i think there's a time and a place for a
less lethal tool today we're going to
talk about whether this is one
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hi everyone welcome to today's lesson
here at active self protection i am your
host john korea today's video comes to
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description see this dude walking up and
and he's got a bunch of crap in his
hands including you know like a bike
frame or whatever let's listen into what
happens on the audio from here
get out of here right
now get out of here now
let's get to that right
right now
you got five seconds
safety's coming off
now
you [ __ ] open the door
he came up here and opened the door
there's actually a short interview
that's kind of a marketing thing for the
you know brno launcher that he was using
here uh that i put a link in the
description to which has a little bit of
discussion with the homeowner on this
one on the original video he also has
some discussion of what happened uh he
did call the sheriff the sheriff said
that he could have shot the guy when he
was inside his house but that he did the
right thing that dude wandered off
wasn't arrested for anything yay
california let's think about lessons all
right what do you think given the fact
that he's in california is this one
where you think yeah man a less lethal
like that you know pepper ball launcher
is important and good or would you
rather have used the firearm i'm
interested in your take really want to
start this one with thinking about being
smart because i know people are going to
think that he is immediately trespassing
but really at this point he's not your
front door somebody coming up to your
front door is something that is very
common if you don't have a gate around
your entire property you have access to
your front door then that's an open
invitation for somebody to come and
knock on your front door and so at this
point he's not doing anything that is
criminal though i mean you know again he
looks a little weird with all his stuff
in his hands or whatever now our
homeowner said he was watching this guy
walk up i don't know if he was watching
him through the window or on the
surveillance cameras i'm not sure but
you could see the fact that this dude
does not have anything in his hands okay
fine but this right here that he does
this is breaking and entering this right
here is a forcible entry because he had
to use any amount of force to open the
door a normal reasonable person would
not open the door to a home that was not
theirs that is a forcible entry and now
what you have is you have a home
invasion and now of course the laws of
your states might vary as opposed to how
much force you can use exactly when
but
generally speaking can you use deadly
force to stop a home invasion well you
know again it gets a little bit more
tricky than yes and no generally
speaking you can use deadly force to
protect your life against a deadly
threat and oftentimes you know somebody
that's breaking into your home could be
assumed to be a deadly threat but it's a
rebuttable presumption so again use the
amount of force you have to i think a
challenge here is very smart especially
if he's seen the guy has nothing in his
hand so as soon as the the homeowner you
know hollers at him and says hey man get
out of here that guy closes the door and
runs off kind of with his hands in the
air a verbal challenge is a very good
thing you notice here again the
homeowner is just just hollers at him
and says hey man get the heck out of
here what the heck are you doing and
that drives the guy off i think that
that kind of verbal challenge is a very
smart tactic because again for a guy
like this who is is probably just
non-compass menace he's probably just
not thinking clearly or whatever then
that'll drive him off and keep you from
having to use deadly force or any kind
of force which is far easier for you in
the long run now our homeowner does come
out here and and i really don't
recommend exiting the home that guy has
already exited and closed the door i
think your best bet in that case is to
hunker down inside the house call 9-1-1
and get away from him rather than
pursuing him because now he just gave up
a barrier don't think this was the
wisest secondarily here i really want to
pay attention to the fact that our
homeowner has put himself in a place
where he is now pointing this device at
a guy now what would that guy normally
and notionally think is going on here i
think he is going to believe and going
to think not that he has some kind of oc
launcher in his hand but that is a gun
shaped object and so he is pointing a
gun shaped object at him in the front
yard now i don't think it's going to end
up hurting him here because you know
he's a good person and he's a homeowner
and this guy's broken into his house and
all that stuff but recognizes one of the
reasons that i'm not a huge fan of these
devices that are shaped like guns that
launch oc or those kinds of things
because they can make it certainly seem
to everyone else including responding
officers like what you're holding as a
gun
the other part of that here is yes he's
got this availability to use that but
notice that he gives up his distance
here in order to just like continue
giving this guy commands i would
strongly have preferred maintain your
distance you've got a distance tool
there's no reason to close that distance
down where if you had to use this you
know it's it's like a oc kind of powder
that there's a much greater chance
you're going to get some blowback on you
than if you had that distance so
recognize the use of your tool and and
how its advantages work for you and
against you and use them to their
advantages rather than to their
disadvantages now i'm not saying this
wasn't the right choice i think actually
it was a great choice for him to let
this guy run off to say hey man just get
the heck out of here now of course there
was some time here where our perp
decided he didn't want to participate he
didn't want to to say you know yeah i'll
go whatever he was arguing with the guy
so what are you going to do when your
commands are ignored well you can use
what you know force is reasonably
necessary to eject a trespasser now he's
clearly a trespasser and so if he had
persisted in not leaving you could use
that force which is necessary to eject
him from the property ordinary physical
force not deadly and he had again he had
an oc you know ball launcher here which
is perfectly acceptable there i do also
think at the end here he's kind of
sitting on the front porch talking to
his wife watching the guy walk down the
street and i would strongly uh prefer
instead that they just get in the house
lock the door and call the sheriff
apparently they were about to have a
family member over for dinner or
something like that
and the sheriff came over everything was
fine the guy didn't even end up arrested
i do love having less lethal tools you
know that i also think having them in
the right place and knowing how to use
them correctly is incredibly important
if you're going to use something like
this some kind of oc launcher like this
particular one i think that they have
their place and in particular in this
case with an unarmed attacker might have
been a great choice to use just make
sure that you know how to do so
effectively i think this guy did a
pretty darn good job of covering his asp
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