ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE YOU.
WE TURN OUR FOCUS TO
"THE WASHINGTON POST."
EARLIER TODAY CLAY TRAVIS
TWEETED, WHILE AMBER HEARD WAS
HIT WITH A $15 MILLION VERDICT
FOR DEFAMATION, REMEMBER THE
5 MILLION PUNITIVE DAMAGES WAS
REDUCED BY THE JUDGE ACCORDING
TO THE COMMONWEALTH LAW OF
VIRGINIA, TO $350,000, WE
SHOULDN’T OVERLOOK, HE SAID,
"THE WASHINGTON POST" PUBLISHED
HER DEFAMATORY LINES AFTER
EDITING AND POSTING A HEADLINE
TO THE PIECE, A JURY HAS NOW
OFFICIALLY DETERMINED THEY
PUBLISHED FAKE NEWS.
HERE WITH REACTION, FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR JOE CONCHA, ALONG
WITH OUT CAKE FOUNDER CLAY
TRAVIS.
CLAY, I THOUGHT YOUR ANGLE WAS
DEAD ON ACCURATE BUT WE KNOW IF
YOU ARE A PUBLIC FIGURE COME
AGAIN, WE GO TWO TIMES B, YOU
NEED TO PROVE ACTUAL MALICE.
IS THERE A CASE THEY WOULD HAVE
AGAINST "THE WASHINGTON POST,"
MEANING JOHNNY DEPP?
>> IT’S FASCINATING, SEAN, AND
THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON, THAT IS
WHAT JUSTICE CLARENCE THOMAS HAS
ARGUED, WE NEED TO UPDATE TIMES
B SULLIVAN FOR THE MODERN ERA.
WHEN I PUT MY WARRIOR HAT ON AND
WHEN I PRACTICED, WHAT JUMPS OUT
TO ME, THERE PROBABLY IS A CLAIM
AGAINST "THE WASHINGTON POST."
THIS WAS AN OP-ED PIECE, RIGHT?
SHE IS CLAIMING TO TELL THE
TRUTH, TO WHAT EXTENT WAS THERE
AN INVESTIGATION DONE?
REMEMBER THEY DEFINITELY WROTE
TO THE HEADLINE WHICH WAS A
MAJOR CONSEQUENTIAL ASPECT OF
THIS CASE.
WHAT IT REALLY REPRESENTS BIG
PICTURE IS "THE WASHINGTON POST"
HAS SOLD THE HASHTAG
#BelieveAllWomen, THEY HAVE
SOLD TO BE, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY
DID TO BRETT KAVANAUGH AND THE
AWFUL LIES THEY SPREAD AS PART
OF NEWS COVERAGE DURING HIS
CONFIRMATION HEARING AND IT IS A
MASSIVE, SIGNIFICANT WIN FOR THE
AMERICAN LEGAL SYSTEM, WE ARE
BACK TO SQUARE ONE,
LADY JUSTICE -- WHETHER YOU ARE
A MAN OR WOMAN, BLACK, WHITE,
ASIAN, HISPANIC, GAY, STRAIGHT,
A CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY OR
NOT, WE ARE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE
EQUAL BEFORE THE EYES OF
JUSTICE, AND IN FACT, OUR
STORIES ARE TO BE GIVEN WEIGHT
NOT BASED ON OUR IDENTITY BUT
BASED ON THEIR TRUTH, AND WHAT
THIS JURY SAID WAS EVEN THOUGH
"THE WASHINGTON POST" TRIED TO
DEFAME JOHNNY DEPP AND EVEN
THOUGH ALL OF HOLLYWOOD AND ALL
OF THE MEDIA JUMPED ON THE
AMBER HEARD BANDWAGON AND
BELIEVED THIS, HE STILL DESERVED
HIS DAY IN COURT, AND THAT
JURIES THAT WE ARE NOT HASHTAG
BELIEVING ALL WOMEN, THIS IS THE
END OF #MeToo, THIS IS ABOUT
INDIVIDUALS BEING ABLE TO TELL
THEIR OWN STORY, JOHNNY DEPP
STRUCK A BLOW, I REALLY BELIEVE
THIS, FOR THE JUSTICE SYSTEM,
HELPING TO TEAR DOWN THIS AWFUL
IDEA THAT IF YOU ARE A WOMAN,
YOU CAN’T LIVE. WE ALL KNOW HUMANS LIVE
>> Sean: BUT CLAY, YOU’VE GOT
TO GET TO THIS POINT, I
BELIEVE -- I ALSO BELIEVE THAT
YOU ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN
GUILTY.
