THAT POLITICAL CLIFF LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN VIRGINIA DID THE
OTHER NIGHT. >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS
STRATEGY AT ALL, REPUBLICANS ON CAPITOL HILL REACTED TO
TUESDAY'S LARGE DEMOCRATIC GAINS IN NEW JERSEY, AND ELSEWHERE
AROUND WHAT THOSE RESULTS CAN MIDDLE EASTERN FOR NEXT YEAR'S
MID-TERM. JOHN McCAIN SAID UNLESS WE GET
OUR ACT TOGETHER, WE WILL LOSE HEAVILY.
MANY COLLEAGUES WEREN'T SO SURE. >> I'M NOT SURPRISED THE
DEMOCRAT WON THE ELECTION OVER THERE.
I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY SURPRISE PEOPLE THE MARGIN.
>> HOW MUCH THE PRESIDENT PLAYED INTO IT, IT'S GOING TO BE THE
PUNDITS WILL DEBATE THAT. >> THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN THIS
ELECTION WAS MORE ENERGIZED IT LOOKS TO ME THAN THE REPUBLICAN
VOTER. WHY THAT IS, I DON'T KNOW.
>> A LOT ARE SAYING IT'S BECAUSE OF THE PRESIDENT.
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, MAYBESH MAYBE NOT.
>> Reporter: ARE WE SEEING THE PRESIDENT POTENTIALLY BE A DRAG
ON HIS PARTY HERE. >> I DON'T KNOW.
R. IS THE PRESIDENT GOING TO BE A DRAG ON REPUBLICANS NEXT YEAR?
>> I DON'T THINK SO. I DON'T THINK SO.
ACTUALLY I THINK IF ANYTHING, IF HE HAD GOTTEN MORE INVOLVED IN
THESE RACES, IT MAY HAVE TURNED THE OTHER WAY.
>> THIS IS NOT A TYPICAL CYCLE WE HOPE TO REVERSE THIS THEND
NEXT YEAR. >> Reporter: ARE YOU WORRIED
ABOUT NEXT YEAR? >> NO, I LIKE A GOOD FIGHT.
>> TO HIM TILL LISS SAID ON TUESDAY QUOTE, HE GOT TO BE
RHINO, REPUBLICANS IN NEED OF OUTCOMES, THAT'S SOMETHING HOUSE
SPEAKER PAUL RYAN ECHOED IN AN INTERVIEW YESTERDAY MORNING.
>> IN VIRGINIA, NEW JERSEY, ELSEWHERE, WHAT IS YOUR -- DOES
THAT CAPPING YOUR READING OF THE CURRENT POLITICAL MOMENT AND OF
THE URGENCY SURROUNDING TAX REFORM IN.
>> IT DOESN'T CHANGE MY READING OF THE CURRENT MOMENT, IT
EMPHASIZES MY CURRENT MOMENT. WHICH IS WE HAVE A PROMISE TO
KEEP. WE HAVE TO GET ON WITH MAKING
OUR PROMISE. I ADORE GILLESPIE, I FEEL BAD HE
LOST, I THINK IT MEANS WE HAVE TO DELIVER.
>> JOE. >> ACTUALLY, I DON'T, I DON'T
READ ANY OF THAT AS NEGATIVE, I THINK PAUL RYAN IS EXACTLY
RIGHT. THEY HAVE TO GET THINGS DONE.
THIS HAS BEEN A DO-NOTHING REPUBLICAN CONGRESS.
THEY'VE CONTROLLED ALL OF WASHINGTON.
THEY'VE DELIVERED NOTHING. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT PLAYED
REALLY BIG IN VIRGINIA AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN THE STATE
WIDE RACES. I THINK, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
A GUEST ON LATER ON TODAY WHO HAS SAID THAT WE PAY TOO MUCH
ATTENTION TO PEOPLE THAT ARE DOWN BALLOT.
WE LOOK AT THEIR CHARACTERISTICS TOO MUCH, SOMETHING SUGGESTED IN
HIS TWITTER FEED THAT A BAG OF MULCH JUST ONE THE GOVERNSHIP OF
VIRGINIA. I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE HOURSH
FOR HALF NORTHAM. BUT THE POINT WAS, THAT IT
REALLY DID ALL FLOW DOWN FROM DONALD TRUMP.
HE HAS OFFENDED TWO-THIRDS OF AMERICANS, HE HAS OFFENDED
WOMEN. HE HAS OFFENDED A LOT OF
INDEPENDENTS. >> HE'S OFFENSIVE IN GENERAL.
