RENAUD THAT WAS KILLED IN THE
COVERING KEY LENS IN IRPIN.
LARRY: MIKE TOBIN, AS ALWAYS
KEEP SAFE.
WE HAVE ROBERT O’BRIEN, FROM THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
WELCOME, MY FRIEND.
ROBERT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
UKRAINE, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
CHINA.
MY MIND IS BLOWN BIRRAN, THIS
IRAN STORY.
THERE IS A RUSSIAN NUCLEAR
CARVEOUT FOR $10 BILLION.
THERE IS $11 BILLION FOR
HOSTAGES.
WE’LL WIND UP GIVING MORE MONEY
TO IRAN THAN UKRAINE.
IRAN IS OUR MORTAL ENEMY.
THEY ARE ISRAEL’S MORTAL ENEMY.
THE SAUDIS HATE THEM.
ONE OF THE WORST TERRORIST
NATIONS.
WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE, ROBERT
O’BRIEN?
HOW IS THIS REMOTELY POSSIBLE?
BY THE BY, WHY WOULD WE BE
GIVING PUTIN, RUSSIA,
CONSTRUCTION COMPANY A CARVEOUT
IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THE
SANCTIONS TO BUILD ANOTHER
NUCLEAR SITE IN IRAN?
WOULD YOU HELP ME THROUGH THIS?
>> NO.
LOOK IT IS INEXPLICABLE LARRY.
WHAT A ROUGH ST. PATRICK’S DAY.
I WOULD SAY HAPPY ST. PATRICK’S
DAY BUT THERE IS NOT A LOT OF
GOOD NEWS COMING OUT OF THE
MIDDLE EAST, COMING OUT OF ASIA,
COMING OUT OF EUROPE RIGHT NOW.
OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO THE POOR
KIDS AND FAMILIES KILLED IN THE
THEATER IN MARIUPOL.
GOING BACK TO THE IRAN DEAL.
NOT JUST A BAD DEAL.
WE OUTSOURCED THE NEGOTIATIONS
TO THE RUSSIANS.
THE RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR IN THE
MIDST OF THE INVASION OF UKRAINE
WAS NEGOTIATING ON BEHALF OF THE
UNITED STATES WITH THE IRANIANS.
THEN HE WENT ON TV CREDIT ABOUT
IT, SAID THE IRANIANS GOT A MUCH
BETTER DEAL THEY WOULD EVER
IMAGINE THEY WOULD RECEIVE.
I’M RESPONSIBLE FOR GET BEING IT
FOR THEM.
IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE WHAT WE’RE
SEEING.
LARRY: BUT THEY SEEM BOUND AND
DETERMINED, ROBERT, THEY, THE
BIDENS TO GO THROUGH WITH THIS I
DON’T KNOW ALL THE FACTS.
I DON’T KNOW ALL THE DOCUMENTS.
THE "WASHINGTON FREE BEACON" IS
A GOOD, CLEVER NEWSPAPER.
THEY SEEM TO HAVE GOTTEN
DOCUMENTS.
WHY WOULD WE CARVE OUT IN THE
MIDDLE OF ALL THESE SANCTIONS ON
UKRAINE, WHY WOULD WE GIVE
ANYTHING TO A RUSSIAN COMPANY?
WHY WOULD WE GIVE ANYTHING TO
IRAN WHICH IS A TERRORIST STATE
AND HATES THE UNITED STATES AND
HATES ISRAEL AND HATES
SAUDI ARABIA?
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, YOUR
OLD NATIONAL SECURITY HAND,
WHERE IS THE LOGIC HERE?
>> WHAT IS AMAZING IS, THAT
LET’S JUST ASSUME FOR A MOMENT
THAT IT’S A CIVILIAN NUCLEAR
PLANT.
IT DOESN’T HAVE NEFARIOUS
PURPOSES.
WHICH I DON’T BELIEVE FOR A
SECOND.
