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NOW WE TURN TO THE FACTS YOU NEED TO KNOW AS AMERICA RECKONS
WITH RENEWED DISCUSSIONS OF
TERROR IN THE WAKE OF EL PASO.
POLITICS CAN GET IN THE WAY OF
FACTS.
FACTS. SOME OF TRUMP’S ALLIES ARE NOW
FALSELY DENYING THAT WHITE
SUPREMACY ITSELF IS A PROBLEM IN
AMERICA.
AMERICA. TUCKER CARLSON KICKING UP A
FIRESTORM THIS WEEK WITH NEW
COMMENTS CLAIMING WHITE
SUPREMACY IS JUST A HOAX.
>> IF YOU WERE TO ASSEMBLE A
LIST, A HIERARCHY OF CONCERNS,
OF PROBLEMS THIS IS COUNTRY
FACES WHERE WOULD WHITE
SUPREMACY BE ON THE LIST?
RIGHT UP THERE WITH RUSSIA
PROBABLY.
PROBABLY. IT’S NOT A REAL PROBLEM IN
AMERICA.
AMERICA. THIS IS A HOAX.
JUST LIKE THE RUSSIA HOAX.
IT’S A CONSPIRACY THEORY USED TO
DIVIDE THE COUNTRY AND KEEP A
HOLD ON POWER.
THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT’S GOING ON.
>> NOW TO THE FACTS.
ASSEMBLING A LIST OF PROBLEMS IN
AMERICA ISN’T A HYPOTHETICAL.
POLLSTERS IS ASKED AMERICANS TO
DO IT.
DO IT. THEY FIND AMERICANS THINK
TERRORISM IS A PROBLEM.
IT POLLS NUMBER ONE, 73% OF
AMERICANS SAYING IT IS A
PRIORITY ABOVE THE ECONOMY AND
ENNEN IMMIGRATION.
ENNEN IMMIGRATION. AMERICANS THINK TERRORISM IS A
BIG PROBLEM ON THEIR HIERARCHY
OF CONCERNS.
OF CONCERNS. AND WHO IS TRYING TO COMMIT THIS
TERRORISM HERE?
TERRORISM HERE? MOST PEOPLE IN THE U.S.
SUSPECTED OF TERRORISM RIGHT NOW
ARE LINKED TO WHITE NATIONALISM.
FACTS.
FACTS. THAT’S THE TESTIMONY FROM DONALD
TRUMP’S HANDPICKED FBI DIRECTOR
WHO TESTIFIED UNDER OATH MOST
DOMESTIC TERRORISM ARRESTS THIS
YEAR INVOLVE WHITE SUPREMACY.
SO THE FEDS INCLUDING THE TRUMP
APPOINTED FEDS SAY THAT PROBLEM
WE HAVE WITH TERRORISM MOSTLY
INVOLVES WHITE NATIONALISTS.
SO THAT EXISTS.
FACTS.
FACTS. NOW, AS A MATTER OF FATALITIES
WHICH IS ALSO COUNTED IN THE
UNITED STATES, THE PROBLEM IS ON
PAR WITH FOREIGN TERRORISTS LIKE
ISIS, DOMESTIC IDEA LOGICAL
TERRORISTS KILL ABOUT AS MANY
AMERICANS AS THOSE SCARY FOREIGN
LINKED TERRORISTS.
LINKED TERRORISTS. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME RECEIPTS
FOR THE HOAX CROWD.
AND THAT IS BASED ON THE MOST
EXTREME EXAMPLES OF SUSPECTS AND
VIOLENCE.
VIOLENCE. IF YOU BROUGHT AN OUT TO INCLUDE
AND CONSIDER HATE SPEECH, OTHER
WHITE SUPREMACIST ACTIVITIES
SOME OF WHICH MIGHT BE
TECHNICALLY LEGAL LIKE THERE ARE
THINGS YOU CAN SAY WHICH ARE
HORRIFIC WHICH AREN’T A CRIME,
PILE THAT WILL TOGETHER AND HAVE
YOU, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT, A
PILE OF EVIDENCE ONLINE AND ON
YOUR LOCAL NEWS.
>> THE NOOSE HANGING FROM A
SMALL TREE IN FRONT OF A DORM AT
STANFORD.
