN MY
NEWS CYCLE, IT GOT BIGGER IN MY MIND. I MEAN, DO YOU THINK
IT GOT BIGGER IN MY MIND. I MEAN, DO YOU THINK AMERICANS REALLY GRASP?
MIND. I MEAN, DO YOU THINK AMERICANS REALLY GRASP? WHAT HAPPENED IN
AMERICANS REALLY GRASP? WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST
WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST ELECTION
THE LAST ELECTION AND AND REALIZED THAT
ELECTION AND AND REALIZED THAT 2022 COULD BE THE LAST
AND AND REALIZED THAT 2022 COULD BE THE LAST REAL DEMOCRATIC ELECTION. WE
2022 COULD BE THE LAST REAL DEMOCRATIC ELECTION. WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY
REAL DEMOCRATIC ELECTION. WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY IF WE DON‘T.
HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY IF WE DON‘T. TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE
IF WE DON‘T. TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THE CONGRESS.
TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THE CONGRESS. THE GOP MEMBERS IN CONGRESS.
THE CONGRESS. THE GOP MEMBERS IN CONGRESS. AT LEAST BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY
THE GOP MEMBERS IN CONGRESS. AT LEAST BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY OR ACT LIKE IT.
AT LEAST BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY OR ACT LIKE IT. WELL, YOU KNOW THAT THAT
OR ACT LIKE IT. WELL, YOU KNOW THAT THAT THAT THE BIGGER CONCERN TO ME
WELL, YOU KNOW THAT THAT THAT THE BIGGER CONCERN TO ME IS THAT YOU HAVE, I MEAN,
THAT THE BIGGER CONCERN TO ME IS THAT YOU HAVE, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SOME AWFUL
IS THAT YOU HAVE, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SOME AWFUL LEADERS IN CONGRESS WHO DON‘T
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SOME AWFUL LEADERS IN CONGRESS WHO DON‘T SEEM TO WANT TO STAND UP. OUR
LEADERS IN CONGRESS WHO DON‘T SEEM TO WANT TO STAND UP. OUR DEMOCRACY IN THE CONSTITUTION.
SEEM TO WANT TO STAND UP. OUR DEMOCRACY IN THE CONSTITUTION. THAT GRANTED. THAT‘S A FACT.
DEMOCRACY IN THE CONSTITUTION. THAT GRANTED. THAT‘S A FACT. THE BIGGER CONCERN TO ME IS
THAT GRANTED. THAT‘S A FACT. THE BIGGER CONCERN TO ME IS THE VAST MAJORITY OF
THE BIGGER CONCERN TO ME IS THE VAST MAJORITY OF REPUBLICAN VOTERS
THE VAST MAJORITY OF REPUBLICAN VOTERS SEEM ALIGNED WITH THAT.
REPUBLICAN VOTERS SEEM ALIGNED WITH THAT. AND THAT I THINK, IS THE
SEEM ALIGNED WITH THAT. AND THAT I THINK, IS THE LARGER CONCERN IS
AND THAT I THINK, IS THE LARGER CONCERN IS THE SEGMENT. YOU LET IN HERE
LARGER CONCERN IS THE SEGMENT. YOU LET IN HERE TALKING ABOUT RUSSIA‘S ATTACK
THE SEGMENT. YOU LET IN HERE TALKING ABOUT RUSSIA‘S ATTACK ON UKRAINE, PART OF THE
TALKING ABOUT RUSSIA‘S ATTACK ON UKRAINE, PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IS THAT
ON UKRAINE, PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THERE‘S A COMMUNICATION
PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THERE‘S A COMMUNICATION CHANNEL
THERE‘S A COMMUNICATION CHANNEL IN RUSSIA THAT
CHANNEL IN RUSSIA THAT DOESN‘T ALLOW
IN RUSSIA THAT DOESN‘T ALLOW RUSSIANS TO KNOW THE TRUTH.
DOESN‘T ALLOW RUSSIANS TO KNOW THE TRUTH. AND SO MANY OF THEM
RUSSIANS TO KNOW THE TRUTH. AND SO MANY OF THEM THINK THIS IS JUSTIFIED,
AND SO MANY OF THEM THINK THIS IS JUSTIFIED, THINK THAT, THAT
THINK THIS IS JUSTIFIED, THINK THAT, THAT ATTACKING UKRAINE
THINK THAT, THAT ATTACKING UKRAINE IS A IS A IS DEFENSIBLE.
