A drug dealer posted a seemingly
harmless photo of himself,
on an encrypted messaging site
where drug dealers typically do
their business.
Now, he didn't post
a picture of his face, but
he did post a picture of himself
holding a block of cheese.
Apparently it's some fancy block of
cheese, and that photo which I'm
about to show you right now,
ended up getting him arrested.
So, there's the photo, he's holding
a Mature Blue Stilton block of
cheese, and through that photo
authorities were able to analyse
his fingerprints, and arrest him.
Carl Stewart, 39, from
Liverpool Northwestern England sent
a picture on an encrypted device of
a block of Stilton he had found in
an upmarket British grocery store.
The photograph was discovered by
police who used it to analyse his
fingerprints and identify Stuart.
So, there he is there's his mug
shot, he got caught.
And the Detective Inspector Lee
Wilkinson issued a comment on this
saying that Stewart, was involved
in supplying large amounts of class
A and class B drugs, but was caught
out by his love of Stilton cheese.
I feel you, I feel you I mean, I
don't know about Stilton cheese but
I love cheese, after sharing
a picture of a block of it in his
hand through encrochat.
So that's the name of the encrypted
messaging platform, his palm and
fingerprints were analyzed from his
picture and it was established
they belonged to Stewart.
It's pretty crazy Nando,
we've talked about robots being
implemented by local police,
in some cases to even help to evict
people.
We've talked about other forms of
surveillance and technology used to
do some pretty scary things.
I didn't realize that technology
had advanced to the point where
they can literally analyze your
fingerprints from a photo.
>> Yeah, if it's not even safe to
hold the block of cheese then what
is it safe to do at this point?
It's interesting because,
as things get worse and worse,
which they are, and as the climate
catastrophe gets worse, which
it will, they're going to need new
methods of social control.
I mean that's what's behind
all this surveillance and
the increasing kind of police
technology to be able to,
essentially control
the population, right?
That's what's going on, and
sometimes it's funny, and
I don't know if this guy was a good
guy or not or he seems like he was
a drug dealer, which whatever, but
it's just terrifying that
they can now do that.
I mean, we've talked about what was
that crazy story you
did on weekends, about
what was it drone helicopter things
that were- >> Yeah, >> Flying above
our heads and, >> Certain cities.
>> I mean that's what that is.
>> Yeah, just to tell the audience
certain cities started implementing
these 24 hour drone surveillance
programs, which the way that they
sell it to people is it's going to
keep you safe, it's going to root
out crime, it's so much better.
But no, it's obviously a huge
privacy concern,
you don't want a drone flying over
your private backyard, right?
You want to be able to like enjoy
your life and
have a little bit of private space.
So yeah, you're absolutely right I
mean things have gotten pretty
battle ready in regard to
the surveillance.
And also, I mean, you got issues
with facial recognition technology,
especially how insanely flawed they
are in determining the right person
of color that they're looking for.
I mean, it's insane it's insane but
yeah I mean, I tend to agree with
you, I looked into him I couldn't
find too many details about his
crimes other than he sells drugs.
But the way that they also caught
him and this is important for
any one of you who might be
engaging in questionable behavior
on these encrypted messaging sites.
He was using the messaging site
himself under the handle Toughy
Force, he seems to be a lover of
[CROSSTALK] [LAUGH] I guess.
But he was using the platform to
sell drugs, right to communicate
with the individuals who he was
going to sell to.
And so they wanted to determine
who is this guy and all they
needed was that picture of him,
which he posted through the chat,
holding the block of cheese to
analyze his fingerprints.
So I mean, I have so many questions
and as far as I know,
there aren't really any answers for
it in response to this story but,
what does the resolution of
the photo need to be?
Right, and but seriously,
because if it's too pixelated,
are they going to be able to
analyse the fingerprints correctly?
What if they get the wrong person,
as a result of the photo?
What if you moved a tiny bit
as the photo was being taken and
there's a little bit of a blur.
I don't know,
just there's always room for this
technology to fail and for innocent
people to end up getting accused of
crimes that they haven't committed.
That's the other part of it that's
concerning because oftentimes
people just think no, but it's it's
advanced technology, it's flawless,
it's great driverless car.
I mean,
yeah driverless cars they're so
great but no,
there's a lot of room for error,
and when you're talking about.
>> DNA testing, which all the all
the cop shows like CSI and
all that stuff taught us that
basically every crime is
solved by finding semen or
blood or sweat, at the crime scene.
Even that apparently is like
incredibly flawed and
that it's not as kind of one-to-one
as we're led to believe that these
kinds of technologies,
aren't 100% foolproof.
They're not even close to 100%
foolproof, it's not yeah, there's
a significant, potential for error.
But I think the public,
and I think a lot of now,
people in the justice system and
things like that,
when some expert goes up there and
is well now the fingerprints,
they're this and
they're the exact same ones.
And they're going to go, okay,
well, whatever the computer says it
they're you know what I mean?
But it's not entirely clear that
that technology actually even works
up to the degree that people think
it does.
>> Yeah, that's a really great
point, and when you consider
the burden of proof and finding
someone guilty of murder I mean,
they need to be found guilty beyond
a reasonable doubt like that's
the standard.
If you are the defense attorney and
there's DNA evidence indicating
that your client did it
did the crime,
just bring on experts who question
the validity of DNA testing.
I mean, it's just kind of yeah,
it's scary stuff,
it's absolutely scary stuff.
I remember reading a lengthy piece
about the reliability of drug
sniffing dogs, and how often they
actually get it wrong.
So obviously that's not advanced
technology, but so many of the
methods of either surveillance or
evidence gathering that we've been
taught to trust wholeheartedly,
certainly do have their flaws.
And when you're
talking about technology,
which of course is developed by
people who have their own biases,
who make their own mistakes, human
error plays a role in all of this.
You're going to deal with faulty
methods of determining
who is a criminal, faulty
methods of evidence gathering.
And it is really scary stuff
because for
some people if they're innocent,
it could be the difference between
freedom or being imprisoned for
a crime you haven't committed.
In this case, I don't know, it
seems like he committed this crime
because he was also communicating
with others about the drugs he was
selling, and he's already been
sentenced to 13 years and
six months in prison- >> Jesus.
>> He pleaded guilty to conspiracy
to supply cocaine, heroin, MDMA and
ketamine, and to transferring
criminal property police said, so
they threw the book at him.