A new leak indicates that three months before the Nordstream
pipeline was bombed last September, a close ally to the Biden
administration informed the White House about a Ukrainian military
plan to essentially launch a covert attack on the Undersea network.
Now they would use a small team of divers who
would report to the Commander in Chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
How do we know about this?
How do we know that the White House was briefed on this?
Well, it's thanks to the leak that happened on Discord.
Let me give you more details on that.
Details about the plan, which have not been previously reported, were collected
by a European intelligence service and shared with the CIA in June of 2022.
The European intelligence reporting was shared on the chat platform
Discord allegedly by Air National Guard member Jack Teixeira.
The Washington Post obtained a copy from one of Teixeira's online friends.
Now what did that document indicate?
Well, it did indicate that the Ukrainian military had a plan
in place to essentially carry out this attack on Nord Stream 1 specifically.
So the intelligence report was based on intel obtained by
an individual in Ukraine.
The officials in the United States have confirmed this document and
I guess the veracity of the document, it is confirmed.
It's not some fake document that someone's trying to plant as a hoax.
The sources for the information could not be immediately corroborated, but
the CIA shared the report with Germany and other European countries last June.
Okay, so this is intel that was shared not only with the United States,
but also with our European allies.
Now according to the leaked documents, the Ukrainians had planned
to attack the pipeline on the heels of a major allied naval exercise
known as BALTOPS, which ran from June 5 to 17th of 2022.
According to the report, the intelligence summary says that the Ukrainian
military operation was put on hold for reasons that remain unclear.
Okay, and I wanna just stop for a second and provide this caveat.
Although we have this document, although we know the Ukrainian military
was planning to conduct this operation and attack the Nord Stream pipeline,
it is still not 1000% confirmed that they're the ones behind it.
If we were to speculate though, I would speculate that they were behind it.
And I'll tell you why as I give you more details.
Jake, do you wanna jump in real quick?
>> Yeah, I hesitate even calling it speculation.
They have pretty overwhelming evidence.
>> Yeah, you're gonna hear it in a minute.
>> Yeah, it's not just that one leak.
There's several different things that confirm that it's in that direction.
Plus common sense guys, common sense always told you the Russians are not
likely to blow up their own multibillion dollar pipelines just to do a false flag.
And I got you on Ukraine and the consequences of this as it relates
to how the west is going to support ukraine is also very interesting.
But yeah, for now, for me, I think the issue is settled.
It is very likely that the Ukrainians and I'm on the Ukrainian side,
I want them to win.
I think it was terrible they were invaded, but I'm not sure this was a good idea.
>> So when Jake mentions that there are now multiple sources,
it's not just this document that was leaked by Teixeira.
The German government also conducted their own investigations.
And we're gonna get to the findings of that investigation in just a moment.
So again, going back to the document,
all those involved reported directly to General Valery Zaluzhny,
which is the country's highest ranking military officer.
They did not want Zelensky to know about this, according to the document.
They wanted everyone to report specifically to this military general who
was put in charge so that Ukraine's President Zelensky wouldn't know
about the operation the intelligence report said.
Okay, so keeping Zelensky out of the loop would have given the Ukrainian leader
basically a plausible way to deny that Ukraine was behind it.
So if Zelensky's been denying it, there is a plausible reason why he's doing so.
He might not have known that they had conducted this attack.
Now, before the war, Germany got half of its natural gas from Russia and also had
long championed the project in the face of opposition from other European allies.
And so Germany finding out that Ukraine was behind it would be a little bit
disastrous because right now Germany obviously is supporting Ukraine.
Now, according to German law enforcement officials investigating
the September Nord Stream bombing, key details emerging of that operation
actually do line up quite a bit with this intel report.
So let's get to that.
The Ukrainian individual that informed the European Intelligence Service in
June said that six members of Ukraine's special operations forces,
using false identities intended to rent a boat and using a submersible vehicle.
Dive to the floor of the Baltic Sea, then damage or destroy the pipeline and
escape undetected.
In addition to oxygen, the team planned to bring helium,
which is recommended for especially deep dives.
Now let's get to the German investigation.
German investigators now believe that six individuals using fake
passports rented a sailing yacht in September,
embarked from Germany and planted explosives that severed the pipelines
according to officials familiar with that investigation.
They believe that operatives were skilled divers,
given that the explosives were planted at a depth of about 240 feet
in the range that experts say helium would be helpful for maintaining mental focus.
And Ukraine obviously had reason to wanna bomb this pipeline.
So Ukraine had long complained that Nord Stream would allow Russia
to bypass Ukrainian pipes, depriving Kyiv of huge transit revenue.
Also, investigators have matched explosive residue found on the pipeline
to traces found inside the cabin of the yacht called Andromeda.
And they have linked Ukrainian individuals to the rental of the boat via
an apparent front company in Poland.
