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hey you want to talk about bringing the
heat
our brother from another karen phillips
did just that
on dead spin in the aftermath of the
attack on the capitol
how the election of a former basketball
player from hawaii
and the kneeling of a football player
led to trump's homegrown terrorist
setting america on fire
that's just the headline and i could
read the whole article to you
it's that good but just a couple of
paragraphs it was hard to pick out a
couple but here we go this was never
about hawaii
or the national anthem it was about
america losing its mind because two
black men as in president obama
and colin kaepernick were reaching a new
level of power in a social media age
that allowed them to connect with the
world
and then despite their best efforts
trump and his american terrorists
lost an election that they rigged
through voter suppression in their favor
it's not by coincidence that trump's
supporters he goes on the right
tend to carry confederate flags and i'm
not even talking about the hatred or
racism that comes along with that symbol
i'm focusing on a group of people that
are consumed with supporting losers
now karen phillips could just drop the
mic right now he could just
he could just show us his awesome outfit
because i mean what needs to be said but
uh the floor is yours brother
how are you processing it i'm processing
fine
um i've been this hasn't really
affected me mentally and but i
understand and as sympathetic and
empathetic to
everyone that is especially black folks
um and hispanics and mexicans and agents
and all the other people of color in
this country that have dealt with
similar things
since they've been here especially
native americans let's never forget them
but uh the reason this stuff doesn't
bother me
is that as i wrote that piece um
election night 2016 i cried i was
in the pits for about 48 to 72 hours
and the reason why is that i covered the
2016 democratic
national convention and i wrote
cognizable i was there
warning people like something was coming
i came back to the newsroom
on that friday because the convention
was monday through thursday telling
people that look i don't know what's
happening
i knew something was coming giving just
the even
the the fraction between the democratic
party between the bernie bros
and hillary's crew that were in wells
fargo arena in philadelphia for four
days
um so after the election in 2016
um i was all cried out my tolerance and
patience
was gone that day and as i wrote look
2017 in charlottesville was a junior
varsity game
what we saw last week was the varsity
game
and given these reports about these
planned
so-called rice that could be happening
at all 50 capitals
next week if that goes to the plane you
know
no no god for god hope you know we
friend that it doesn't
that's that's the nba finals right there
so the beliefs
and the symptoms have always been there
it's just about people
not wanting to believe and when i say
people i mean white people
because black people have been telling
y'all this is coming forever
and we are tired of being listened to
this is why we have had so much of a
hands-off approach to this because we're
like we did our part
we tried to tell you we won an election
for you all shout out to stacey abrams
and rafael warnock because i'm gonna get
my more house of spelman shout outs on
right now
but still like we delivered democracy
to this country and still look what
happened on top of us
being you know the paul reveres of
telling you
you know what was coming and how it was
coming and still we're not being
listened to so
writing that column last week um i'll
share with y'all it took me 45 minutes
at the most because it's just yeah we've
had it for four years
for four years like i've had the
receipts on fire
it was just about putting it together
and then loading it up and
and you know letting the editors let it
fly on the internet but yeah this was
this has been here like this isn't
anything new um
this is who america has been forever
yeah and okay and let's uh let's let's
reside right there
let's keep it there this is who america
has been
you say beautifully that these these
people
carrying these confederate flags they
just got this propensity to hang out
with losers
and not to mention their racism and
their hatred so let's let's put them
over here
and then the other people that you
mention who just don't want to accept
that you are what your record says you
are our record
says this is who we are and it the white
supremacist
uh the the the hard right
violent always threatening to do damage
to black people group so why is it why
are we here
like why don't people believe that that
is a part of
our story right now what do you think
that is what is that denial about
on with these both of these groups why
hang out with losers
why the denial well you give them too
much credit by saying
they don't believe it they do believe it
like they're not stupid