LET’S ASSUME IT DID, WE’RE
LETTING RUSSIANS BUILD A GREEN
ENERGY NUCLEAR PLANT FOR
IRANIANS SO WE CAN IN TURN BUY
THEIR OIL.
WE’RE NOT BUILDING NUCLEAR
PLANTS HERE.
WE’RE NOT PUMPING OUR OWN OIL
BUT HELPING IRANIANS GET GREEN
ENERGY TO BUY THEIR FOSSIL
FUELS.
THE WHOLE THING IS ABSURD.
CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT KIND OF CUT
VLADMIR PUTIN IS GETTING FOR THE
10 BILLION?
HE GETS A CUT FOR EVERYTHING HIS
COMPANIES MAKE.
HE WILL PERSONALLY, LIKE HE
PERSONALLY MADE A BUNCH OF MONEY
ON THIS WAR BECAUSE THE PRICE OF
GAS HAS GONE UP, PRICE OF A
BARREL OF OIL GONE UP FAR MORE
THAN PENALTY OF SANCTIONS, SO
MAKING MOONEY EVERY DAY.
NOT MAKE MONEY ON THE NUCLEAR
DEAL.
THAT IS ABSURD.
LARRY: THAT IS A GREAT POINT.
HE WILL MAKE MORE MONEY.
LET ME SHIFT OVER NOW.
BIDEN IS SPEAKING TO XI TOMORROW
I GUESS.
BUT THE MYSTERY OF IT, JAKE
SULLIVAN AS NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISOR, HAD A SEVEN HOUR
MEETING WITH THE CHINESE, I
DON’T KNOW LAST WEEK, LAST
WEEKEND OR SOMETHING.
THERE IS NOT A WORD ABOUT THAT
MEETING, WHAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED,
WHAT WAS NOT ACCOMPLISHED.
SEVEN HOURS, NOTHING.
BLANK SLATE.
MEANWHILE THE REPORTS ARE THE
RUSSIAN TROOPS, I MEAN THE RED
ARMY IS PATHETIC.
THE RUSSIAN TROOPS ARE RUNNING
OUT OF MILITARY SUPPLIES, FOOD,
WHAT NOT.
THEY’RE GOING TO ASK CHINA, HAVE
ASKED CHINA TO RESUPPLY THEM.
SO, SULLIVAN SAYS IF CHINA DOES
THAT, THEY WERE GOING TO PAY
SEVERE CONSEQUENCES BUT NOTHING
IS OUTLINED, NOTHING IS SPECIFIC
AND NOW BIDEN WILL SPEAK TO XI
TOMORROW.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS?
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH
CHINA?
WHAT ARE WE ASKING THEM?
WHAT ARE THE SEVERE
CONSEQUENCES?
>> WELL, LAST TIME JAKE GOT
TOGETHER WITH HIS CHINESE
COUNTERPART, MY FORMER
COUNTERPART SHE SPENT PROBABLY
SEVEN HOURS HARANGING THE U.S.
OUT OF OUR TERRIBLE HUMAN RIGHTS
RECORD.
YOU REMEMBER THAT WHEN SECRETARY
BLINKEN AND NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISOR SULLIVAN HAD TO SIT
THROUGH A MONOLOGUE FROM THE
CHINESE.
LISTEN SEVEN HOURS HOW BAD WE
WERE, WE DIDN’T DO A DEAL
BECAUSE THE DEALS WE’VE BEEN
DOING HAVEN’T BEEN GREAT.
WHAT I HOPE JAKE TOLD THE
CHINESE, LOOK HOW BAD IT IS
GOING FOR THE RUSSIANS F YOU
THINK THAT IS BAD IT WILL BE
WORSE FOR YOU IN TAIWAN IF YOU
DO SOMETHING.
UNLIKE IN RUSSIA AND UKRAINE, WE
ARE GETTING INVOLVED IF WE NEED
TO IN TAIWAN.
YOU WILL NOT JUST FACE BAN OF
TAIWANESE WHO DON’T WANT THEIR
DEMOCRACY TAKEN AWAY FROM THE
CHINESE ARMY, YOU ARE FACING THE
MARINE CORPORATION.
