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Getting right in to the beginning of it,
not all coilovers are created equal and
although it sounds like a pretty simple thing
to understand, people don't, really get that,
truly, not all coilovers are created equal.
There's a whole different slough of coilovers
that you can buy.
You can get full body coilovers that are available
with three types of damping adjustability.
The first being a coilover that has, like,
the manufacturer already preset the damping to
what they believe is best for your vehicle.
You have different types of coilovers, which are
valved for whatever types of springs that
they're with, which might be a good choice for
those that aren't very familiar with coilovers or
how they work.
And if you're not (mumbles) of the best way to go
there's other types of suspension systems that
are set up to where they're more adjustable
and not actually preset at all so that you
can dial them in yourself, if you're more of
an experienced individual.
And there's coilovers pretty much
set up for every step of your automotive life span.
And we've all started from somewhere and that's
kind of just the way that you learn.
So, don't feel bad if you're going in to something
that's a little bit more preset.
A lot of times the more expensive stuff, is
where you're gonna have more customization
and where you need to know more about the
product if you actually want to use it
to it's full potential.
Some coilovers are single adjustable,
which means that they have the ability to adjust
their damping controls with both rebound and
compression, together.
While coilovers that are double adjustable can
adjust their compression and rebound
independently from each other,
which actually is going to help
you with dialing it in on both
different types of situations.
Whereas, the other one is more
universal.
Now, some of the higher end coilover brands out
there range all the way up to 32 different set
positions that you can do to adjust your damping
and some are definitely more particular and
specific than others.
It pretty much all depends on how much the user
puts into the coilover.
If someone is just looking to slam their car and
nothing else, it wouldn't make a ton of sense to
get something with the most expensive coils out there.
They're going to give you a million different options.
However, for somebody that goes to the racetrack and races
their car, it would make more sense for them to get
a higher end coilover because they're more than
likely to put those adjustments to actual use.
Plus, those high end coilovers are going to end up
having more specific, dialed in intrcacies on the
inside of the bodies.
A lot of times, with some of the lower end quality
coilovers, those numbers actually don't mean
a whole lot.
While they may say they're 32, they may actually
only be, like, 16.
Some actually don't even adjust at all and it's
kind of just a crummy thing but, you're gonna want
to make sure that if that's something you're really
looking into, that those numbers and those
adjustments actually mean something.
There's also matter of a mono tube shock
versus a twin tube shock.
Now, a mono tube shock has a single chamber,
where the top section is hydraulic fluid and
the bottom section is filled with gas.
And while a twin tube has two chambers,
one that sits inside the other,
the inside chamber has the hydraulic fluid while
the outside chamber holds the gas, it's just two
different setups depending on, kind of,
what you're actually really looking to do.
There's pros and cons to both.
Typically, a mono tube shock will provide better
ride quality because a twin tube shock, the fluid
flows from the inner chamber to the outer one and
when it's being really put to use, the fluid can
actually start foaming, which will lead to
not so great ride quality.
It's actually a pretty common thing,
especially as seals start to deteriorate.
However, a mono tube shock will never allow the
gas and fluid to mix.
So, you never have to worry about that issue
actually happening.
Now, it does sound like mono tube is the answer and
for a lot people it actually is.
But, that's not to say that twin tubes don't have
their magic as well.
But, really when we're looking at a mono tube,
it does have some pretty big pros.
I mean the oil capacity in a mono tube is
gonna be much higher,
there's a free floating piston so it never
allows the gas and the fluid to actually mix.
Everything in it can be more precise from a
general point of view and ride quality but,
a twin tube allows you to actually tune in
what you want just a little bit more.
A lot of times, you have to be an expert,
in suspension, to run a twin tube set up appropriately.
And, although they cost about twice as much as
a twin tube shock, it can be worth it.
They're extremely durable, they require less
maintenance and are, generally,
just a better product than the
twin tubes, some, sometimes.
Remember, everything depends on the brand
and everything depends on the coilovers that you buy.
The quality's going to matter.
Usually what we recommend, is that if you're looking
to get coilovers, especially after market coilovers,
you do have to ask yourself, how much do you plan on
using the coilovers for their intended purpose?
And if your scale's a 10 out of 10,
we'd recommend not cheaping out and getting the
best you possibly can because, you can actually
do quite a bit with the proper set of coilovers.
Typically, people get coilovers for one of two
reasons though.
They either want to slam their car or they track it.
Although people do it for looks, it ends up,
just ending up just slamming it because,
that's what everybody likes to do.
Either way, it's a great way to be able to get a
coilover custom built to what you want and what
you're actually going to be using the coilovers for.
And that's what a lot of companies actually
out there are doing now and what you can come to
expect from buying after market suspension.
You can get anything from custom spring rates,
shock link, valving, and even different brands of springs.
So, for example Fortune Auto,
which we have out there now,
has all of these options.
And there's some other companies out there, like
BC Racing that also offers spring upgrades and some
other customizable options.
It is important to remember that you're not just
gonna want to get the most expensive thing on
the road because, coilovers aren't really something
you really brag about a whole lot because not a lot
people see it.
More than likely, you're just going to feel it.
And if you're not planning on using them for
their intended purpose, it's not really gonna matter.
Sometimes it's okay to not go over the top and
just buy what's going to be used.
And there's not gonna be really a point
in spending a ton of money on coilovers that are
meant, specifically, for track use, if you never
plan on doing that at all.
And that goes for pretty much everything,
not just coilovers.
Buy what you're gonna use and will suit your
actual personal needs.
A lot of times, with coilovers, they fall under
the same thing as really expensive wheels.
People get pressured into buying these very
expensive set ups the have absolutely no idea
what any of the adjustment actually means
and they have had no plans to actually make any
adjustments to them.
And a lot of those more advanced coilovers will
end up being more of a headache than you planned on
because, they just, that's just how it works.
There's another couple things with after market
suspension that you need to keep an eye out,
such as, just, when you're actually dialing in
your suspension you have to remember that when you
install these sort of things, it takes time
for your suspension to actually set.
Especially with the weight of your vehicle.
So, don't plan on just setting it up as if you're
gonna slam it on the ground because,
once the suspension actually sets, you're probably
gonna end up going a good quarter inch to
a half inch lower than when you were when you
actually installed the coilovers.
Another thing with after market coilovers is that
a lot of the entry brands can be pretty similar.
So, you're gonna want to make sure that when you're
doing your research, you do it appropriately.
Our recommendation is always to figure out which
coilover is specifically built for your platform.
Because a lot of times there are brands specific
to your platform that have dialed in an STI
platform, WRX, or EVO platform or a 350Z Nissan
platform, that are going to be really good at
that specific thing but, they may not be that great
at another platform.
A lot of times you'll be able to see that just
by researching the brand a little bit and with
a couple seconds of research, you'll be able to
make a much smarter purchase over the
grand scheme of things.
So, that's what we got to tell you about
after market suspension.
Drop a comment below and
if you have questions on coilovers,
I'm Alex from Fitment Industries.
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