THIS IS "THE FIVE."
PRESIDENT BIDEN GETTING HIS
FIRST CHALLENGE FROM THE
INCOMING GOP HOUSE, GO FIX THE
BORDER.
REPUBLICANS HAVE A LOT ON THEIR
PLATE, EVERY MONTH, THERE’S A
NEW RECORD OF PEOPLE CROSSING,
EXPECTED TO GET WORSE WHEN TRUMP
ERA, TITLE 42, ENDS IN DECEMBER,
FORCING THE ADMINISTRATION TO
TAKE DRASTIC MEASURES.
GOP LEADER KEVIN McCARTHY
THREATENING TO IMPEACH THE
SECRETARY OVER THE CRISIS,
INVITING THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF
TO WITNESS IT FIRSTHAND.
>> THE PRESIDENT ASKED ME ABOUT
THE BORDER.
I TOLD HIM ABOUT MY CURRENT
TRIP.
>> OUR VERY OWN PETER DUCEY,
ASKED IF HE CHECKED THE MAILBOX
FOR THE INVITATION.
>> THE POSSIBLE NEXT SPEAKER
SAYS HE WANTS HIM TO GO WITH HIM.
IS HE GOING TO?
>> HE’S BEEN TAKING ACTION TO
SECURE OUR BORDER.
WE’RE NOT SEEING THAT FROM
REPUBLICANS, A WILLINGNESS TO
WORK WITH US ON FIXING A
SITUATION THAT’S BEEN AROUND FOR
DECADES NOW.
INSTEAD THEY’RE DOING POLITICAL
STUNTS.
>> IT’S NOT JUST CONCERNS DOWN
AT THE BORDER.
THE CRISIS COULD COMPROMISE
AIRLINE SAFETY, BECAUSE AN AIR
MARSHALL WARNING ABOUT ANOTHER
9/11.
>> SIR, PLEASE REPLACE THE AIR
MARSHALS ON THE BORDER, STOP
TAKING THEM OUT OF THE SKIES,
AND LET US DO THE JOB WE WERE
TRAINED DO.
WE HAVE BEEN DECIMATED,
DEPLETED, ON LESS THAN 1% OF
FLIGHTS.
THESE GROUND-BASED DUTIES,
THEY’RE PULLING US OUT OF THE
SKY TO GO TO THE BORDER ARE JUST
DEMOLISHING OUR CHANCES AT
STOPPING ANOTHER 9/11.
>> WHY DOES THE DEMONSTRATION TO
GO BACK TO THINGS THAT ARE
DEMONSTRABLY PROVEN TO BE
UNTRUE?
THE PRESIDENT HASN’T BEEN TO THE
BORDER.
HE WENT TO A DRIVE-BY, A
CAMPAIGN EVENT.
WEAPON THIS.
WHY DO THEY KEEP DOING THAT?
>> I’M NOT IN HER HEAD, AND
NEITHER DO I WANT TO BE, DANA.
HE’S NEVER GOING TO THE BORDER
WITH McCARTHY, JUST LIKE I’M
NOT GOING TO A CONCERT WITH
GREG.
DOESN’T MATTER HOW MANY TIMES
HE’S ASKED, I’M NOT GOING.
>> I’VE NEVER ASKED.
>> YOU HAVE.
>> I WOULDN’T BE SEEN IN PUBLIC
WITH YOU.
>> THAT’S HOW BIDEN FEELS ABOUT
McCARTHY.
YOU DON’T WANT TO ELEVATE
McCARTHY ALSO, AND SAY, OKAY,
KEVIN, LET’S GO DOWN TO THE
BORDER AND SEE WHERE I’VE
FAILED.
THE IMAGES, TOO, OF PRESIDENT
BIDEN WITH A YOUNGER AND THINNER
KEVIN McCARTHY POINTING AT THE
FAILURE WITH -- FLANKED BY
BORDER PATROL AGENTS, WHO JOE
BIDEN CALLED WHIPPERS, ISN’T A
GOOD LOOK FOR JOE.
ISN’T A GOOD LOOK FOR HIS BASE.
THE BASE DOESN’T WANT TO SEE.
TO VISIT THE PROBLEM YOU’RE
ACKNOWLEDGING THE PROBLEM.
MOST LEADERS NEED TO LAY EYES ON
A CRISIS.
IF YOU’RE BASEMENT FLOODS, YOU
GO DOWNSTAIRS AND LOOK AT THE
FLOOD.
YOU DON’T TELL YOUR WIFE, YOU’RE
NOW THE BASEMENT CZAR, AND PAWN
IT OFF TO HER.
IF AOC AND CHUCK SCHUMER SAY,
WE’VE GOT TO HAVE OPEN BORDERS,
BECAUSE WE NEED BABY-MAKERS TO
COME HERE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU HAVE BILL
CLINTON AND BARACK OBAMA, AND I
BELIEVE NANCY PELOSI SAYING, YOU
KNOW WHAT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO
SECURE THE BORDER A LITTLE BIT.
