from when to when did you
and Ms. Gutierrez
live together as a couple
in a house that she owned?
>> From October of 2015
until January,
February of 2017.
>> Judge Judy: And in February
of 2017,
where did you go, Mr. Holden?
>> I have moved to an apartment
located approximately 15
to 20 miles away
from the residence.
>> Judge Judy: Prior to October
of 2015,
you and Ms. Gutierrez
were, in fact, a couple.
>> On and off, yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: But it was not
until she bought this home
that you moved in.
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: Now,
you moved someplace else
practically immediately.
>> Correct.
>> Judge Judy: There are two
causes of action that you have,
one for making
false accusations,
I assume, to the police...
>> Correct.
>> Judge Judy: ...one for
an illegal eviction, and then
you want your property back.
>> Correct.
>> Judge Judy: So what I want
to know is what took you a year
to figure out that there was
an illegal eviction?
>> Didn't take me a while
to figure it out.
I just...
>> Judge Judy:
Well, what have you been doing
for the last year, sir?
If you were so aggrieved
at being asked
to leave the house...
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: ...which I don't
think she denies.
She asked you
to leave the house.
>> Mm.
>> Judge Judy:
Who put it into your head
that that's an illegal eviction?
>> Well, I was not properly
served eviction notice.
Therefore I will say
that's an illegal eviction.
>> Judge Judy: Well, but you
weren't a tenant, there, sir.
You were her boyfriend.
You were living in her house.
>> I was. Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: What makes
you think that, actually,
we want to be bothered,
courts want to be bothered
with your illegal eviction
when a relationship doesn't
work out and your girlfriend,
for whatever reason,
if it's her house, says,
"I think it's time
for you to go.
We're not getting along.
We're fighting"?
I assume you weren't
getting along.
>> Correct.
>> Judge Judy:
And you were arguing.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy:
And it's her house.
>> That's correct, too.
>> Judge Judy: And you think
that she has to tolerate...
Same would be in your house.
I would say the same thing
if it was you.
I'm not talking gender here.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: There's a
difference
if you have a lease and you...
To me, if you have a lease,
and you have your own bedroom,
and you pay rent regularly,
and you're not getting along,
and instead
of going to housing court...
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: ...and going
through an eviction process,
she throws you out and changes
the locks,
but she didn't want to sleep
with you anymore.
She doesn't want to clean up
after you anymore.
She doesn't have any affection
for you anymore.
Maybe you don't have
any affection for her anymore,
so I want you to get over
illegal eviction.
You've got it?
Perfect!
Now...
>> My property is what I'm
concerned with at that point.
>> Judge Judy: Then there we go.
Now we have something
that simplifies my life.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: So now you...
>> I apologize.
>> Judge Judy: Very good.
So now we have property.
Now I'm going to go
to Ms. Gutierrez.
You see how quickly I took care
of that piece of business?
You weren't getting along.
February 2017 you told him
to leave.
He left some major pieces there
because he couldn't strap them
on his back
or put them in his car.
That's a fair statement?
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: All right.
So there is some property
that you have control over.
I want you to list the property
of Mr. Holden's
that you have control over.
>> Well, his bed,
which I was sleeping in,
a couple of TVs...
>> Judge Judy: Where is it now?
>> I moved it with me
when I moved to Laredo
because I didn't want to mess up
the mattress, so it's...
>> Judge Judy:
So you have the bed.
>> I have the bed.
I have a couple of TVs
and some other things.
>> Judge Judy: No, no, no.
Let's be specific.
>> Okay.
>> Judge Judy: You have two TVs?
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: Which...
>> Two other large-sized TVs.
>> Judge Judy: You have
those two TVs?
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: Fine.
What else?
>> A monitor, a desk, some stuff
that was in the garage,
lawn mower, barbecue pit,
you know, large things.
>> Judge Judy: Well, have to
tell me because
we're going to prepare an order.
>> Okay.
>> Four rims and tires.
>> Judge Judy: I don't...
Listen to me.
If she misses anything,
but don't interrupt me again.
>> Correct.
Yes, ma'am.
Sorry.
>> Some...Yeah, some tires
with rims and some dishes
that his mother had given him.
>> Judge Judy: What else?
>> Oh, a PlayStation
with his DVDs,
and I guess
it's one of those speakers,
the surround sound.
>> Judge Judy: Did she leave
out anything?
>> Sure.
>> Judge Judy: Not sure.
Yes would be the answer.
>> Yes, ma'am.
She did.
>> Judge Judy: I think she
left out something.
She tried to be complete.
Maybe you have
something else...
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy:
...and I'll hear you.