ATTACKING UKRAINE IS A IS A IS DEFENSIBLE. DON‘T HAVE ANY UNDERSTANDING
IS A IS A IS DEFENSIBLE. DON‘T HAVE ANY UNDERSTANDING OF THE WAR CRIMES OR THE
DON‘T HAVE ANY UNDERSTANDING OF THE WAR CRIMES OR THE ATROCITIES
OF THE WAR CRIMES OR THE ATROCITIES AND THE WE HAVE THAT SAME
ATROCITIES AND THE WE HAVE THAT SAME PROBLEM HERE IN A
AND THE WE HAVE THAT SAME PROBLEM HERE IN A SMALLER SCALE
PROBLEM HERE IN A SMALLER SCALE BECAUSE THERE IS AN
SMALLER SCALE BECAUSE THERE IS AN INFORMATION CHANNEL THAT GOES
BECAUSE THERE IS AN INFORMATION CHANNEL THAT GOES TO A GROUP OF VOTERS IN THIS
INFORMATION CHANNEL THAT GOES TO A GROUP OF VOTERS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT THEY HAVE REALLY
TO A GROUP OF VOTERS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT THEY HAVE REALLY NO IDEA ABOUT WHAT WE
COUNTRY THAT THEY HAVE REALLY NO IDEA ABOUT WHAT WE REALITY IS. AND I THINK THAT‘S
NO IDEA ABOUT WHAT WE REALITY IS. AND I THINK THAT‘S THE THING WE HAVE TO OVERCOME.
REALITY IS. AND I THINK THAT‘S THE THING WE HAVE TO OVERCOME. YES, WE
THE THING WE HAVE TO OVERCOME. YES, WE CAN KICK.
YES, WE CAN KICK. TAKE OUT CERTAIN PEOPLE IN
CAN KICK. TAKE OUT CERTAIN PEOPLE IN OFFICE. BUT IF WE HAVE 30% OR
TAKE OUT CERTAIN PEOPLE IN OFFICE. BUT IF WE HAVE 30% OR OR A THIRD OF THE COUNTRY.
OFFICE. BUT IF WE HAVE 30% OR OR A THIRD OF THE COUNTRY. AND 80% OF ONE OF THE
OR A THIRD OF THE COUNTRY. AND 80% OF ONE OF THE POLITICAL PARTIES
AND 80% OF ONE OF THE POLITICAL PARTIES OCCUPIED WITH BELIEVING
POLITICAL PARTIES OCCUPIED WITH BELIEVING CONSPIRACY THEORIES, BELIEVING
OCCUPIED WITH BELIEVING CONSPIRACY THEORIES, BELIEVING THE BIG LIE,
CONSPIRACY THEORIES, BELIEVING THE BIG LIE, NOT EVEN SUPPORTING THE
THE BIG LIE, NOT EVEN SUPPORTING THE ELEMENTS OF OUR DEMOCRACY
NOT EVEN SUPPORTING THE ELEMENTS OF OUR DEMOCRACY THAT IS INCREDIBLY CONCERNING
ELEMENTS OF OUR DEMOCRACY THAT IS INCREDIBLY CONCERNING AND THAT‘S NOT. THAT‘S THE
THAT IS INCREDIBLY CONCERNING AND THAT‘S NOT. THAT‘S THE FIRST TIME WE‘VE HAD THAT
AND THAT‘S NOT. THAT‘S THE FIRST TIME WE‘VE HAD THAT WHERE ONE OF OUR POLITICAL
FIRST TIME WE‘VE HAD THAT WHERE ONE OF OUR POLITICAL PARTIES WE‘VE HAD CRAZY
WHERE ONE OF OUR POLITICAL PARTIES WE‘VE HAD CRAZY PEOPLE.
