LONG TIME, MICHELLE MALKIN, HOST
OF MICHELLE MALKIN INVESTIGATES
ON CRTV.
MICHELLE, A LONG TIME AGO SHE
CAME UP WITH A BOOK CALLED
INVASION.
YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING PEOPLE
COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY
ILLEGALLY AND LEGALLY.
APPARENTLY THERE ARE 130 PEOPLE,
TWO BUSLOADS OF THOSE MIGRANTS
FROM CENTRAL AMERICA.
THEY'RE IN TIJUANA, MEXICO.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
THEY'RE GOING TO DO NEXT.
DOES SOUND LIKE THEY WILL APPLY
FOR ASYLUM.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THE
OTHERS FROM THE ORIGINAL
CARAVANS HAVE SIMPLY GONE ACROSS
THE BORDER ILLEGALLY, IF THAT IS
EVEN HAPPENING.
>> RIGHT, STEVE.
HOW MANY OF THEM ARE JUST GOING
TO SIMPLY DISAPPEAR?
REALLY THE BOTTOM LINE QUESTION
THAT I HAVE TACKLED FOR MORE
THAN 20 YEARS NOW IS WHETHER
AMERICA IS A NATION OF LAWS OR A
NATION OF OUTLAWS?
WHETHER WE'RE A SOVEREIGN NATION
OR WHETHER WE'RE A SANCTUARY
NATION.
THIS IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT
SHOWDOWN.
FOR ONCE WE HAVE A PRESIDENT, A
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, AND A
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
THAT ARE EXPLICITLY DRAWING THE
LINE.
AND WHAT THIS ENTIRE SHOWDOWN
EXPOSES IS, THAT IT IS NOT JUST
THE FACT THAT WE HAVE HAD SUCH A
DREADFUL LACK OF A PHYSICAL
BORDER WALLS BUT, THAT THESE
GROUPS, THESE CARAVANS, ARE
EXPLOITING EVERY ASPECT OF
LAXITY IN THE SYSTEM.
THE FACT THERE IS MASSIVE
OVERLOAD IN THE ASYLUM SYSTEM.
THERE IS BACKLOG OF 700,000
CASES.
AS YOU ALLUDED TO, STEVE.
THIS IS WHY MANY OF THESE PEOPLE
ARE SIMPLY CAUGHT AND THEN
RELEASED.
THERE IS A TWO OR THREE-YEAR
AVERAGE DELAY IN GETTING AN
ASYLUM HEARING.
AS THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND
JEFF SESSIONS POINTED OUT
YESTERDAY, IT SHOWS YOU WHAT A
JOKE THE ASYLUM PROCESS IS IN
THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE ALL OF
THESE PEOPLE IN THE CARAVAN HAD
BEEN OFFERED ASYLUM IF MEXICO.
THEY DO NOT QUALIFY AS THE KIND
OF PERSECUTED, LEGITIMATE
ASYLEES WE SHOULD AWARD ASYLUM
TOO.
PETE: TIME LAG A LOT OF THEM
COULD FADE INTO THE SHADOWS OR
DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.
THE CATCH-AND-RELEASE PROGRAM,
ARE YOU CONFIDENT, MICHELLE, IT
WILL BE ACTUALLY ENDED?
CAN IT BE?
>> WELL WE DO HAVE A PRESIDENT
WHO HAS FIRMLY COMMITTED TO
ENDING IT.
BUT, IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN
THERE HAVE TO BE NUMBER OF OTHER
PIECES IN PLACE, NOT JUST A
PHYSICAL WALL.
WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE
BACKLOG.
THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH IMMIGRATION
JUDGES.
THERE ARE CERTAINLY NOT ENOUGH
DETENTION SPACES.
THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN
CRYING FOR YEARS NOW.
THERE ARE ESTIMATED 2,000, 2500
DETENTION BEDS IN THE ENTIRE
COUNTRY, WHEN WE HAVE THOUSANDS
OF PEOPLE CROSSING ILLEGALLY,
NOT JUST FROM THE SOUTHERN
BORDER BUT FROM THE NORTHERN
BORDER?
ALSO ENTERING THROUGH OTHER
PORTS OF ENTRY AND JUST
DISAPPEARING AS WELL.
IT HAS TO BE COMPREHENSIVE
IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT REFORM
THAT WE ADOPT.
AINSLEY: DO YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD
THAT THE PRESIDENT COULD DO THIS
THROUGH EXECUTIVE ORDER.
IS IT THAT EASY, AND IF SO, WILL
THE PRESIDENT DO THAT?
>> THERE ARE THINGS THAT HE CAN
DO BY EXECUTIVE ORDER.
I THINK THOSE ARE IN THE WORKS.
BUT THIS IS ALSO A CALL FOR
CONGRESS TO STEP UP TO THE
PLATE, BECAUSE AS HAS BEEN
POINTED OUT MANY TIMES THERE ARE
LOOPHOLES CONGRESS COULD ADDRESS
AND HAVEN'T.
WHY IS THAT?
BECAUSE THESE CARAVANS OF
MIGRANTS SERVE A LOT OF
PURPOSES.
THEY PROVIDE CHEAP LABOR TO BIG
BUSINESS.
