I think that part of your cathartic process of redemption if you like,
it's gonna start from I've been a terrible liar,
I mean would you be prepared to say that?
>> Sure, like I said, well, I've been a terrible liar on those subjects and
what I tried to convey to the american people is.
I made mistakes of allowing the pressures of what I thought needed to be done,
this wasn't about tricking anybody,
it [CROSSTALK] no, no, no, no, let me finish.
It wasn't about tricking the people, this was about getting accepted by the party.
>> I mean it might have been about that second thing but
I think it was about the first thing too.
I think tricking people is kind of one of the core parts of a lie,
what a ridiculous thing to say.
I mean I stabbed the guy but this wasn't about making people bleed.
Come on, this was about doing the thrusting motion,
I thought was demanded of me.
>> He is lying for the love of the game, it's what it is.
>> For the love of the game, yeah, it's not about the effect,
it's the thrill it gives me, [LAUGH] I get a rush.
So he's now had a couple of months, George Santos,
to come up with a good explanation as to why he has told some of the most
horrendous brazen, random, horrific lies we've heard in politics.
And the argument he's come up with is, it wasn't about tricking you people,
it was about tricking Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell or something.
Rayyvana, what do you think?
>> It's interesting because I think the party was fully aware of his lies,
I would be shocked if they didn't do any research into
this candidate that they were uplifting.
But I mean it's so silly to say it's not about tricking people, why else lie?
Like I said, it's just for love of the game,
you're lying to deceive people, specifically the voters.
Specific lies of his, like being jewish to appeal to a jewish voting base or
his credentials to appear like he's qualified for the position.
It's not like he was just lying in back rooms to people like Kevin McCarthy,
he was lying all up and down the campaign trail and not just for this last campaign,
but for his first campaign before that.
So it's just so ridiculous, but I don't know what I would expect from him.
I did like him stumbling to answer the question, considering how much
time he's had to prepare a coherent, well articulated response,
he was just sort of bumbling [LAUGH] in his answer to Piers Margon.
>> Yeah, Piers Morgan not being the worst for once,
you love to see [CROSSTALK] occasion.
But yeah, look, if there was good evidence that this explanation was true,
let's say that he was,
it turned out that he had just viciously lied to the party in interviews.
Or maybe he lied to the New York times
editorial board to get their endorsement or something.
But then he was perfectly honest with the voters or whatever, I'm not saying
that would be great, but I think a lot of people would be understanding.
It's ridiculous what you need to do, what you need to qualify as for
the party to support you.
On the democratic side for instance, you have to not be remotely progressive or
else they will banish you to the center of the sun.
Lying to get around that sort of stuff, I think maybe is a noble lie.
But lying about you being jewish,
lying multiple times about your mom dying in the towers, this is just sick stuff.
This is not about the party,
this is about some sort of festering rot inside your soul dude.
>> Yeah, I want to know what party big wig was needed the convincing
to make George Santos the candidate that his mom died in 911.
Like who was that to sway over to your side within the Republican party?
That's just such a ridiculous lie.
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