IT WILL BE FAR WORSE ACROSS THE
STRAITS OF TAIWAN.
I HOPE THE MESSAGE WAS SENT, A
VERY STERN, STRONG MESSAGE TO
DETERRENT THE CHINESE.
RIGHT NOW XI XINPING IS SEEING
WHAT HAPPENED IN UKRAINE.
SEEING HALF MEASURE SANCTIONS.
US TURN TO THE RUSSIANS AND
IRAN, ALLOWING RUSSIANS TO BUILD
THINGS IN IRAN.
NOT SANCTIONING RUSSIAN OIL.
I HOPE HE IS NOT TAKING AWAY THE
WEST RESPONSE TO TAIWAN WHICH IS
CRITICAL WOULD NOT BE MET
WITH -- WE HAVE TO UP OUR GAME
IN UKRAINE IN LARGE PART TO SEND
A MESSAGE TO BEIJING THAT THIS
ISN’T GOING TO STAND IN TAIWAN.
LARRY: ROBERT O’BRIEN, DO YOU
HONESTLY THINK THAT THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION HAS THE CAJONES
TO ACTUALLY SAY TO THE CHINESE,
WE’LL PUT THE NAVY AND MARINES
IN TO DEFEND TAIWAN?
IT TOOK THEM MONTHS AND MONTHS
TO CLASSIFY PUTIN AS A WAR
CRIMINAL.
ACTUALLY TOOK THEM MONTHS AND
MONTHS TO DO ANYTHING IN THE
UKRAINE.
YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME PUTIN
BARKS, BIDEN HIDES UNDER THE
DESK, INSTEAD OF COMING BACK
LIKE A REAGAN WOULD HAVE COME
SLAMMING RIGHT BACK, WE WIN, YOU
LOSE KIND OF THING, TEAR DOWN
THAT WALL, ET CETERA, THEY SAY
NOTHING.
THEY, YOU THINK THEY WOULD,
THAT’S THE MESSAGE THEN?
THAT WE’RE GOING TO SEND, WE,
THAT THE BIDENS WILL SEND TO THE
CHINESE.
GET READY FOR OUR MARINES, OUR
NAVY, AND OUR SANCTIONS?
>> WELL THE ONE THING BIDEN DID
SAY TWICE WE WOULD DEFEND TAIWAN
IF IT WAS INVADED.
THE WHITE HOUSE RAN TO WALK
THOSE STATEMENTS BACK BUT I HOPE
THE PRESIDENT WAS SPEAKING FOR
HIMSELF AND HE MEANT WHAT HE
SAID, NOT WITH STANDING THE
WHITE HOUSE WALK BACKS.
JAKE IS A SMART GUY.
HE KNOWS PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH
WORKS.
IT IS A LITTLE HARD FOR BLINKEN
AND AUSTIN AND SULLIVAN WHO ARE
PRETTY MODERATE DEMOCRATS BUT
THEY’RE SURROUNDED BY THE
"SQUAD," ALL THE LEFTIES IN
THEIR PARTY BUT I THINK HE IS
SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT THE
WAY TO DEAL WITH THE CHINESE IS
FROM A POSITION OF STRENGTH.
I HOPE SO.
I HOPE THAT MESSAGE WAS SENT
WHEN THEY MET.
LARRY: BIDEN THINKS HE IS FDR
BUT WHAT WE NEED IS HARRY
TRUMAN, WHO WAS A TOUGH GUY.
REMEMBER TRUMAN, WITH KOREA,
WITH THE BERLIN AIRLIFT, WITH A
WHOLE LOT OF OTHER THINGS, WITH
NATO?
WE NEED HARRY TRUMAN.
WE ALSO NEED RONALD REAGAN.
I MEAN I THINK, DO YOU THINK THE
CHINESE RIGHT NOW ARE SUPPLYING
RUSSIA WITH THESE SUPPLIES THAT
ARE SHORT?