I MEAN, C'MON. AROUND THE WORLD.
>> WELL, THERE IS NO C'MON HERE. I'M NOT DEBATING YOU.
I'M SAYING, DONALD TRUMP WAS THE CAUSE OF THE TIDAL WAVE.
HE WAS THE EARTHQUAKE THAT CAUSED, WELL, WE'LL JUST SAY,
WILLIE, THAT CAUSED THE TSUNAMI. THOSE REPUBLICANS, YOU DIDN'T
EXPECT THEM TO COME OUT AND DRAUMPB AND MOST OF THEM JUST
WERE POLITELY BRUSHING AWAY THE QUESTIONS.
BUT THERE IS NO DOUBT BEHIND THE SCENES HIM I'M SURE HEIDI CAN
TELL THIS, REPUBLICANS ARE FRETTING, BECAUSE THEY KNOW
UNLESS THEY ARE IN A DARK, DARK RED DISTRICT IN 2018, THIS IS
GOING TO HAPPEN THIS THEM. >> I DON'T THINK THE BLINDERS
ARE SO BIG BASED ON THE PEOPLE I TALKED TO YESTERDAY IN THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY, THAT WAS REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT WE HEARD
ON CAMERA FROM SOME SENATORS OF WHAT THE PARTY IS FEELING RIGHT
NOW. THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN WATCH
TUESDAY NIGHT, NOT JUST AT THE GOVERNOR'S LEVEL, DO UNDER THE
BALLOT THROUGH THE HOUSE FLIPPING IN A HISTORIC WAY, WHAT
HAPPENED IN MAINE WITH THE EXPANSION OF THE MEDICAID
BENEFITS, NOT SEE SOME CONCERN OVER A PRESIDENT POLLING AT 35%
AND WHO HASN'T DOTEN ANYTHING DONE, I THINK THIS PUTS A LOT
MORE PRESSURE ON THE TAX BILL WE WILL GET A PEEK AT TODAY.
>> IF ARE YOU A MEMBER LIKE BARBARA COME STACK SITTING IN A
HILLARY DISTRICT OR IN ILLINOIS, YOU WOKE UP IN A COLD SWEAT.
WHY? BECAUSE THIS REALLY WASN'T ABOUT
SOME DEMOCRATIC MODEL, MAYBE I CAN GAIN THIS OUT AND BE A RHINO
AND WIN. NO, IF THIS REPIECES ITSELF IN
2018, MEMBERS LIKE HER ARE TOAST.
THERE IS NO MODEL HOW YOU RUN AGAINST THIS.
THIS WAS A WAVE. YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE
CLAIMING VICTORY TODAY IN A DEMOCRATIC PARTY T. MODERATES,
THE LIBERAL PROGRESSIVES. BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS REPRESENTED
IN A WAVE, WHICH IS WHAT THIS WAS.
>> THE WHITE HOUSE YESTERDAY INSISTED THE DEMOCRATIC GAINS
HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PRESIDENT A. PERSON FAMILIAR
WITH THE PRESIDENT'S POLITICAL OPERATION CALLED THE RESULTS
UNSURPRISING. WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE FEAR LEVEL
FOR THE UPCOMING MID-TERMS, SAYS 2018 IS A FAR WAY AWAY, NOW AS
FAR AS 2016 IS IN THE PAST. STILL THE PRESIDENT TWEETED
YESTERDAY TO MARK THE I WAS IN OF THE 2016 ELECTION WRITING,
QUOTE, CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF THE DEPLORABLES AND THE MILLIONS
OF PEOPLE WHO GAVE US A MASSIVE 304 TO 227 ELECTORAL COLLEGE
LANDSLIDE VICTORY. JOE, LET'S SEE WHO IS STILL
STANDING IN THAT PICTURE. HMM.
>> WELL, WE WILL SEE NEXT YEAR, IT MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT
NEXT YEAR. BUT, HAROLD FORD, WE BROUGHT UP
THIS POINT YESTERDAY THAT AFTER THE 2016 LOSS, EVERYBODY WAS
FOCUSED ON HILLARY CLINTON, IT WAS ALL ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON'S
LOSS AND THAT'S WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
WE'RE STILL HAVING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE DIVIDE IN THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY. BUT IF YOU WANTED TO KNOW HOW
SICK THAT PARTY WAS, YOU LOOKED AT THAT TIME THOUSAND
LEGISLATIVE SEATS THEY HAD LOST OVER THE PAST SEVEN, EIGHT
YEARS. IT'S THE SAME THING WITH THE
ELECTION YESTERDAY. YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ED GILLESPIE
AND WHAT TYPE OF CAMPAIGN HE HASN'T ALL DAY.
