>>> I WISH HER WELL. I HOPE SHE DOES WELL.
I WOULD LOVE TO RUN AGAINST HER.
>> SHE SAID SHE’S IN THE FIGHT
ALL THE WAY.
DO YOU REALLY THINK SHE BELIEVES
SHE CAN WIN?
>> THAT I DON’T KNOW.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK HER
PSYCHIATRIST.
PSYCHIATRIST. >> THAT WAS THE PRESIDENT
REACTING TO THE NEWS THAT
ELIZABETH WARREN IS MOVING
TOWARD A PRESIDENTIAL RUN BY
SETTING UP AN EXPLORATORY
COMMITTEE.
COMMITTEE. IT WAS ROUGHLY A MONTH AGO THAT
HER HOME TOWN NEWSPAPER, THE
"BOSTON GLOBE," URGED HER NOT TO
RUN BECAUSE SHE WAS TOO MUCH OF
A DIVISIVE FIGURE.
ON MONDAY SHE RESPONDED.
>> THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IN
WASHINGTON IS IT IS GREAT FOR
THOSE WHO HAVE MONEY.
TO BUY INFLUENCE.
AND I’M FIGHTING AGAINST THAT.
AND YOU BET.
IT WILL MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE
UNHAPPY.
UNHAPPY. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I
DON’T GO TO WASHINGTON TO WORK
FOR THEM.
FOR THEM. >> YOU’RE COVERING THIS RACE.
LET ME START WITH YOU.
IF THAT BORED HAD COOPERATED, WE
WOULD HAVE SHOWN SOME
INTERESTING NUMBERS.
INTERESTING NUMBERS. IT LOOKS LIKE THE END OF THE
YEAR, SHE TOOK A HIT.
IT SEEMED RELATED TO THE DNA
TEST.
TEST. THE WILLINGNESS OF DEMOCRATS TO
VOTE FOR HER HAD FALLEN.
AND THE UNFAVORABILITY NUMBER
WAS UP AND THE FAVORABILITY
NUMBER WAS DOWN.
IN TERMS OF THE DNA TEST, IS
THAT A BLIP?
WILL IT BE FORGOTTEN OR WAS
THERE MORE DAMAGE REVEALED?
>> IT WILL CERTAINLY BE AN ISSUE
THAT SHE’LL HAVE TO ADDRESS.
TWO THINGS THAT HAPPEN.
THE CONSERVATIVE ENERGY THAT
TRIES TO SLUR HER AS POKE HONLT
AS, USING THOSE RACIAL TERMS
THAT NATIVE AMERICANS HAVE
CALLED RACIST.
CALLED RACIST. WHEN SHE TOOK THE TEST AND
ANGERED SOME PROGRESSIVES AND
SOME NATIVE-AMERICANS, IN TAKING
THE TEST IT ACTED LIKE IT IS
RELATED TO BLOOD WHEN IT IS
CULTURAL KINSHIP.
CULTURAL KINSHIP. AND SHE’S AWARE OF THAT.
SHE IS KNOWN PRIVATELY WITH
NATIVE-AMERICAN LEADERS, HAS
HEARD OUT THEIR CONCERNS.
WHETHER IT WORKS, WE’RE YET TO
SEE.
SEE. I DON’T THINK WE SHOULD
OVERCORRECT TOO MUCH.
THERE WILL BE SOMETHING FOR EACH
CANDIDATE THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO
ADDRESS.
ADDRESS. SHE STILL FIGHTS BIG BANG, SHE
STILL FIGHTS CORPORATE GREED.
SANDERS IS SITTING OUT THERE.
HOW HE SKSFUL KOUTH SHE’LL BE IN
THIS FIELD?
THIS FIELD? >> I THINK IT IS REALLY HARD.
EVEN IN 2019 FOR WOMEN TO RUN
FOR PRESIDENT.
FOR PRESIDENT. WE KEEP LEARNING THIS.
WE LEARNED AT THIS TIME HARD WAY
IN 2016 WITH ALL THE SEXIST
COVERAGE OF HILLARY AND PEOPLE
SAYING, SHE DOESN’T INSPIRE ME.
I DON’T KNOW WHY.
THE E-MAIL SCANDAL.
I HAVE A FEELING, IN THE NEXT
COUPLE YEARS, IF TRUMP DOESN’T
WIN, PEOPLE WILL SAY BUT HER DNA
TEST.
TEST. THE E-MAILS ABOUT HILLARY.
LITTLE THINGS LIKE, IS SHE
LIKABLE, ALOOF, THESE THINGS GET
SAID ABOUT WOMEN CANDIDATES.