STANFORD. >> A FAMILY IN AURORA WAKES UP
TO FIND ANTI-SEMITIC GRAFFITI
SPRAYED ON THEIR HOME.
>> ARMY VETERAN HAS BEEN CHARGED
WITH MURDER AS A HATE CRIME IN
THE STABBING DEATH OF A BLACK
MAN.
MAN. >> POLICE ARRESTED A WHITE
SUPREMACIST AFTER HE SAID HE
WANTED TO USE A GUN IN THE
SPIRIT OF DYLANN ROOF.
>> A MAN IS FACING THREE YEARS
IN FEDERAL PRISON FOR HIS ROLE
IN BURNING AND SPRAY PAINTING
NAZI SYMBOLS ON A CARMEL
SYNAGOGUE.
SYNAGOGUE. >> WHITE SUPREMACISTS.
>> WHITE SUPREMACY.
>> THIS IS AMERICA.
IF YOU FEEL LIKE SOME OF THE
HATE AND VIOLENCE IS RISING, IT
IS.
IS. DATA BACKING UP THE ANECDOTES
YOU JUST HEARD.
THE NUMBER OF DOCUMENTED HATE
GROUPS HAS JUMPED TO OVER 1,000.
THIS REAL PROBLEM WILL NOT BE
CONQUERED BY MINIMIZEING IT
AGAINST THE EVIDENCE NOR SOLVED
IT BY EXAGGERATING IT WITHOUT
EVIDENCE.
EVIDENCE. IN THE LAW HATE CRIME PROBES ARE
COMPLEX BECAUSE THEY CAN TAKE
LONGER TO INVESTIGATE MOTIVE AND
INTENT.
INTENT. AUTHORITIES CANNOT PROBE BY MERE
POLITICS.
POLITICS. SO THERE’S NO LOGIC IN RUSHING
TO LABEL JUST ANYTHING WHITE
SUPREMACY BEFORE GATHERING
FACTS.
FACTS. THERE IS NO LOGIC IN DENYING THE
FACTS WE HAVE AND JUST SHOUTING
HOAX.
HOAX. >> THIS IS A HOAX.
JUST LIKE THE RUSSIA HOAX.
>> THIS IS NOT A HOAX.
THIS IS AMERICA.
AND MANY AMERICANS HAVE BEEN
TELLING US THIS FOR A LONG,
PAINFUL TIME.
PAINFUL TIME. AMERICANS WHO LIVED THROUGH
SLAVERY AND THE AMENDED THAT
WERE ADDED TO THE CONSTITUTION
TO THWART, WHAT WAS IT, WHITE
SUPREMACY?
SUPREMACY? THIS IS AMERICA.
AMERICANS WHO FOUGHT JIM CROW
AND SEG GRAIATION.
THIS IS AMERICA, AMERICANS WHO
URGED US TO LOOK INWARD AT A
CULTURE THAT CAN CELEBRATE GUNS
MORE THAN HUMAN LIVES OR REVERE
GUNS IN WHITE HANDS MORE THAN
THE BODIES OF MURDERED
MINORITIES?
MINORITIES? THAT’S WHAT HE DONALD GLOVER
TOLD US SO SIMPLY AND SADLY AND
WE SHOULD REFLECT ON IT TONIGHT.
THIS IS AMERICA.
GUNS IN MY AREA I GOT THE STRAP.
I GOT TO CARRY THEM.
JOINING ME NOW IS MIA WYLIE,
FORMER COUNCIL TO THE MAYOR OF
NEW YORK AND OVERSAW THE CITY’S
POLICE OVERSIGHT AGENCY AND TOM
COLE MAN, REPUBLICAN FROM
MISSOURI.
MISSOURI. >> THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU, MAYA,
YOUR VIEW OF THIS?
>> WHAT TUCKER CARLSON DID WAS
ABSOLUTELY REPREHENSIBLE BECAUSE
IT IS, AS YOU POINTED OUT, NOT
TRUE AND BY NOT TRUE, I MEAN HE
JUST LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
TO HIS OWN AUDIENCE.
ALL THE FACTS FROM THE FBI TO
THE SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER
TO THE ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE
HAS BEEN DOCUMENTING THE
INCREASE OF HATE GROUPS AND
PARTICULARLY WHITE SUPREMACIST
GROUPS AS WELL AS HATE CRIMES.
