My question to you,
is do you wanna be transparent
about everything that's going on here
or do you wanna try and fuzzy this up
and manipulate the situation?
Well we're not gonna beat around the bush.
I was transparent for four and a half months with you.
And I know that that seems--
There's no way you were transparent.
Okay, so hang on, hang on, hang on.
Wait a minute, stop.
Did somebody slip up and write stupid on my forehead?
(audience laughs)
Well--
No, no, look at me.
I asked you a question.
And you then started talking to him
;cause you don't wanna deal with me.
No, I do wanna deal with you.
No you don't, because when I said something to you
and then you completely ignored me
and started talking to him--
I do wanna be transparent.
Because he's easier to deal with than me.
I do wanna be transparent.
Okay, then you need to talk to me.
But I was transparent
for four and a half months, Dr. Phil.
That is the biggest problem here.
Have you been telling me the truth
ever since you got here?
Yes.
Not anything you've said since you got here
has been a lie by omission or a misstatement.
Billy does not, Billy--
I'm not asking about Billy.
I'm asking about you.
You and I have had a talk since we got here.
Is everything you've said to me been the truth?
Yes.
I've not lied to you.
I have told you exactly what has been going on.
Billy didn't know that I had lied to him
to save our marriage.
And that is why I came onto this show,
was to prove my innocence.
Five times, Dr. Phil.
I flipped flopped back and forth between this.
Five times.
The last time she hasn't taken it back yet though.
The reason I flip flopped was because every time
he would get upset, because he didn't believe
those virgin Marys, then he would say I'm done,
I want a divorce,
I want out of this.
So I would go back and say
whatever I had to to get us through--
That's bologna.
Because she would never take her first confession back
if she felt that way.
She sure wouldn't have given me a second confession
and third confession and fourth confession,
a fifth confession, every time they change.
Not when you're willing to do whatever it takes.
She's cloned my Facebook page.
In my mind--
She's made extra email accounts.
All these accounts, Dr. Phil.
In my mind, Dr. Phil--
But the hacker has done everything that has been done.
If I could say whatever it took to get him to hold on
to our family long enough until I could get the proof.
Dr. Phil, I knew that if I could get the proof,
that the true--
There is no proof.
She has the proof.
(audience chuckles)
The real proof. She is the proof.
Real help.
Somebody who would get into this and figure it out.
I knew that--
So you hired a PI.
Yes, I reached out to a private investigator.
And what did he conclude?
It cost me $2,000 to find out that she's doing it.
(audience laughs)
Let me just say, Dr. Phil.
(audience claps)
I reached out...
What did he conclude?
He came back with results that as of the facts stating
that it would only seem as though I was doing this.
Now let me say...
So here's the statement from the PI.
I hired him to do the forensics.
August 18, 2018.
The three main take away points on our research to date,
in my opinion are:
There is absolutely no evidence that this iPhone
has been rooted, hacked or remotely manipulated.
A large number of apps and tools on the phone
are tools not normally found in the private sector,
and are highly sophisticated tools used to hack
other networks and devices and would require a skill set
normally found in someone with an extensive background
in IT or hacking.
These apps appear to have been downloaded
and or accessed by the owner of the phone
or by the owner with another person's assistance.
Okay let me say.
When I hired, when we reached out to him,
he was supposed to do a full forensics on this phone.
He did not do a full forensics.
I wanted to know everything
down to if anything had been altered,
who had been altered by,
when it had been altered, everything.
Have you had 35 email accounts?
From the time I was 16.
Time out.
Nope, nope, nope.
Dr. Phil, we deleted 50 accounts 10 years ago.
This has all started since we got married.
That's an exaggeration.
Since we got together.
No it's not an exaggeration.
Billy.
Well I've got--
How many was it?
I've got screen grabs of 16 of 'em myself.
Okay.
No, we're talking about prior.
This all started since we got married.
Okay let me just say that the ones
that we have found through all of this are not all of mine.
Bologna.
Babe.
Except one or two maybe.
But the other 50 were yours.
Babe.
Okay, we've lured your name on these,
but why do you need so many email accounts?
Not all of them are mine.
And the reason I needed so many email accounts
was because I had a letter and number sequence
that I would do, okay?
Now I've learned through the years not to do things
like that because I can't keep up
with the letter and number sequence that I would do.
Or I couldn't keep up with the passwords.