THAT'S NOT THE STORY. THE STORY IS THAT THE DEMOCRATS
WERE DOWN SOMETHING LIKE 63 TO 37.
I DON'T KNOW NOE THOSE NUMBERS ARE EXACTLY RIGHT.
THEY CAME STORMING BACK. AGAIN, IT'S THAT TIDAL WAVE.
THEY CAN ONLY BE EXPLAINED AWAY BY ONE THING, DONALD TRUMP.
>> I AGREE WITH THE WAY YOU CHARACTERIZE.
I LISTENED TO THE HOUSE MEMBERS YESTERDAY, INCLUDING THE ONE
FROM VIRGINIA. HE SAID THIS RACE WAS NOT
NATIONALIZED. IN FACT, IT WAS.
THE REPUBLICANS DID NOT ACCOMPLISH A LOT IN WASHINGTON.
IT CERTAINLY PLAYED INTO VOTERS' MINDS, TRUMP HIMSELF WE ALL HAVE
BEEN KNOWN SUCH AN OBJECTIONABLE AND INFLAMMATORY FIGURE IT'S
HURT THEM BADLY. DEMOCRATS SHOULD NOT OVERREAD
THIS. YOU CAN LOOK BACK ON HISTORY AND
WHEN NEW JERSEY AND VIRGINIA GOVERNOR RACES HAVE GONE ONE
DIRECTION, IT'S SLIGHTLY MIXED. IT SHOWS WHEN DEMOCRATS DID
UPDATES THE MOST RECENTLY IN '05 THEY WERE ABLE GAIN.
GOVERNOR NORTHAM, HE FIT THE STATE.
HERE'S A DEMOCRAT THAT FIT GEORGE W. BUSH TWO TIMES FOR
PRESIDENT. IT'S UP CLEAR IF GIVEN THE
CHANCE TO HAVE CHOSEN A NOMINEE IN VIRGINIA, WOULD HAVE CHOSEN
DR. NORTHAM THE MESSAGE IS THAT BLUE DOG MODERATE LIL' LIBERAL,
PROGRESSIVE. IT TAKES BOTH WINS TO FLIGHT.
TO BE SUCCESSFUL, REMEMBER IT'S ONLY ONE YEAR SINCE DONALD TRUMP
WAS ELECTED. MIKA SAYS SO MUCH HAS CHANGED.
SO MUCH CAN CHANGE FOR THE BETTER OR THE WORSE, MY URGING
OF THEM, MY OWN PARTY IS, STAY FOCUSED, CONTINUE TO PICK GOOD
CANDIDATES, WORK WITH THE PRESIDENT WHERE IT MAKES SENSE,
ESPECIALLY ON TAXES AND OTHER THINGS, IT WILL BENEFIT THE VERY
VOTERS WE HAVE TO WIN BACK COME NEXT 84 AND OBVIOUSLY 2020.
>> YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT COMES DOWN TO BAKES.
YOU SEEN THIS ALL THE TIME ON THE ZOE SHOW BEFORE ELECTIONS.
IT IS OBVIOUS, BUT IT'S OBVIOUSLY THE REASON WHY PEOPLE
WIN IT. IT'S LIKE BLOCK AND TACKLING
FOOTBALL GAMES. IT'S TURN JUT, TURNOUT, TURNOUT.
YOU CAN LOCK AND SEE ACROSS THE STATE, ED GILLESPIE DID FAIRLY
WELL WITH REPUBLICANS. THOSE ADS, THAT BROUGHT A LOT OF
REPUBLICANS HOME, IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLLING.
JUST MIKE BARNACLE, MORE DEMOCRATS WENT OUT TO VOTE.
MORE DEMOCRATS STOOD IN LINE LONGER.
MORE DEMOCRATS CALLED THEIR FRIENDS, MORE DEMOCRATS TOOK
THEIR FRIENDS TO THE VOTING BOOTHS.
MORE DEMOCRATS WERE ENGAGED THAN REPUBLICANS.
IT WAS JUST BECAUSE OF A GREAT TURNOUT.