THE PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE,
AND NOBODY, A TIME WHEN IT WAS
AT ITS HEIGHT, WANTED TO TALK
ABOUT THAT ASPECT OF IT.
AU CONTRAIRE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
THE MEDIA, JOE, I WAS IN ATLANTA
WHEN THE WHOLE OLYMPIC BOMBING
HAPPENED.
I WAS ON THE AIR THERE WHEN
RICHARD JEWELL FIT THE PROFILE
OF THE LONE BOMBER.
TURNED OUT HE WAS A HERO THERE.
IT TAUGHT ME A VERY VALUABLE
LESSON THAT HAS SERVED ME WELL
THROUGHOUT MY CAREER.
WE WERE RIGHT ABOUT
NICHOLAS SANDMANN.
WE WERE RIGHT ABOUT FERGUSON.
WE WERE RIGHT ABOUT CAMBRIDGE,
WE ARE RIGHT ABOUT UVA, WE WERE
WRITE ABOUT DUKE LACROSSE, RIGHT
ABOUT BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, THE
RUSSIA HOAX FOR THREE YEARS, WE
ARE PROVEN RIGHT AND ARE EVEN
RIGHT ON THE HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP
STORY.
THESE ARE NOT INSIGNIFICANT
MOMENTS.
IN THE CASE OF THE RUSSIA HOAX,
THOSE LIES WENT ON FOR THREE
LONG YEARS AND DRAGGED THE
COUNTRY THROUGH HELL, AND NONE
OF THE ALLEGATIONS IN THAT DIRTY
DOSSIER WERE TRUE.
NONE OF THE ALPHA BANK
ALLEGATIONS WERE TRUE.
>> AND ALL OF THOSE STORIES YOU
JUST MENTIONED HAD A COMMON
THREAD, A COMMON MANTRA, SEAN,
AND THAT IS YOU ARE GUILTY UNTIL
PROVEN INNOCENT, NOT THE OTHER
WAY AROUND.
WHETHER YOU WANT TO BRING UP
RICHARD JEWELL OR
NICHOLAS SANDMANN, AND I THINK
SANDMAN HERE IS PROBABLY THE
MOST RELEVANT PERSON TO THINK
ABOUT, IF JOHNNY DEPP’S NEXT
MOVE IN COURT IS TO GO AFTER
"THE WASHINGTON POST," BECAUSE
YOU REMEMBER "THE POST" ALONG
WITH CNN WHERE SUIT OF
DEFAMATION BY A HIGH SCHOOL
STUDENT TO THE TUNE OF SAY
$275 MILLION EACH AND BOTH OF
THOSE PUBLICATIONS WERE FORCED
TO SETTLE.
WILL "THE POST" FACE A SIMILAR
SUIT FROM JOHNNY DEPP?
STAY TUNED.
IN THE END I’M GOING TO HEAR
THOSE THREE WORDS OVER AND OVER
AND OVER AGAIN FROM THE
TESTIMONY FROM THIS CASE HAS
GONE ON FOR WEEKS, SEAN, AND HAD
TO BE HONEST, IT’S HARD TO GET
OUT OF MY HEAD, HUMAN FECAL
MATTER.
THAT IS A TOUGH ONE TO ERASE
FROM MY HEAD.
NEVER HAVE I REALIZED HOW NORMAL
MY MARRIAGE WAS ON TILT -- AFTER
LISTING THESE TWO DOING AT IT.
>> Sean: I WILL TELL YOU, I
KNOW YOU’RE BEING FUNNY, BUT IT
IS SO DARK, IT IS SO UGLY, THERE
IS NO LIGHT.
FOR THINGS TO DETERIORATE AND GO
THIS LOW, NEITHER ONE OF THESE
TWO COME OUT LOOKING GOOD,
MONEY, NO MONEY, WIN, NO WIN, I
THINK EVERYBODY LOSES ACROSS THE
BOARD.
THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY AS TO
OTHER PEOPLE, IF YOU FIND
YOURSELF IN SUCH A SITUATION, AS
NANCY GRACE RIGHTLY POINTED OUT,
GET THE HELL OUT OF IT
IMMEDIATELY.
DON’T PASS GO.
DON’T COLLECT 200.