TWO POINTS TO REFERENCE TO, IF
YOU LOOK AT THE TWO HIGHEST
MONTHS OF HATE CRIMES IS IN THE
HISTORY OF OUR TRACKING THE
CRIMES, NOVEMBER 2016 WAS OVER
700 HATE CRIMES THAT MONTH.
THAT WAS A RECORD.
THAT WAS THE ELECTION.
THE SECOND WAS AFTER
CHARLOTTESVILLE WHEN DONALD
TRUMP SAID YOU HAVE VERY FINE
PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES.
AND THE REASON I SAY THAT, IT IS
THE DENIAL OF THE EXISTENCE OF
HATE GROUPS AND THE HATE THEY
PROPAGATE THAT HELPS SUPPORT
INCREASE OF VIOLENCE.
THERE IS EVIDENCE, THERE IS
RESEARCH THAT HAS ACTUALLY
CORRELATED THAT KIND OF REFUSAL
TO DENUNSATE TO SAY NO, WE DON’T
DO THAT HERE, THAT IS NOT
TOLERATED WITH THE ACTUAL EVENTS
OF VIOLENCE WE SEE IN THIS
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. >> CONGRESSMAN, DO YOU WORRY AT
THIS POINT THAT THE BASIC FACTS
WE JUST LAID OUT, AMERICANS ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT TERRORISM, MOST
DOMESTIC TERRORISM SUSPECTS ARE
LINKED TO WHITE SUPREMACY IS,
THE SOURCES THERE ARE FEDERAL
DATA INCLUDING TRUMP’S FBI
DIRECTOR, IT HAS BECOME A PART
OF SOME POLITICAL PROJECT OF
SOME, NOT ALL BUT SOME OF THE
PRESIDENT’S DEFENDERS TO
MINIMIZE OR LIE ABOUT THOSE
FACTS?
FACTS? >> WELL, THERE’S CERTAINLY
EVIDENCE OF THAT, ARI.
A WHOLE HOST OF LEADERS FROM THE
CONGRESS GOT ON TV AFTER THESE
TERRIBLE EPISODES THAT WE JUST
SAW AND SAID IT WAS BECAUSE OF
VIDEO GAMES THAT VIDEO GAMES WAS
THE CAUSE OF ALL THIS.
SUCH NONSENSE LIKE THIS.
THE ENTIRE WORD HAS VIDEO GAMES.
THEY DON’T HAVE KILLINGS LIKE
THIS.
THIS. >> LET ME PRESS YOU ON THAT.
WE’VE COVERED THAT.
VIDEO GAMES IS WHAT ABOUTISM,
LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE.
WE’RE COVERING PEOPLE TRYING TO,
WITHIN A CERTAIN FRAME, GET
OTHER PEOPLE TO THINK, YEAH,
WHITE SUPREMACY, WHAT IS THAT
ABOUT?
ABOUT? MAYBE THAT’S NOT, QUOTE UNQUOTE,
NOT A BIG DEAL TO, QUOTE
UNQUOTE, A HOAX WHEN THE NUMBERS
SHOW IS THE OPPOSITE.
>> I THINK IT THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW WHAT
RACISM IS.
RACISM IS. THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT’S HAPPENING
HERE.
HERE. THIS IS A DEFINING MOMENT, NOT
ONLY IN THIS POLITICAL CAMPAIGN
BUT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. I BELIEVE THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS
DONE HIMSELF MUCH HARM
POLITICALLY.
POLITICALLY. I THINK YOU WILL SEE POLLS THAT
WILL COME BACK THAT THE VAST
MAJORITY OF AMERICANS SEE THIS
WHAT IT IS, THE MAN HAS NO
CREDIBILITY.
CREDIBILITY. HE SPEWS HATE.
HE DID IT WHEN HE CAME DOWN THE
ESCALATOR IN ’15 AND HE HASN’T
STOPPED SINCE.
STOPPED SINCE. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR A
RACIST, FOR SOMEBODY LIKE THIS.
MAYBE THEY DIDN’T KNOW WHAT HE
WAS LIKE BEFORE BUT THEY KNOW
NOW.
NOW. LET’S SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT.
WE HAVE GOT TO STAND STRONG.
