>>> LAST NIGHT A GUNMAN OPENED FIRE ON A LARGE CROWD AT A
COUNTRY MUSIC CONCERT IN LAS VEGAS, NEVADA.
HE BRUTALLY MURDERED MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE AND WOUNDED HUNDREDS
MORE. IT WAS AN ACT OF PURE EVIL.
>> THAT WAS THE PRESIDENT ADDRESSING THE NATION THIS
MORNING AND CALLING FOR UNITY AND PEACE AFTER THE LAS VEGAS
SHOOTING. BOTH THE WHITE HOUSE AND
CONGRESS OBSERVED MOMENTS OF SILENCE IN HONOR OF THE VICTIMS
OF THE SHOOTINGING. PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL VISIT LAS
VEGAS ON WEDNESDAY TO MEET WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRST
RESPONDERS AND THE FAMILIES OF VICTIMS.
HERE'S THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY ON WHETHER THE
SHOOTING WILL HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE PRESIDENT'S POSITION ON GUN
CONTROL. >> THIS IS AN UNSPEAKABLE
TRAGEDY. TODAY IS A DAY FOR CONSOLING
SURVIVORS AND MOURNING THOSE WE LOST.
OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE CERTAINLY WITH ALL OF THOSE
INDIVIDUALS. THIS IS -- THERE'S A TIME AND
PLACE FOR A POLITICAL DEBATE BUT NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE AS A
COUNTRY. THERE'S CURRENTLY AN OPEN AND
ONGOING LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATION, A MOTIVE IS YET
TO BE DETERMINED AND IT WOULD BE PREMATURE FOR US TO DISCUSS
POLICY WHEN WE DON'T FULLY KNOW ALL THE FACTS OR WHAT TOOK PLACE
LAST NIGHT. >> JOINED NOW BY RACHEL MADDOW
AND CHRIS HAYES. IT IS ABOUT DAY FOR THOUGHTS AND
PRAYERS. >> YEAH.
>> SOMETHING -- I MEAN, WATCHING SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS SAY THAT
I'M TAKEN BACK TO ORLANDO AND THE HORRIBLE TRAUMA OF THE
AFTERMATH OF THE PULSE SHOOTING AND WATCHING THEN KAND TRUMP
CALL ON A BAN OF A FULL MILLION PEOPLE FROM COMING TO THE
COUNTRY. THERE WAS NO SENSE THEN IT WAS
TOO EARLY. THERE WAS AN ONGOING LAW
ENFORCEMENT INVEST, TO GET THE FACTS.
ALL OF THE -- SOME OF THOSE SHOULD BE CLEAR ARE TOTALLY
REASONABLE THINGS TO SAY PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE FACT OF
AN ONGOING LAW ENFORCEMENT -- >> YES.
>> LET'S -- BUT THAT IS A STANDARD I HAVE TO SAY ALMOST
KIND OF MADDENING TO WATCH THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A STANDARD THIS
EXTREMELY UNEVENLY APPLY BD THE WHITE HOUSE TO CALL THE
TERRORISM THAT WAS NOT AND RUN WITH THE FIRST REPORTS OF ALL
SORTS OF THINGS THINKING THEY COULD HAVE POINTS ON THE BOARD
POLITICALLY AND VERY DIFFERENT --
>> YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE HAPPY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THERE ARE
APPROPRIATE POLICY RESPONSES TO MASS SHOOTINGS AND MASSACRES
EXCEPT WHEN -- >> RIGHT.
WHEN IT DIDN'T FIT -- DOESN'T FIT INTO THE SORT OF BOX THAT
THEY HAVE. AND WE HAVE SEEN IT TIME AND
TIME AGAIN AND IT'S BEEN A REALLY -- TO ME UNNERVING
TENDENCY OF THE PRESIDENT TO TWEET ABOUT THINGS HAPPENING
THAT APPEAR TO BE "X" BY ISIS MINUTES INTO IT, AN HOUR INTO IT
AND PEOPLE FIGURING OUT WHAT HAPPENED.