PARTIES WE‘VE HAD CRAZY PEOPLE. WE‘VE HAD A PARTS OF THIS
PEOPLE. WE‘VE HAD A PARTS OF THIS COUNTRY THAT WERE RACIST AND
WE‘VE HAD A PARTS OF THIS COUNTRY THAT WERE RACIST AND SEXIST AND WE STILL DO
COUNTRY THAT WERE RACIST AND SEXIST AND WE STILL DO BUT WE‘VE NEVER HAD ONE
SEXIST AND WE STILL DO BUT WE‘VE NEVER HAD ONE POLITICAL PARTY COMPLETELY
BUT WE‘VE NEVER HAD ONE POLITICAL PARTY COMPLETELY OCCUPIED BY THAT. AND
POLITICAL PARTY COMPLETELY OCCUPIED BY THAT. AND THAT‘S THE DIFFICULTY. WE‘RE
OCCUPIED BY THAT. AND THAT‘S THE DIFFICULTY. WE‘RE IN. WHEN YOU HAVE POLARIZED,
THAT‘S THE DIFFICULTY. WE‘RE IN. WHEN YOU HAVE POLARIZED, ELECTORATE AND YOU HAVE
IN. WHEN YOU HAVE POLARIZED, ELECTORATE AND YOU HAVE GERRYMANDERING
ELECTORATE AND YOU HAVE GERRYMANDERING AND ONCE YOU ADD ALL THOSE
GERRYMANDERING AND ONCE YOU ADD ALL THOSE INTO IT WERE, THEN LED TO THIS
AND ONCE YOU ADD ALL THOSE INTO IT WERE, THEN LED TO THIS SITUATION
INTO IT WERE, THEN LED TO THIS SITUATION WHERE I FUNDAMENTALLY BELIEVE
SITUATION WHERE I FUNDAMENTALLY BELIEVE OUR DEMOCRACY IS
WHERE I FUNDAMENTALLY BELIEVE OUR DEMOCRACY IS IN PERIL.
OUR DEMOCRACY IS IN PERIL. SO WHAT‘S THE SOLUTION HERE?
IN PERIL. SO WHAT‘S THE SOLUTION HERE? BECAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED, IT
SO WHAT‘S THE SOLUTION HERE? BECAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED, IT EXTENDS BEYOND
BECAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED, IT EXTENDS BEYOND ELECTORAL POLITICS, SO WHAT
EXTENDS BEYOND ELECTORAL POLITICS, SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IS THAT
ELECTORAL POLITICS, SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IS THAT PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS CULTURAL
DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IS THAT PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS CULTURAL LEADERS, YOU KNOW, EVEN
PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS CULTURAL LEADERS, YOU KNOW, EVEN ENTERTAINERS,
LEADERS, YOU KNOW, EVEN ENTERTAINERS, ANYBODY WHO HAS ANY INFLUENCE
ENTERTAINERS, ANYBODY WHO HAS ANY INFLUENCE WITH, IN AMERICAN SOCIETY
ANYBODY WHO HAS ANY INFLUENCE WITH, IN AMERICAN SOCIETY SAYING THIS IS A CRISIS IN OUR
WITH, IN AMERICAN SOCIETY SAYING THIS IS A CRISIS IN OUR DEMOCRACY.
SAYING THIS IS A CRISIS IN OUR DEMOCRACY. WELL, I THINK THE FIRST PART
DEMOCRACY. WELL, I THINK THE FIRST PART OF IT IS THAT WE
WELL, I THINK THE FIRST PART OF IT IS THAT WE ALL WHO BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY
OF IT IS THAT WE ALL WHO BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY AND WANT TO FIGHT FOR IT, HAVE
ALL WHO BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY AND WANT TO FIGHT FOR IT, HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE FIGHT
AND WANT TO FIGHT FOR IT, HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE FIGHT IS NEVER OVER THE FIGHT
TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE FIGHT IS NEVER OVER THE FIGHT WASN‘T OVER IN 1865.
IS NEVER OVER THE FIGHT WASN‘T OVER IN 1865. IT CONTINUED ON FOR
WASN‘T OVER IN 1865. IT CONTINUED ON FOR 100 YEARS. THE FRIGHT WASN‘T
IT CONTINUED ON FOR 100 YEARS. THE FRIGHT WASN‘T OVER WHEN WOMEN GOT THE RIGHT
100 YEARS. THE FRIGHT WASN‘T OVER WHEN WOMEN GOT THE RIGHT TO VOTE. THE FIGHT WASN‘T OVER
OVER WHEN WOMEN GOT THE RIGHT TO VOTE. THE FIGHT WASN‘T OVER WHEN THE END OF CIVIL RIGHTS.