YES THAT IS BOTH REPUBLICAN AND
DEMOCRAT BIG BUSINESSES THAT DO
THAT.
AND ALSO CHEAP VOTES TO THE
DEMOCRATS AS WELL.
STEVE: RIGHT.
AINSLEY: THEY'RE BEING
EXPLOITED.
IT IS A SAD THING.
I HARBOR NO ANIMOSITY FOR PEOPLE
LAW-ABIDING OTHERWISE, WHO ARE
SPEAKING A BETTER LIFE BUT THE
FACT IS WE HAVE A SIEVE THAT WE
ARE UNABLE TO DISCRIMINATE
BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE TO
DO NEFARIOUS THINGS AND PEOPLE
WHO ARE HERE SIMPLY TO IMPROVE
THEIR LIVES.
STEVE: GREAT POINT.
MEANWHILE WE WANT TO PLAY FOR
YOU A SOUND BITE WE'VE BEEN
PLAYING THIS MORNING, INVOLVES
CNN CHIEF WHITE HOUSE
CORRESPONDENT, JIM ACOSTA.
SAT DOWN FOR A ROUNDTABLE WITH
"VARIETY," THE ENTERTAINMENT
NEWSPAPER.
CLARIFY, HE IS TALKING ABOUT
HOW, LISTEN TO THE SOUND BITE,
TALKING ABOUT HOW THE PRESIDENT
WHEN HE ATTACKS THE PRESS WITH
#FACE NEWS, THAT IS AN ACT,
MR. ACOSTA SAYS, BUT IMPACTS THE
TRUMP VOTER AND SUPPORTER.
LISTEN TO THIS.
>> THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT
PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY DON'T
KNOW IT IS AN ACT.
THEY'RE NOT IN ON THE ACT.
THEY TAKE WHAT HE SAYS VERY
SERIOUSLY, AND THEY TAKE ATTACKS
FROM SEAN SPICER AND SARAH
SANDERS AND WHAT THEY DO LESS ON
A DAILY BASIS VERY SERIOUSLY.
THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THEIR
FACULTIES IN SOME CASES.
THEIR ELEVATOR MIGHT NOT HIT ALL
FLOORS.
STEVE: SO THE ELEVATOR MIGHT NOT
HIT ALL FLOORS.
HE GOES ON TO SAY THE
WHITE HOUSE ATTACKS ON THE PRESS
COULD INSPIRE VIOLENCE AGAINST
SOME REPORTERS.
THAT IS HIS WORRY.
>> YEAH.
THIS REEKS.
LET'S UNPEEL THIS ROTTEN BANANA
ON SOME LEVELS.
THERE IS THE VERY COMMON
DISPARAGEMENT OF TRUMP VOTERS
AND THEIR INTELLECT AND THEIR
A BOTTOM DWELLER, A BASEMENT
DWELLER LIKE JIM ACOSTA
SHOULDN'T TALK ABOUT ANYBODY'S
ELSE'S INTELLECTUAL FACULTIES.
NUMBER TWO, WHAT IS HE REALLY
DOING, WHEN HE ATTACKS THE
PRESIDENT FOR HIS CRITICISMS AND
HIS VERY JUSTIFIED CRITICISMS OF
THE PROPAGANDA MEDIA, NAMELY CFN
AND COLLUSION NARRATIVE NETWORK?
WHAT HE IS TRYING TO DO
DELEGITIMATIZE THIS CRITICISM OF
THE PRESS TO TAKE THIS TOOL AWAY
FROM THE PRESIDENT.
WHEN HE POINTS OUT THAT THEY ARE
SPREADING LIES AND FALSEHOODS.
THIRDLY, WHAT IS HE TRYING TO
DO?
AS YOU MENTION, STEVE, VERY
ASTUTELY.
THERE IS DANGEROUS UNDERTONE
WHAT HE IS SAYING.
WHAT HE IS SAYING EVERY TIME
TRUMP ATTACKS THE PRESS THIS IS
POTENTIAL INCITEMENT TO
VIOLENCE.
WHAT A DISGRACE FOR THIS
JOURNALIST TO BE FALSELY
SMEARING TRUMP SUPPORTERS AND
PRESIDENT TRUMP HIMSELF FOR
INCITING VIOLENCE WHEN WE KNOW
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS THAT
IT IS ORGANIZED LEFTIST
ACTIVITIES, THE SOROS GROUPS,
ANTIFA GROUPS, WHO ARE THE ONES
WHO FOMENTED VIOLENCE AND
DIVISION IN THIS COUNTRY.
THAT IS DISGRACE.
PETE: WELL-SAID.
AINSLEY: TELL US ABOUT THE
MANHATTAN FILM FESTIVAL IF I
UNDERSTAND THEY'RE FEATURING A
SCREENING OF ONE OF OUR
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS?
>> YES, AINSLEY ON SUNDAY I WILL
BE BACK IN NEW YORK CITY,
DESCENDING FROM THE MOUNTAINTOP.
WE HAVE VERY, VERY PLEASED AND
HUMBLED, HONORED TO BE A FEATURE
FILM AT THE MANHATTAN FILM
FESTIVAL ON SUNDAY, 6:00 P.M. AT
CINEMA VILLAGE FOR AN EPISODE I
DID CALLED RAILROADED, SURVIVING
WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS.
ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE IT IS