they understand what's going on they can
read they can google
just like anyone else it just hasn't
affected them enough for them to care
and that's what last wednesday was was
america on cable network it didn't
matter if you had streaming cable you
cut the cord or whatever
you couldn't escape it like you were
forced to watch it was the same thing
that happened
with this summer with george floyd and
everything the past
12 to 18 months has been white america
having to sit down and accept it and and
they can't hide from it
like the suburbs won't keep them away
their money
won't buy them and won't get them to the
front of the line when it comes to this
covet vaccine
they have to deal with everyone else is
dealing with it when you
finally can't run from something oh
listen
it shakes them to their core this is why
people are so shook right now
it's not because they didn't know this
stuff was always going wrong
is that when they went to their homes or
their churches or their schools they
could get away from it
and you know like i wrote the upper
negroes the good ones that they'd like
to be around
oh they were cool because you know we've
allowed them in our circle
and this doesn't happen to them because
i'm friends with the good ones
i hired the good ones my colleagues are
the good ones
and now you're being forced to see oh
oh snap they wasn't lying
or i can't i can't run to the bar
because they're close to drink this away
i can't go to the movies i can't shop
this away the malls are closed
now you're being forced to accept it and
deal with it and when you've been a race
of people that's never had to
face any of the consequences in the
history of this country
oh you got to face them all right now
and that's what this has been
or to bring cap back into it you can't
run to your sports and get away from it
nobody's sticking to sports anymore that
was a great escape for a long time but
i said i said this going into the
election that
you know 2016 that election of 2016
was a referendum and a reflection on who
we
are there was a reason why we
quote unquote elected donald trump but
2020
was a reflection on who we
chose to be so i'll just add
to what you just said karn like this
isn't
this isn't who america is passively this
isn't some condition that america has
been cursed with
and it's just like oh well we don't know
what to do about it no they are
this is what america actively chooses
to be and by that i'm talking about the
70 plus
million who not only voted for donald
trump but this
hot 60 70 whatever the percentage is who
think the election
was stolen you would best believe there
are a lot of people
who were at home a
watching that c siege of the capital
wishing they were there okay
and b who are watching it and saying
if i can invoke dr king for the for
purpose of this conversation
watching it and saying i agree with your
calls but not your methods
because there's still a big part of
america who still sympathize who
sympathize with those people and i said
it's just that karen
that is patriotism that's the scary part
they perverted patriotism when it came
to cap
and acted like he was being unpatriotic
by doing the most patriotic thing
possible piece of
peacefully protesting the the reason why
i fear that this won't be a progressive
moment for us karen and i'll pass to you
with this
like i was saying yesterday is that the
people who attacked the capital they
felt like they were fulfilling their
patriotic duty
there is a twisted perverted segment a
large segment of our population
who feels like that was the honorable
thing to do
but even still like i still think you're
giving people too much credit
because you said a very good word that
has been thrown around
since cap right which is this this
patriotism or patriot words right
um look patriotism to what we've always
understood it to be or defined to be in
america
has been what white people have told us
it was
and we tell stories and we read history
books the first patriots
were you know the first americans that
came over to this country
they talked about patriotism they talk
about the boston tea party y'all spent
time in boston right
the boston tea party was white people
mad at each other
throwing tea off a boat white people
versus white
people and the ones that who quote on
quote one were the patriots so whichever
side
the majority of white people feel are
the winners or agree with are dean
patriots
until 2016 when cap started kneeling and
that became
unpatriotic and the rule has always been
follow along
with the with the greater amount of
white american fearless patriotism and
that's how you become a patriot
and now like you said that definition
has blown up because
we see that never should have been the
definition of jump
and it does exist anymore and like you
said yeah there are 70 million people
who voted for donald trump still
the stat that i like to always throw out
is that 52
53 of white women voted for him in 2016.