FEW LOOK AT NEXT YEAR'S ELECTIONS, IT'S GOING TO COME
DOWN TO TURNOUT AGAIN, BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS, THEY STILL HAVE A
TOUGH UPHILL BATTLE IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE
SENATE. >> JOE, NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
YOU SAW THAT IN THE NUMBERS AND THE PERCENTAGES YESTERDAY, IN
EVERY PLACE WHERE THEY VOTED. BUT BACK TO BASICS, ONE OF THE
BASICS WE HAVE TO MEASURE HERE AS YOU WALK AROUND ANY PLACE IN
THIS COUNTRY. THERE IS A LEVEL OF BOTH
EXHAUSTION AND EMBARRASSMENT WITH DONALD TRUMP.
>> YEAH. >> EXHAUSTION BECAUSE OF THE
TWEETS, MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY, EMBARRASSMENT BECAUSE I THINK A
LOT OF PEOPLE SIT AND THINK, IS THIS THE KIND OF BEHAVIOR WE
WANT FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?
WE SAW A CLIP FROM THE PRESIDENT AT THE TOP OF THE SHOW TALKING
ABOUT CONGRATULATING CHINA ON THE FACT THAT THEY'RE DOING FOR
THEIR PEOPLE WHAT HE IS UNABLE TO TO DO FOR OUR PEOPLE HERE,
THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF US. BECAUSE WITHIN MOMENTS OF HIS
ASSUMING THE PRESIDENCY ONE YEAR AGO, HE IMMEDIATELY RESCINDED
TPP THE TRANSPACIFIC PARTNERSHIP, WHICH WAS A
TERRIFIC BOONE FOR TRADING FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
THAT'S GONE NOW THE CHINESE AND RUSSIANS WILL DOMINATE THE
PACIFIC RIM. BECAUSE WE'RE WITHDRAWN.
>> RIGHT. >> YOU HAVE THAT.
THEN HAVE YOU THE REALITY, PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION IN THIS
COUNTRY. PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION TO THINGS
LIKE THE PROPOSED TAX BILL, THEY CALL IT TAX REFORM, NO, IT'S TAX
REVENGE IF YOU LOOK AT THAT BILL, THE ELEMENTS OF THAT BILL.
PEOPLE ARE SITTING OUT THERE IN THE DISTURBS, THE CITIES,
THINKING, WAIT A MINUTE, STATE AND LOCAL TAX, WE WILL NOT BE
ABLE TO PUT THAT ON OUR TAX RURPS.
YOU KNOW HIGH MEDICAL COSTS, STUDENT INTEREST LOANS
ELIMINATED? THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE HAVE.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM THEY ARE LIVING WITH.
>> THAT ITSELF THE PROBLEM THAT WILL DROWN THEM.
>> THE BILL, MIKA, THERE ARE SOME PORTIONS OF THAT BILL, THAT
TAX BILL, THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY INEXPLICABLE.
>> THAT ITSELF THE SORT OF THING WE HAVE TO PAY FOR.
IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE INSIDE GAME AND SEE HOW THE ELECTIONS
IMPACT DONALD TRUMP. MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE
ARE GOING TO BE LESS LIKELY TO FOLLOW HIM OFF THE CLIFF AND
ALSO A TWEET LIKE HE DID RIGHT AFTER ED GILLESPIE LOST AND
OBVIOUSLY COULD HAVE USED A LITTLE MORAL SUPPORT FROM THE
PRESIDENT. A TWEET KICKING HIM THE SECOND
HE WAS DOWN HARD SAYING HE LOST BECAUSE HE DIDN'T BOW DOWN TO ME
ENOUGH. THAT REMEMBERED BY MEMBERS IN
CONGRESS JUST LIKE THAT TWEET AND JUST LIKE HIS COMMENT
TALKING ABOUT THE MEAN GOP HOUSE HEALTH CARE BILL.
THIS IS SCAR TISSUE. IT ADDS UP.
WHEN YOU SEE SOMEBODY RUNNING AND COW TAIL TO YOU AS MUCH AS
THEY CAN. YOU STILL GET KICKED BECAUSE YOU
LOSE BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?
FIRST, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S CLASSLESS, IT'S HORRIFIC
MANAGEMENT. IT MAKES THEM LESS LOYAL.
>> IT'S MEAN, IT SHOWS HOW QUICK HE WILL TURN ON SOMEONE
TRANSACTIONALLY. OF THE TRUMP SUPPORTERS, MANY
ARE CLOSE TO YOU. I WONDER HOW LONG THEY CAN
ACTUALLY HOLD ON TO PROTECTING SOMEONE WHO CONSISTENTLY LIES,
LETS THEM DOWN AND EMBARRASSES THEM.
AT SOME POINT, THERE