JOE BIDEN WILL HAVE TO CHOOSE.
THERE IS A WAY TO THREAD THE
NEEDLE.
YOU CAN HAVE A STRONG BORDER,
AND YOU CAN HAVE A HUMANE AND
RATIONAL ASYLUM POLICY.
THE I DON’T KNOW WHY THAT’S SO
HARD.
I DON’T THINK THEY’RE GOING TO
GET TOGETHER AND DO ANYTHING,
BECAUSE CHUCK SCHUMER CAME IN
EVEN BEFORE THE ELECTION WAS
FINISHED AND SAID, MASS AMNESTY
FOR 10 MILLION ILLEGAL, AND THAT
POISONS THE WHOLE DEBATE.
>> FOR MONTHS LEADING UP TO THE ELECTION, GREG, THE WHITE HOUSE
ELECTION, GREG, THE WHITE HOUSE
AND MAYAORKAS THEY SAID THE
BORDER IS SECURED, AND NOW YOU
SEE THAT THE WHITE HOUSE IS
THINKING ABOUT ABOUT A COMPLETE
OVERHAUL OF THEIR IMMIGRATION POLICY.
WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT?
>> IT WOULD BE COOL TO HEAR
BIDEN ARTICULATE A PHILOSOPHY
REGARDING THE BORDER ITSELF.
SHOULD IT BE STRONG?
HOW DO YOU DEFINE STRONG?
HOW ARE YOU MAINTAINING ITS
STRENGTH?
WE’VE NEVER HEARD THAT.
INSTEAD WE’RE IN THIS MIRROR
VERSE, RIGHT?
A FEW YEARS AGO IT WAS AOC AT
THE BORDER WEEPING.
WE CALLED THAT A STUNT.
NOW YOU’VE GOT McCARTHY SAYING
WE’RE GOING TO THE BORDER.
THEN THAT’S CALLED A STUNT.
THAT’S THE MIRROR VERSE, WHEN
ONE PARTY REACTS TO THE ANOTHER ANTICIPATING HOW THE OTHER PARTY
ANTICIPATING HOW THE OTHER PARTY
WOULD REACT.
REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS, IT’S
A TROUBLED MARRIAGE.
THE REPUBLICANS ARE THE HEN
PECKED HUSBAND, RIGHT?
REPUBLICANS ARE ALWAYS ON THE
DEFENSIVE WHEN IT COMES TO
COMPASSION, HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO
THE DEMOCRATS HOW MUCH THEY
CARE, BUT IT’S NEVER THE
REVERSE, RIGHT?
DEMS NEVER HAVE TO PROVE TO THE
REPUBLICANS THAT THEY CARE, EVEN
THOUGH THEIR POLICIES, WHETHER
IT’S THE BORDER, THE ECONOMY, OR
CRIME, HURTS WAY MORE PEOPLE
THAN IT HELPS.
THIS IS A ONE-SIDED MARRIAGE.
THE HUSBAND’S ALWAYS IN THE
DOGHOUSE.
HE’S KEPT THERE AS A STRATEGY BY
THE DEMOCRATS.
>> I APPROVE OF THAT ANALYSIS.
>> I EVEN LIKE IT.
THE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO
SLEEP ON THE COUCH.
THAT’S WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> DOES THAT HAPPEN ANYMORE?
DO PEOPLE STILL SLEEP ON
COUCHES?
>> NOT IN MY HOUSE.
[LAUGHTER]
>> JUDGE, WHAT ABOUT THE
MARSHALS PULLED FROM THEIR
DUTIES TO GO TO THE BORDER?
>> I THINK THAT’S INTERESTING.
APPARENTLY 1% OF THE MARSHALS
ARE NOW ON AIRPLANES DOING WHAT
THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
IT’S SIMILAR TO WHEN YOU TOOK
THE BORDER PATROL OFF THE OF
MONITORING THE BORDERS SO THEY
COULD PUT DIAPERS ON BABIES, SO
THEY COULD BE BABYSITTERS
THEMSELVES.
LOOK, WHAT’S GOING ON WITH THIS
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS CRAZY.
GREG, WHEN YOU SAID THERE’S AN
ARTICULATION, HAS TO BE AN
ARTICULATION OF SOMETHING.
I’M TELLING YOU MAYORKAS WILL
DISAGREE YOU, BECAUSE MAYORKAS
SAYS HE INTENDS TO USE THE SAME
PLAN THAT HE USED IN APRIL,
EXCEPT I LOOKED UP HIS APRIL
PLAN.
I COULDN’T FIND A PLAN.
YOU KNOW, IT’S ALL ABOUT SMOKE
AND MIRRORS RIGHT NOW.
THE DANGERS NOW ARE TO
AMERICANS, WHO WILL BE FLYING.