Investigators also suspect that at least one individual who
serves in the Ukrainian military was involved in the sabotage operation.
I mean, we've got more.
We're gonna give you more, but, like, come on, guys.
I think it's pretty obvious.
>> Yeah, it looks like we got an Andromeda's train here.
All right, so do Zelinsky know?
Now I don't really much care.
They say they didn't tell him, so they could have plausible deniability, but
that's exactly what they would say if they told him and he was part of the decision.
And then everybody in the room went, remember, Zelensky wasn't here.
Okay, so that also happens.
Okay, so we'll never know.
We'll probably never know.
But it doesn't matter why because Ukraine did it.
If Ukraine did it, it is what it is.
Either you couldn't get control of your own government or
you were part of the decision.
Either way, it's on your government, okay?
So that's number one.
Number two is we knew ahead of time the US did, and
we either couldn't stop them or we didn't stop them.
Now, the Ukrainians not only benefit in terms of the war by blowing this up, but
as Anna just read you the quote, they also benefit economically.
They never liked the pipeline in the first place because it was costing some of
the powerful people in Ukraine money, and that's a giant factor here.
We also didn't want that pipeline because we wanna sell natural gas and
other fuels to Europe.
So golly gee, did their pipeline blow up?
Okay.
>> Well, in fact, I do wanna get to what the White House was up
to in terms of messaging on this because what they were saying publicly differed
from what they started to believe privately and internally, okay,?
So some Biden administration officials, as the Washington Post writes,
initially suggested that Russia was to blame for what President Biden called
a deliberate act of sabotage, promising that the United States would work with
its allies to get to the bottom of exactly what happened.
But then Biden administration officials now privately concede there
is no evidence that conclusively points to Moscow's involvement.
But publicly they have deflected questions about who might be responsible.
And look, our European allies apparently are no better when it comes to this
because they're doing the same thing.
This excerpt from this Washington Post piece was telling and incredible.
European officials in several countries have quietly suggested that Ukraine was
behind the attack, but resisted publicly saying so
over fears that blaming Kyiv would fracture the alliance against Russia.
At gatherings of European and NATO policymakers,
officials have settled into a rhythm as one senior European
diplomat said recently, don't talk about Nord Stream.
It's embarrassing.
It really is.
I mean, come on.
>> Apparently that's first rule of the European Club
is we don't talk about the Nord Stream or
maybe the European Club altogether anyway, enough movie references.
So, look, Anna and
I had a discussion about the f whether we should sell them to Ukraine.
It wouldn't be us directly, but it'd be other allies.
But they'd be selling our F 16s basically, right and so included with the technology.
And one of the reasons we did not sell it before, because we were worried they were
going to use it inside Russia, and that was going to be deeply problematic.
And Anna, you were both a little bit wrong and significantly right
in terms of this article and what it shows about what we'll do.
You said, come on, we can't stop them from doing anything.
And this article shows that on a number of occasions,
we actually did pull the Ukrainians back from being more
aggressively attacking Russia inside Russia.
Okay, so that's the part where you were a little wrong.
Apparently we do push back and sometimes we do succeed.
But the part you were massively right is they're dying they're attacking side
Russia.
>> They've been doing it with drone strikes and everything.
>> And that's right.
And we've stopped a lot of it, but we haven't stopped all of it.
But the minute they have the F mean, it's not the minute because they still need
more weapons from us, they still need more money from us, so we have some leverage
over them, but they're itching to attack inside Russia all the way into Moscow.
And so the minute those FCC war, >> It's an escalation of war.
All these wannabe leftists running around spouting pro war rhetoric to
essentially provide cover for an escalation of war.
Just understand what you're doing.
You are justifying an escalation of war while pretending like peace
negotiations are out of the question.
They could never happen.
What happened to the left being anti war and pro peace?
What happened to that?
>> So the hashtag Anna was right that I was getting to is
>> You haven't even gotten there.
>> No yeah, I have basically.
But my point is that in that story, Anna said there's an excellent chance that
they will use these F 16s inside Russia once they have them.
And after reading this piece and
all the evidence of how much they wanna attack inside Russia and
how little they listen to us, yeah, it's going to get bad.
I'm not saying definitely, but now I think it's likely that at some point,
ukraine will stop listening to us entirely and start attacking inside Russia.
And then you got a bigger war.
>> Absolutely.
>> And then I don't know what we're gonna do with that.
>> All right, but apparently the left wing position now is Russia bad, Ukraine good.
So regardless of what Ukraine could do, regardless of what kind of escalation of
war we are encouraging as their Western ally, since Russia bad and Ukraine good,
we have to cheerlead everything that Ukraine is doing.
No, I don't comply to that.
And I think that's stupid, unnuanced thinking.
Go ahead and get mad about it.