>> YEAH. >> YOU SEE ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS
RESTRAINT. NOW.
THAT DOESN'T -- >> BECAUSE IT'S -- AND IT'S
BECAUSE IT'S FRIENDS AND ONLY APPARENT --
>> RIGHT. >> I MEAN --
>> ONLY THING WE KNOW FOR SURE. >> AND THE THING THAT SEEMS
DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS, I MEAN DIFFERENT EVEN COMPARED TO
PULSE, DIFFERENT EVEN COMPARED TO SANDY HOOK AND VIRGINIA TECH,
IS THAT THIS KILLER APPEARS TO HAVE PUT TOGETHER AN ARSENAL
THAT IS -- SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN SORT OF MAXING OUT WHAT YOU CAN
DO WITH LEGAL WEAPONRY. >> YES.
>> WE STILL DON'T KNOW THE QUESTION OF AUTOMATIC WEAPONS
FIRE AND LOTS OF SUPPOSITIONS IN TERMS OF HANDS ON AN AUTOMATIC
WEAPON OR MODIFIED IT TO F FIRE LIKE AN AUTOMATIC AND THE SHEER
NUMBER OF GUNS. GOT AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE.
>> UPDATED THE NUMBER. >> IN THE HOTEL 23 GUNS, AT HIS
PROPERTY IN MESQUITE ANOTHER 19 GUNS AND TOLD THROUGH OTHER
REPORTING SOURCES, ALL LONG GUNS, RIFLES.
USING WEIRD AFTERMARKET MODIFICATIONS ON THE GUNS, A
PROBLEM FOR THAT FOR MAXIMUM MAYHEM, THEY MAKE YOUR GUN
GLITCHY AND SOLVE THAT WITH 20 OF THEM BECAUSE THEN AS SOON AS
ONE MISFIRES, GREAT BRITAIN ANOTHER, GRAB ANOTHER.
THAT MAKES THE FINANCIAL ASPECT VERY INTERESTING, TECHNOLOGICAL
ASPECT VERY INTERESTING IN TERMS OF WHAT KIND OF WEAPONS HE HAD
ACCESS TO AND THE POLICY QUESTION VERY, VERY CLEARLY
GUNS. THE EVEN BEFORE WE KNOW ABOUT
HIS MOTIVATION OR ANY CONNECTIONS TO ANYBODY ELSE.
WE AS A COUNTRY DECIDED TO NOT TALK ABOUT GUNS AT LEAST AT THE
FEDERAL LEVEL AND SO IT LEAVES US MUTE IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR
NOT WE WILL HAVE A PRACTICAL DISCUSSION.
>> POLITICALLY NOW THE ONE THING OTHER THING REPUBLICANS ANYWAY
IN CONGRESS DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS SILENCERS.
THEY WERE MOVING LEGISLATE LIVELY POSSIBLY NEXT WEEK TO
DEREGULATING SILENCERS TO MAKE THIS WORSE BECAUSE WE HEARD BUZZ
BRAINARD SAYING THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GUNSHOTS AT FIRST.
TOOK A LONG TIME TO REALIZE IT WAS A GUNSHOTS.
WITH SILENCING CAPACITY, WHAT WOULD IT HAVE TAKE SNN SEE THE
BODIES BE FALLING BEFORE THEY WILL HAVE A SENSE OF IT AT ALL.
THE REPUBLICANS ARE PULLING DOWN THAT EFFORT.
TO DEREGULATE THE SILENCERS SO THAT'S SOME MOVEMENT.
>> THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISINFORMATION, NOT JUST
MISINFORMATION BUT DISINFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
THE NRA SAYING STUFF ABOUT HOW SILENCERS WOULDN'T HAVE MADE A
DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF FINDING THE SHOOTER, WE CALLING GUN
RANGES AND PAYING MONEY TO SHOOT AROUND HERE, WE CALLED PEOPLE
LOCALLY AND EVERYBODY TOLD US, YOU CAN PUT SILENCERS ON THAT
WEAPON AND WOULD HAVE MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
WHY YOU NEED SILENCERS IN THIS COUNTRY, EAR PLUGS, IT'S NOT
SUBJECT TO -- >> CHRIS?