TO VOTE. THE FIGHT WASN‘T OVER WHEN THE END OF CIVIL RIGHTS. THE FIGHT HAS NEVER BEEN OVER
WHEN THE END OF CIVIL RIGHTS. THE FIGHT HAS NEVER BEEN OVER EVERY TIME WE THINK. OKAY,
THE FIGHT HAS NEVER BEEN OVER EVERY TIME WE THINK. OKAY, WE‘VE NOW ARRIVED AT
EVERY TIME WE THINK. OKAY, WE‘VE NOW ARRIVED AT A UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE AND
WE‘VE NOW ARRIVED AT A UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE AND A DEMOCRACY WHERE EVERYBODY
A UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE AND A DEMOCRACY WHERE EVERYBODY HAS EQUAL
A DEMOCRACY WHERE EVERYBODY HAS EQUAL EQUAL JUSTICE AND EQUAL
HAS EQUAL EQUAL JUSTICE AND EQUAL RIGHTS. WE‘RE NOT THERE AND SO
EQUAL JUSTICE AND EQUAL RIGHTS. WE‘RE NOT THERE AND SO WE HAVE
BUT I THINK FUNDAMENTALLY
BUT I THINK FUNDAMENTALLY IT‘S
IT‘S GOING TO BE REACHED.
IT‘S GOING TO BE REACHED. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO
IT‘S GOING TO BE REACHED. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE REACHED THROUGH POLITICAL
THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE REACHED THROUGH POLITICAL ENDS
BE REACHED THROUGH POLITICAL ENDS BY AND LARGE OBVIOUSLY
ENDS BY AND LARGE OBVIOUSLY ELECTIONS MATTER, BUT THEY‘RE
BY AND LARGE OBVIOUSLY ELECTIONS MATTER, BUT THEY‘RE GOING TO BE REACHED THROUGH
ELECTIONS MATTER, BUT THEY‘RE GOING TO BE REACHED THROUGH BUSINESSES, THROUGH
GOING TO BE REACHED THROUGH BUSINESSES, THROUGH COMMUNITY GROUPS, THROUGH ALL
BUSINESSES, THROUGH COMMUNITY GROUPS, THROUGH ALL OF THAT SPEAKING TRUTH.
COMMUNITY GROUPS, THROUGH ALL OF THAT SPEAKING TRUTH. SPEAKING SAYING HEY, YOU KNOW,
OF THAT SPEAKING TRUTH. SPEAKING SAYING HEY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU‘RE, IF YOU CARE ABOUT
SPEAKING SAYING HEY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU‘RE, IF YOU CARE ABOUT MEDICARE, IF YOU CARE ABOUT
IF YOU‘RE, IF YOU CARE ABOUT MEDICARE, IF YOU CARE ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY, IF YOU CARE
MEDICARE, IF YOU CARE ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY, IF YOU CARE ABOUT ROADS, IF YOU
SOCIAL SECURITY, IF YOU CARE ABOUT ROADS, IF YOU CARE ABOUT JOBS, IF YOU CARE
ABOUT ROADS, IF YOU CARE ABOUT JOBS, IF YOU CARE ABOUT ANYTHING
CARE ABOUT JOBS, IF YOU CARE ABOUT ANYTHING DEMOCRACY IS WHAT PRESERVES
ABOUT ANYTHING DEMOCRACY IS WHAT PRESERVES THOSE THINGS. SO, JUST
DEMOCRACY IS WHAT PRESERVES THOSE THINGS. SO, JUST ABANDONING DEMOCRACY.
THOSE THINGS. SO, JUST ABANDONING DEMOCRACY. TO GET ONE SPECIFIC THING THAT
ABANDONING DEMOCRACY. TO GET ONE SPECIFIC THING THAT YOU WANT MEANS THAT YOU‘RE
TO GET ONE SPECIFIC THING THAT YOU WANT MEANS THAT YOU‘RE GOING TO LOSE ALL OF THESE
YOU WANT MEANS THAT YOU‘RE GOING TO LOSE ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS AND WE ARE
GOING TO LOSE ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS AND WE ARE COMPLETELY
OTHER THINGS AND WE ARE COMPLETELY INTERCONNECTED
COMPLETELY INTERCONNECTED DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD ARE
INTERCONNECTED DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD ARE INTERCONNECTED. WHAT HAPPENS
DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD ARE INTERCONNECTED. WHAT HAPPENS IN
INTERCONNECTED. WHAT HAPPENS IN UKRAINE.