1% NOW OF THE AIRPLANES, AND
BELIEVE ME THE -- THE AIR
MARSHALS KNOW VERY WELL WHERE
THE FLIGHTS ARE WHERE THERE
COULD BE A PROBLEM.
TO TAKE 99% OF THE AIR MARSHALS
AND PUT THEM AT THE BORDER FOR
PEOPLE WHO ARE VIOLATING OUR
LAWS, AND ILLEGALLY ENTERING
WITH NO MONITORING OF WHO THEY
ARE IS OUTRAGEOUS.
IT IS, AGAIN, PUTTING THE
AMERICAN CITIZEN IN -- YOU KNOW,
IN THE SECOND CLASS SEAT.
I GOT TO TELL YOU WHAT’S
INTERESTING ABOUT ALL OF THIS,
IS THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN PEOPLE
NOW WHO THINK THAT IT IS TIME TO
CHANGE THE POLICIES AT THE
BORDER.
THEY’RE NOW LOOKING AT THE TRUMP
POLICIES.
SO WHETHER IT’S DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY -- AND I THINK
NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL AND
JUSTICE -- THEY’RE NOW TALKING
ABOUT BARRING ASYLUM FOR SINGLE
ADULTS ILLEGALLY CROSSING, WHO
NOT FIRST APPLIED FOR LEGAL
PATHWAY, OR MAKING SURE THAT
SOME OF THEM ARE IN A REFUGEE
RESETTLEMENT BEFORE THEY
ACTUALLY ACCESS ASYLUM AT OUR
BORDER.
WHAT TOOK THEM SO LONG?
DO THEY HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO
VOTE DEMOCRATIC NOW SO THEY
DON’T HAVE TO WORRY?
>> WHAT IS DRIVING THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE THIS
CHANGE, OR TO SUGGEST THEY’RE
GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A CHANGE?
>> WELL, I THINK THERE’S BEEN A
HUGE SURGE IN THE NUMBER OF
DEMOCRATS SPEAKING OUT AGAINST
IT.
PART OF THAT IS, EVEN THOUGH IT
WAS A STUNT, TO GREG’S POINT,
EVERYONE TAKES THEIR TURN, WE
NOW HAVE UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANTS
BEING SHIPPED TO NORTHEASTERN
CITIES, RIGHT, THE MARTHA’S
VINEYARD THING ATTRACTED A TON
OF ATTENTION.
IT’S HAPPENING IN CHICAGO.
MAYOR ADAMS SAID HE NEEDS
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HELP TO HOUSE
THEM.
MAYOR BOWSER IS SAYING IT’S A
NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT.
YOU CAN’T BE DOING THIS.
HIGH-PROFILE DEMOCRATS ARE
TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THINGS
THAT REPUBLICANS ARE TALKING
ABOUT.
I THINK THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
HAS TAKEN NOTE OF THAT.
IT’S SO HARD -- THIS HAPPENS ON
BOTH SIDES -- FOR PEOPLE TO
ADMIT WE WANT THE SAME THING,
RIGHT?
THERE ARE LITTLE DIFFERENCES IN
THE LEVEL OF ASYLUM THAT THEY
WOULD ALLOW, THAT REPUBLICANS
WOULD WANT VERSUS DEMOCRATS, HOW
YOU WANT THE LEGAL SYSTEM TO
OPERATE, BUT GENERALLY THE
SURVEYS EVERYBODY, 77-PLUS
PERCENT WANTS THEM TO HAVE A DAY
IN COURT.
FROM APRIL, THERE WERE FOUR
POINTS, TWO OF THEM AT LEAST,
WHICH SAID WE NEED MORE TENTS
BASICALLY HOUSING FOR THEM DOWN
THERE, TO SEND MORE JUDGES.
THAT’S NOT ENOUGH TO SOLVE THIS
PROBLEM.
THERE ARE SO MANY DEMOCRATS ON
RECORD THROUGHOUT THE LAST
COUPLE OF DECADES TALKING ABOUT
BUILDING A PHYSICAL BARRIER.
HILLARY CLINTON WAS ONE OF THEM,
IT CAME UP IN 2016 ELECTION OVER
AND OVER, AFTER DONALD TRUMP
SAID THEY’RE THE WORST PEOPLE.
LO AND BEHOLD, IT’S NOT A FULL
WALL, BUT THERE ARE DEMOCRATS,
BIDEN, HILLARY, ETC., ARE THAT
ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
I THINK THERE’S A PATH FORWARD
IF PEOPLE CAN AGREE THAT
DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS LIKE
THE ILLEGAL LABOR.
THAT’S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.
IT WILL NEVER BE SOLVED UNLESS
PEOPLE CAN GET PAST THAT.
>> ALL OF THOSE ISSUES WILL BE
SOLVED UNLESS THE BORDER IS
SECURE.
THAT HIGH SCHOOL TO HAPPEN HAS T