>> THERE'S A -- RACHEL AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS.
THE MENTAL CATEGORIES THAT WE HAVE ERECTED AND COME TO APPLY
TO EVENTS LIKE THIS HAPPENING WITH THE FREQUENCY OF THE UNITED
STATES AND NOWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD HAVE CERTAIN BOX THAT IS
WE LOOK FOR AND THE IDEA THAT IT WOULD BE A TERRORIST ATTACK OF
ISIS, THE IDEA OF MENTALLY DISTURBED, RED FLAGS OR SOCIAL
MEDIA POSTS OR A PROCESS OF RAGE FILLED DISSENT THAT HAPPENED AND
WE'LL LEARN MORE AND AT ONE LEVEL THERE'S A DESIRE TO
UNDERSTAND THE MOTIVATION TO MAKE IT MAKE SENSE AND SOME
LEVEL THERE'S AN ESSENTIAL INSKRUTABILITY AND STANDING HERE
LOOKING AT THIS PERSON DID IS SO GHASTLY AND SO HORRIBLE AND TOOK
SUCH A COMBINATION OF PLANNING AND MALEVOLENCE AND AT THIS
POINT, IT FEELS LIKE FLUMOXES MIKA PASTIE.
>> A PERSON ON THE STAGE WAS CALEB, ONE OF THE MUSICIANS IN A
BAND AND HE SAID I'VE BEEN A LIFELONG PROPONENT OF THE 2nd
AMENDMENT, A STRONG SUPPORTER, AND HE SAID I CANNOT -- THESE
ARE HIS WORDS. I CANNOT EXPRESS HOW WRONG I
WAS. HE HAS COMPLETELY REVERSED
HIMSELF ON THIS 2nd AMENDMENT PUBLICLY TODAY AND WHAT'S REALLY
SURPRISING ABOUT THAT IS WE NORMALLY DON'T HAVE SOMETHING
LIKE THAT TO REPORT AFTER ONE OF THESE.
>> NO ONE CHANGES THEIR MIND. >> CAN'T BRING YOU THE PROMINENT
PERSON OR THE PERSON INVOLVED WHO CHANGES THEIR MIND ABOUT IT.
IT'S JUST AN AMAZING THING. >> THERE WAS A MAN TRYING TO
MURDER A DOZEN REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS SEVERAL
MONTHS AGO AND THERE WAS NO -- I MEAN, THEY WERE ON THE -- THEY
WERE THERE. THEY WERE ON THE RECEIVING END
OF THIS, ALMOST MURDERED. ONE OF THE PROMINENT REPUBLICANS
IN CONGRESS AND NOTHING LIKE THAT.
AND THE THING THAT KEELER SAID THAT'S KEY HERE, ALSO, IS ONE OF
THE MOST PERVERSE NOTIONS IN THIS CONVERSATION, TAKING ASIDE
ALL THE POLICY RATIONALS AND LEGAL QUESTIONS IS PEOPLE HAVE
GUNS THEY STOP THIS. >> MORE GUNS, THAT IS A -- HE
ADDRESSES THIS. >> SPECIFICALLY TO SAY --
>> THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONCEALED CARRY LICENSES, GUNS
ON OUR TOUR BUSES. ALL USELESS TO US WITH THE
INSANE AMOUNT OF FIRE POWER TO PUT TOGETHER.
THAT IS TECHNOLOGY STORY AND IT -- IF IT'S GOING TO BE --
GOING TO BE ANYTHING OTHER THAN USUAL IMPOTENCE ON THE STORY IT
IS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY THAT MADE THIS
POSSIBLE AT A POLICY LEVEL AND WE HAVE HEARD THAT HERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE DO IT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.