THEY DON’T GET SAID ABOUT MALE
CANDIDATES.
CANDIDATES. >> I WISH THE BOARD WOULD
COOPERATE.
COOPERATE. THESE ARE ALL VOTERS.
GENERAL ELECTION VOTERS HERE.
FAVORABLE/UNFAVORABLE.
FAVORABLE/UNFAVORABLE. YOU ASK THAT ABOUT POLITICS
TIGSS.
TIGSS. BIDEN WAS 54-29.
SANDERS WAS 51-35.
WARREN WAS 30-32.
THOSE WERE THE ONLY THREE THAT
HAD MORE THAN 50% RECOGNIZING
NAMES AND HAVING AN OPINION.
DOES THAT FACTOR INTO DEMOCRATS
AND THEIR THINKING ABOUT WARREN,
EVEN IF YOU THINK IT IS UP FAIR,
DOES THAT FACTOR IN?
>> WELL, I THINK SHE HAS TWO
THINGS RUNNING AGAINST HER.
ONE IS THAT THEY’RE A LITTLE
AFRAID OF HER.
THEY THINK SHE IS TOO LIBERAL.
SHE MIGHT NOT REPRESENT THE
VIEWS OF CENTRISTS.
THEY NEED THEM TO PEOPLE OFF
FROM TRUMP.
FROM TRUMP. THEN YOU HAVE THE PEOPLE SAY GO,
IS SHE LIKE SCHNABEL SHE’S NOT
DOING IT FOR ME.
SHE’S NOT LIKABLE.
SO SHE DOES HAVE A TOUGHER TIME
THAN THE MEN.
IN TERMS OF THE ABILITY TO BEAT
TRUMP, WHERE WOULD SHE STACK UP
IN YOUR MIND?
>> IT IS HARD TO GAUGE.
I THINK SHE IS A VERY
COMPETITIVE CANDIDATE BUT
PROBABLY FARTHER BEHIND MORE
FRESHER BLOOD.
FRESHER BLOOD. PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT
ELIZABETH WARREN CAME ON AS A
VERY AUTHENTIC PROGRESSIVE IN
2012, 2016.
2012, 2016. THEY WERE MUCH MORE INTERESTING
IN BUTTRESSING THE TOP WHAT
DONALD TRUMP DID WITH THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY WAS UNDERCUT
HER ISSUES.
HER ISSUES. SHE’S A MARKET SKEPTIC.
DONALD TRUMP IS A MARKET
SKEPTIC.
SKEPTIC. HE ISSUES A BUNCH OF MEAN
TWEETS.
TWEETS. SHE’S BEEN TALKING ABOUT HER
TWEETS AND HOW PROUD SHE IS SO
SHE GOES TO THE MAT.
I THINK SHE IS UNDERMINING HER
OWN VALUE AS A WOMPGY
PROGRESSIVE ECONOMIC FIGURE.
IT SEEMED TO BE SOME PRETTY
DIRECT OUTTOAFRICAN-AMERICAN
DIRECT OUTTOAFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS.
VOTERS. SOME OF THE KEY STATES, YOU LOOK
AT THE PATH HILLARY CLINTON TOOK
TO THE NOMINATION OVER SANDERS
IN 2016.
IN 2016. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. FOR ANY CANDIDATES THEY’LL HAVE
TO REACH OUT.
THROUGH SOUTH CAROLINA AND THE
SOUTH, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
MIDWEST AND TURBAN CENTERS.
THAT’S SOMETHING THAT ELIZABETH
WARREN KNOWS.
WARREN KNOWS. WE’LL SEE WITH REACHING OUT TO
BLACK LEADERS AND MAKING THAT
THE FOREFRONT OF THE PITCH.
I WOULD POINT PEOPLE THE HER
ANNOUNCEMENT VIDEO WHERE SHE
HIGHLIGHTED THE BLACK/WHITE
WEALTH GAP.
WEALTH GAP. THAT’S SOMETHING SHE’S BEEN VERY
INTENTIONAL ABOUT.
INTENTIONAL ABOUT. I WAS WITH HER AT MORGAN STATE
IN BALTIMORE AT A HISTORICALLY
BLACK COLLEGE WHERE SHE SAID
THERE ARE TWO AMERICANS.
ONE THAT WORKS FOR WHITE
FAMILIES AND ONE FOR EVERYBODY
ELSE.
ELSE. SHE IS VERY, VERY COGNIZANT OF
THESE ISSUES.
THESE ISSUES. THAT’S WHERE SHE SEPARATES
HERSELF FROM SENATOR SANDERS OR