I MEAN THERE IS A STAND-OFF.
RUSSIA HAS NOT DONE IT IN THE
UKRAINE, RIGHT?
THEIR ECONOMY IS TERRIBLE.
THEIR STOCK MARKET IS CLOSED.
THEIR CURRENCY IS GONE.
THEY’RE DEFAULTING ON THEIR
BONDS.
IT’S A PUNY ECONOMY TO BEGIN
WITH.
THEY’RE RUNNING OUT OF STUFF.
DO YOU THINK CHINA IS ALREADY
RESUPPLYING?
WHAT WOULD YOU ADVOCATE IF YOU
WERE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR?
>> YEAH.
THEY PROBABLY ARE BECAUSE
REMEMBER WHEN PUTIN WENT TO XI
TO GET PERMISSION TO INVADE
UKRAINE DURING THE OLYMPICS
SHORTLY THEREAFTER XI CAME OUT
SAID THIS IS AN UNLIMITED
PARTNERSHIP.
WE’RE THERE FOR EACH OTHER FOR
EVERYTHING.
IF YOU HAVE AN UNLIMITED
PARTNERSHIP I ASSUME THAT
APPLIES TO MILITARY GUY.
WE SHOULD KEEP EYE ON THAT.
IF WE SEE ANY MILITARY EQUIPMENT
GO SANCTIONS WILL APPLY TO
CHINA.
WITH UKRAINE WE HAVE TO PUT FULL
SANGSES ON.
SWIFT SANCTIONS WERE HALF
MEASURE.
DON’T COVER OIL AND GAS SALES.
YOU ADVOCATED FIRST BEFORE ANY
MAJOR FIGURE IN THE MEDIA,
LARRY, YOU WERE 100% RIGHT WHEN
YOU STARTED ADVOCATING THIS,
CENTRAL BANKS SHOULD EXCLUDE OIL
AND GAS SALES AND MINERAL SALES.
WE HAVE TO CUT THAT OFF RIGHT
NOW.
THE UKRAINIANS DON’T HAVE A LOT
OF TIME.
WE’RE PLAYING CATCH UP.
WE DIN DETER PUTIN WITH OUR
CURRENT SANCTIONS.
WE HAVE TO PUNISH HIM TO MAKE
HIM PAY.
WE NEED THE POLISH MiGS TO
FLY.
THEIR PILOTS IN THEIR OWN NO-FLY
ZONE.
WE DON’T NEED AMERICAN PILOTS OR
AMERICAN SOLDIERS TO ENFORCE A
NO FRY SOWN.
LET UKRAINIANS HAVE THE
EQUIPMENT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.
WHEN THE RUSSIANS SAY THERE IS A
RED LINE.
I’M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER
RUSSIAN MiGS FLYING OVER NORTH
VIETNAM, AND VIETNAM, SHOOTING
DOWN AMERICAN PLANES.
THEY DID THE SAME THING IN
KOREA.
THE RUSSIANS DON’T HAVE A VERY
GOOD HISTORY ON THIS.
SELL THE PLANES BACK DID THE
UKRAINIANS, USE RUSSIAN ARMS
DEALER, PUTIN GETS A CUT OF
SALES PRICE.
MAYBE HE WILL BE HAPPY ABOUT
THAT, GET THE PLANES DOWN TO
UKRAINE.
LARRY: THE ONLY OIL AND GAS
SANCTIONS ARE THE SANCTIONS THAT
BIDEN HAS PUT ON THE AMERICAN
OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY.
THAT IS WHY WE’RE TWO MILLION
BARRELS A DAY SHORT.
THAT IS ONE REASON WHY THE PRICE
OF OIL IS $100, AND PIES OF
GASOLINE IS FIVE BUCKS.
THAT IS ONLY SANCTIONS.
ROBERT O’BRIEN --
>> WE’VE BEEN TOUGHER ON MIDLAND
THAN MOSCOW UNFORTUNATELY.
LARRY: THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT.
RICK PERRY WANTS A SPECIAL ENVOY