WE’VE GOT SEVERAL ISSUES HERE.
WE’VE GOT GUNS.
>> PART OF WHAT IS PLAYING OUT,
RIGHT, MAYA, IS A MOVING OF SOME
OF THESE GOAL POSTS.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> SO THE EFFORT TO TRY TO TAKE
FOLKS AND CONFUSE THEM ABOUT
WHAT IT IS, WHICH IS VERY
EXTREME.
EXTREME. IF YOU’RE OUT HERE TRYING TO DO
ANY COVER FOR TERRORISM
SUSPECTS, I DON’T CARE WHAT
THEY’RE LIPPINGED TO, YOU’VE GOT
TO REALLY LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND
THEN I WANT TO PLAY FOR YOU WHAT
RUSH LIMBAUGH SAYS WHICH WHAT
EVERYONE THINKS OF THE SOURCE,
HE IS VOICING SOMETHING THAT IS
A DIFFERENT ARGUMENT THAT HEY,
THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE
REGISTERED IN THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY OR WHO ARE VOTING FOR THIS
OR THAT WHO AREN’T RACIST OR
WHATEVER AND WHETHER THIS PAINTS
TOO BROAD A BRUSH IN THE OTHER
DIRECTION.
DIRECTION. TAKE A LISTEN.
>> THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS
COUNTRY DO NOT BELIEVE DONALD
TRUMP OR YOU OR ME ARE WHITE
SUPREMACISTS.
SUPREMACISTS. THEY DON’T BELIEVE WE ARE IN
FAVOR OF WHITE NATIONALISM BUT
THE DRIVE BY MEDIA IS TRYING TO
ONCE AGAIN CONVINCE EVERYBODY
THAT EVERYBODY THINKS OF TRUMP
THAT WAY.
THAT WAY. THEY THEN ACT AND BABE AS THOUGH
EVERYBODY THINKS THIS AND THAT
YOU CONSERVATIVES AND TRUMP YOU
HAVE TO SHOW US THAT YOU ARE
NOT, WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE.
IT’S LIKE PROVING A NEGATIVE.
YOU CAN’T DO IT.
>> WELL, THAT’S NOT TRUE.
YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN PROVE YOU’RE
NOT RATIST.
NOT RATIST. USUALLY BY YOUR ACTIONS AND YOUR
WORDS.
WORDS. AND I THINK WHAT WE HAVE SEEN
FROM DONALD TRUMP AND
UNFORTUNATELY I THINK TO YOUR
POINT TO MR. COLEMAN, NOT NEW,
BUT PERFECTED IN A VERY
DANGEROUS WAY.
DANGEROUS WAY. I WOULD SAY PERFECTED IN THE
SENSE OF BEING VERY EXPLICIT AS
OPPOSED TO IMPLICIT IS THIS USE
OF BLACKS ARE CRIMINALS.
RIGHT?
RIGHT? OR LATINOS ARE INVADERS.
THIS IS VERY EXPLICIT LANGUAGE
THAT WHITE SUPREMACY USES.
>> OR MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS.
SO YOU’RE TAKING SOMETHING THAT
WAS REALLY LETHALLY POWERFUL IN
A CERTAIN IMMIGRATION FRAMEWORK
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT’S
BLOWING UP IN THEIR FACE.
>> THAT’S RIGHT.
HERE’S THE POINT.
WHEN YOU TRACK THE LANGUAGE OF
WHITE SUPREMACIST GROUPS, THEY
USE LANGUAGE LIKE INVASION FOR
IMMIGRANTS.
IMMIGRANTS. OF COLOR FROM CENTRAL AMERICA,
NOT ALL IMMIGRANTS, NOT -- THEY
DON’T USE INVASION FOR POLISH.
SO IT’S VERY RACIALIZED LANGUAGE
EVEN WHEN IT DOESN’T USE THE
TERMS OF RACE.
AND MY POINT ABOUT DONALD TRUMP
IS WHAT HE HAS DONE IS SAID, IT
IS NOW OKAY, I AM NOW GOING TO
USE LANGUAGE WE NEVER AS
REPUBLICANS THOUGHT WAS OKAY TO
USE IN THE PAST TO HAVE A POLICY
DEBATE IN RECENT PAST.
>> MAYA WILEY AND TOM COLE MAN,