Thank you. Well, it has been for
days since Title 42 expired and
this morning migrants continue
to be processed at our border.
So joining us to talk about all these
changes now at our border legal analyst, Dan
Eaton. So good to see you.
Thanks for joining us.
Good to be with you guys.
Now we do want to ask of course
under this new version of Title,
you know we've been
covering the many migrants.
We were there last week,
seeing them in San Ysidro,
now huge group in Hakamba.
So what happens to those people?
Are they disqualified?
Basically for coming because thy
came in and now what happens?
Not necessarily.
Remember, there are two different ways
that they can arrange for asylu.
One is through the Customs
and Border Patrol apps.
You would be one app. The other,
of course is by initially seeking asylum,
being denied asylum by the couny
through which they are passing,
which obviously doesn't apply to
migrants who are originating.
In Mexico. So these policies
are going to be in place now.
They will apply to those who are there.
But the asylum process is not ey
and it's not designed to be eas.
So this idea that the border
is open is wrong.
On top of that,
you have these additional
restrictions that make it hardeo
seek asylum on Friday than it w.
On Thursday.
But will those restrictions hold up in court?
There are challenges,
so there's all kinds of fun
law issues to talk
about. Do you want to just touch on that?
Because a lot of the people whoe
it here to our border didn't know they
needed to go stop in another country.
Their first stop asked for asylum there.
Obviously they thought they could come here
and then they'd go through the process.
But. But nada, here's what's
complicating this on top of everything.
Well, who would you normally
consult for that? An attorney.
And yet one of the new rules is,
is cutting the time you have tot
an attorney for a credible fear
interview from 48 hours to 24 h.
And if you flunk that interview back,
you go and you can come back for five years.
So they're all these layers
that are going on.
And to your point,
these people aren't aware of all
of this unless they're watching.
CBSA Can you touch on the legals
of what we saw unfold there at e
border when people were just sig
there lying in the dirt for sevl
days just with a trash bag over
the what were some of the legal
implications or issues involved
with that? Eric,
the legal implications are of course,
because when you're talking about asylum,
you're talking about both the US
law with respect to immigrationd
Nationality Act and internationl
law with respect to how you're
supposed to treat refugees.
That's why what you have this.
Sort of crosscurrent of law going on.
On the one hand you have this obligation
to treat people in a humane way.
On the other hand,
you have this issue of protectig
your border and making sure that
those who are genuinely fearing
or running from persecution,
it's not enough that they had
economic hardship or seeking as,
because if they're not,
if that's not why they're coming
over because of persecution.
Because of a membership
in a particular group,
they have no business seeking
asylum in the 1st place.
And there are criminal conseque,
by the way,
to their attempt to get over hee
if they don't have a credible fr
that weren't present when they
were simply being turned away.
Summarily,
when the Title 42 policy now expired,
was in effect.
OK, interesting. So for those gs
that have been left out there,
you know, for waiting for Border
Patrol to take them in the vansd
process them and go through the system,
a lot of humanitarian aid workes
have been watching this very closely,
saying that is. Not allowed.
They shouldn't have been left for 6-7
days in the dirt with a granola.
What are your thoughts on that?
Will there be more, you know,
lawsuits possibly about this? W,
what you're going to see in that
is what you are already seeing,
which is that they're
speeding this up and so forth.
And then on top of that you
have this issue of, well,
what about those who are being caught
and released without a court da?
Well, a Florida judge, Justin Thursday,
said no, you can't do that.
That exceeds your legal authori.
They have to at least have a cot
date to go through the process .
Of asylum seeking before you
can simply release them.
So you have all of these issues
that you are all raising,
that all are implicated by
this change in policy.
A shift in policy is going to
result in a shift behavior,
at least among officials who
are responsible for our border,
even if not among the migrants who after all,
can't really be expected to keep
with the latest shifts in polic.
We're confused about it.
You can only imagine people
who don't speak our language,
what they're going to travel
thousands. 10s of miles.
But to your point,
we're not just talking about
people who are in Mexico.
We're even Central America and so forth.
You're talking about all over the world,
280,000,000 stateless people,
and only a few of those are here in America.
It raises all kinds of complications,
humanitarian, legal, ethical,
all kinds of issues.
But the legal stuff is what
I'm here to talk immigration
attorneys in high demand, very,
very high. Very busy time for t.
Dan, thanks for coming in here.
It was good to be with you guys.
Your time belated. Happy
Mother's Day. Thank you.