IN UKRAINE. WHAT HAPPENS HERE? WHAT
UKRAINE. WHAT HAPPENS HERE? WHAT HAPPENS IN POLAND? WHAT
WHAT HAPPENS HERE? WHAT HAPPENS IN POLAND? WHAT HAPPENS IN HUNGRY? HUNGRY IS
HAPPENS IN POLAND? WHAT HAPPENS IN HUNGRY? HUNGRY IS ALL INTERCONNECTED
HAPPENS IN HUNGRY? HUNGRY IS ALL INTERCONNECTED ONE DEMOCRACY DOESN‘T JUST
ALL INTERCONNECTED ONE DEMOCRACY DOESN‘T JUST STOP EXISTING ONE. DEMOCRACY,
ONE DEMOCRACY DOESN‘T JUST STOP EXISTING ONE. DEMOCRACY, DOESN‘T FAIL? THEY ALL BEGIN
STOP EXISTING ONE. DEMOCRACY, DOESN‘T FAIL? THEY ALL BEGIN TO FALL
DOESN‘T FAIL? THEY ALL BEGIN TO FALL AS PEOPLE THEN PURSUE AN
TO FALL AS PEOPLE THEN PURSUE AN AUTOCRATIC REGIME AND THAT‘S
AS PEOPLE THEN PURSUE AN AUTOCRATIC REGIME AND THAT‘S WHAT WE‘RE SEEING
AUTOCRATIC REGIME AND THAT‘S WHAT WE‘RE SEEING UNFOLD. AND IF IT HAPPENS IN
WHAT WE‘RE SEEING UNFOLD. AND IF IT HAPPENS IN THE UNITED
UNFOLD. AND IF IT HAPPENS IN THE UNITED STATES,
THE UNITED STATES, YOU THINK UKRAINE IS BAD,
STATES, YOU THINK UKRAINE IS BAD, WHICH IS GOD-AWFUL IF
YOU THINK UKRAINE IS BAD, WHICH IS GOD-AWFUL IF IT HAPPENS IN THE UNITED
WHICH IS GOD-AWFUL IF IT HAPPENS IN THE UNITED STATES THE
IT HAPPENS IN THE UNITED STATES THE GRAVITY OF WHAT THAT HAS AND
STATES THE GRAVITY OF WHAT THAT HAS AND THE GLOBE IS,
GRAVITY OF WHAT THAT HAS AND THE GLOBE IS, I DON‘T THINK YOU CAN
THE GLOBE IS, I DON‘T THINK YOU CAN CALCULATE.
I DON‘T THINK YOU CAN CALCULATE. I‘VE BEEN THINKING A LOT ABOUT
CALCULATE. I‘VE BEEN THINKING A LOT ABOUT THAT AS WELL, AND MATTHEW. I
I‘VE BEEN THINKING A LOT ABOUT THAT AS WELL, AND MATTHEW. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR
THAT AS WELL, AND MATTHEW. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY. I‘VE BEEN
JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY. I‘VE BEEN TRYING TO GET YOU ON FOR MANY
JOINING US TODAY. I‘VE BEEN TRYING TO GET YOU ON FOR MANY MONTHS BECAUSE I
TRYING TO GET YOU ON FOR MANY MONTHS BECAUSE I WANTED TO HAVE THIS EXACT
MONTHS BECAUSE I WANTED TO HAVE THIS EXACT CONVERSATION.
WANTED TO HAVE THIS EXACT CONVERSATION. AND I HOPE THAT YOU‘LL TAKE
CONVERSATION. AND I HOPE THAT YOU‘LL TAKE TIME TO JOIN US IN THE FUTURE
AND I HOPE THAT YOU‘LL TAKE TIME TO JOIN US IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE I WANT TO CONTINUE TO
TIME TO JOIN US IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE I WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVING THIS CONVERSATION
BECAUSE I WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVING THIS CONVERSATION THROUGH THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS.
HAVING THIS CONVERSATION THROUGH THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS. IT‘S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT
THROUGH THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS. IT‘S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO SORT OF LAY OUT THE STAKES.
IT‘S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO SORT OF LAY OUT THE STAKES. FOR WHAT A LOT OF FOLKS ARE
TO SORT OF LAY OUT THE STAKES. FOR WHAT A LOT OF FOLKS ARE SAYING IS REALLY THE LAST REAL
FOR WHAT A LOT OF FOLKS ARE SAYING IS REALLY THE LAST REAL ELECTION. AND I THINK THAT WE
SAYING IS REALLY THE LAST REAL ELECTION. AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO WRAP OUR MINDS AROUND
ELECTION. AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO WRAP OUR MINDS AROUND WHAT‘S HAPPENING BEFORE?
HAVE TO WRAP OUR MINDS AROUND WHAT‘S HAPPENING BEFORE? IT‘S TOO LATE. SO
WHAT‘S HAPPENING BEFORE? IT‘S TOO LATE. SO MATTHEW THING
IT‘S TOO LATE. SO MATTHEW THING SO MUCH FOR HELPING US
MATTHEW THING SO MUCH FOR HELPING US UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS IS SUCH
SO MUCH FOR HELPING US UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION.