[ INAUDIBLE QUESTION ] .
. >> WHAT DO YOU KNOW?
>> I KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE
DOES.
DOES. NOTHING.
NOTHING. >> THAT IS PRESIDENT TRUMP
RESPONDING ABOUT THE SAUDI
JOURNALIST WHO VANISHED AFTER
ENTERING THE CONSULATE.
TURKISH OFFICIALS SAY HE WAS
KILLED THERE.
KILLED THERE. A SECURITY CAMERA APPEARS TO
SHOW HIM WALKING INTO THE
CONSULATE.
CONSULATE. WE HAVE SEEN NO EVIDENCE THAT HE
EVER WALKED OUT.
A STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESMAN
SAYS THAT THE SECRETARY POMPEO
HAS SPOKEN WITH SAUDI OFFICIALS
AND THE U.S. DOES NOT KNOW WHAT
HAPPENED.
HAPPENED. VICE PRESIDENT PENCE SAYS HE IS
DEEPLY TROUBLED ADDING VIOLENCE
IS AGAINST JOURNALISTS IS A
THREATS.
THREATS. AND JOINING US, RICHARD ENGEL.
THIS IS ALARMING TO SAY THE
LEAST.
LEAST. DOES ANYBODY BELIEVE HE IS
ALIVE?
ALIVE? >> IT IS POSSIBLE.
THERE ARE TWO WORKING THEORIES
IN ISTANBUL.
IN ISTANBUL. THEY ARE LEANING TOWARD THAT HE
IS DEAD, BUT THE OTHER WORK
THEORY IS THAT THIS IS A
RENDITION
RENDITION RENDITION, AN ATTEMPT BY THE
SAUDIS TO GRAB HIM OUT OF
COUNTRY FOR INTERROGATION, TO
WORK HIM OVER, TRY TO TEACH HIM
A LESSON, TRY TO CHANGE HIM AND
CONVERTS HIM AND THAT THAT
RENDITION MAY HAVE GONE BADLY
AND HE DIED IN THE PROCESS.
SO TWO WORKING THEORYS.
ONE, THEY MEANT TO GRAB HIM AND
DIDN’T.
DIDN’T. THE OTHER IS THAT THEY MEANT TO
GRAB HIM AND KILL HIM.
>> HE CALLED HIM WHAT WE ARE
SEEING NOW, IMPULSIVE, THAT HE
WAS AUTHORITARIAN AND IN HIS
LAST INTERVIEW THREE DAYS BEFORE
HE DISAPPEARED, HE WAS AFRAID TO
GO HOME 37
GO HOME.
GO HOME. >> AND MORE OUTRAGE AT THE STATE
DEPARTMENT.
DEPARTMENT. >> AND HE HAS AN ALLY IN JARED
KUSHNER AND IN ISRAEL.
IN THE UAE.
AND IN EGYPTEGYPT.
THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO WOULD NOT
LIKE TO CAUSE A MAJOR
CONTROVERSY TO A FRIEND.
TO SOMEONE THEY HOPE WILL
DELIVER A BROAD EXPANSIVE PEACE
IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
>> THERE HAS BEEN A WORKING
THEORY IN A MBS WILL BE THIS
PRACTICING NAT SUNTHIS --
THIS PRAGMATIC LEADER.
HE ISMOURNIZING.
HE ISMOURNIZING. A PRACTICINGGMATIC HOPE.
>> AENDND HE IS A TRANSFORMATIVE
FIGURE.
FIGURE. AND SINCE IT IS FOUNDED, IT HAS
WORKED ONE WAY WHERE THE SONS,
BROTHER TO BROTHER TO BROTHER TO
BROTHER HAVE BECOME KINGS.
IT IS NOT WHAT YOU NORMALLY
THINK FLG AOF AS A MONARCHY.
BECAUSE HE HAD 45 MALE CHILDREN.
THE CONCERN NOW AMONG ALL THE
OTHER MEMBERS OF THE ROYAL
FAMILY IS THAT NOW IT WILL
CHANGE.
CHANGE. AND IT WILL GO FROM THE KING TO
HIS SON AND SON OF FWRANDGRAND S
GRANDSON AND THE REST OF THE
ROYALS WILL BE CUT OFF.
>> WILL SAUDI ARABIA PAY A PRICE
IF ESSENTIALLY THE WORLD
COMMUNITY INCLUDING THE WESTERN
ALLIES CAN PROVE THAT THEY WERE
BEHIND HIS DEATH?
>> IF THEY CAN’T FIND A BODY, I
THINK THAT IT WILL BE VERY
DIFFICULT TO MAKE SAUDI ARABIA
PAY A PRICE.
BECAUSE AT THIS STAGE IT IS SORT
OF A HE SAID/SHE SAID.
MOSTLY UNNAMED TURKISH OFFICIALS
ARE PUTTING A LOT OF PRESSURE,
BUT THEY WANT THE PROBLEM TO GO
AWAY.
AWAY. RIGHT NOW IT IS A HE SAID/SHE
SAID.
SAID. THERE WERE THESE CONVOYS THAT
LEFT THE KONSCONSULATE, PLANES T
MYSTERIOUSLY TOOK OFF.
BUT THEY DON’T HAVE A BODY.
>> THAT AMERICAN PRESIDENT TODAY
THAT WAS ASKED ABOUT JAMAL SAID
I’VE READ ABOUT REPORTS, HE
DIDN’T SEEM TO BE CONCERNED.
HE DIDN’T EXPRESS CONCERN.
HE DIDN’T ISSUE A WARNING THAT
THE SAUDIS I HOPE WHAT I’M
HEARING ISN’T TRUE.
ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
>> NO, AND HE WAS SAYING, WELL,
I DON’T KNOW.
IT IS A HE SAID/SHE SAID.
>> IS THAT GIVING A PERMISSION
SLIP?
SLIP? WHAT ARE THE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES THAT THE UNITED
STATES IS NOT CALLING OUT SAUDI
ARABIA ON THIS OR CHINA OVER
WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO THE HEAD
OF INTERPOL?
OF INTERPOL? ARE THEY RELATED?
>> I THINK IT MIGHT BE TOO BROAD
OF A BRUSH TO SAY A THAT THEY
ARE ALL RELATED.
THEY ARE TO A DEGREE THAT THIS
PRESIDENT RESPECTS PEOPLE WHO
USE POWER.
USE POWER. SEEMS TO HAVE A PENSION FOR AND
YOU ARE AUTHORITARIAN LEADERS.
BUT WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY IS
THERE IS A -- HE IS SAYING THAT
SAUDIS DIDN’T DO IT AND TURKS
SAY
SAY THAT THEY DID.
BUT TURKS HAVE IMAGES OF HIM
GOING INTO DON’T LATCONSULATE AN