55 of them voted for him this time
around
when in 2016 a white woman in hilliard
and you know hillary robin clinton who
by far if you look at the history
of candidates that have run for
president in this country
no one has been more qualified ever had
a better resume
more qualified to be president
and white women had their candidate and
they told her
nah we don't like your emails you wear
too many pants
suits we don't like the way that you
defer to your husband
or the power dynamics in your marriage
and that's how we got here
in the first place because if white
women would have got it right in 2016
last week does not happen
and and then the irony is what was the
chant
what was it what was the chant for
hillary you know lock her up
and she's supposedly crooked
and we got the most corrupt president
uh of the last two centuries i probably
now say last two senate i can't say ever
because
you know i can't speak to the 1800s i'm
sure some shade
uh was going on in but i say the 20th
and 21st centuries
uh we got some mess going on so let me
ask you
if you agree with tia that's right
hey i don't know if you heard tia
mitchell from the atlanta journal
constitution who was on with us earlier
she had a great comment when i said is
there more meat on this bone
with we find out a little bit more
information about the capital what was
going on what was going on
and she said i think we'll be interested
to find out
who the people were there for example we
already know there are a couple
lawmakers there were there more
there's some police officers there there
are some people
of in polite society who were there
when you if you find out that there was
like a
i'm just throwing it out i'm trying to
figure out what level would shock you
what would you be shocked by would it be
executive of a major company would it be
fortune 500 like what
what would you have to hear for you to
say oh i didn't see that one coming
well first of all shout out to tia
that's my homie from way back and i saw
her on here and i'm happy that you guys
you know
called her um and her telling that story
about lisa blunt rochester
um because i had meeting meetings with
lisa when i was on editorial board back
in delaware
um and was there and covering her whole
rise when she won
that seat down there but to answer your
question
zero percent like nothing's going to
shock me
i let go of shock value a long long time
ago
um there's been some conspiracy or
thought
or or theory playing around on twitter
and social media for the last couple
days
i don't know if these are just
allegations or the twitter streets
talking or there's something to it
about clarence thompson's wife financing
some buses to bring some people to dc
um you could tell me
all type of of uh political figures
um law enforcement heads you could tell
me members from the pentacon was out
there and i wouldn't be surprised
because it's the reason why
we were watching and everyone was like
we're the police why aren't they doing
anything
like how are they just letting these
people go by and then if you got on
twitter or instagram you saw
officers opening the gates and it was
the police can't police these people
when the police are part
of these people and in this crowd and
that is going to be
the surprising thing as steve was
reporting about
is that people are going to be shocked
to see
how deep seated this goes now i don't
think we'll ever find out
all the people who yeah finances the
conspiracy
who put together the framework the
blueprint and all of this we're
never going to find that out who gave
him the intel the information
you know exactly help help plan it help
plot it yeah
like yeah we're never it's like any
other thing like we do in sports
spy game bounty bountygate it doesn't
matter what videotapes or audio tapes
come out
we're still not going to see how far
this goes and we're still not going to
see many of those people
um you know face the consequences that
they should like to get the sports
analysis y'all know
red williams we got audio brad williams
we heard him giving the saints the
command
he just got fired because he got another
job
yeah but that'll happen to a black man
but yet you know we got the houston
texas
finally bringing the enemy in for a head
coaching
uh interview so that's america from
football
to politics and they're all they've
always been married
at the hit because you know football is
the only game really
outside of baseball that's just truly
american like we're the only sport that
plays it
it started in college and it went to the
nfl it is solely an american game so
when
when when bill belichick is getting
honored for these things and he's
telling you know trump no
and these football players and captain
how all these things are married
together
it makes so much sense when you think
about it
what gerald ford used to play football
and he's the president so
all the people who always say stick to
sports and this stuff isn't married
together
it's like no it's always happened you
just chose not to believe it or you
chose not to will for ignorance
yeah exactly exactly or just want to
embrace the status quo
hey man uh appreciate you coming through
usually we remark
about your outfit which is sharp as
always but if we could take your full
screen real quick before we let you go
the best thing about your shot today is
the love jones poster
over your right
you know i had to yeah you know maybe
later you know have me down there
that's the closing that's always been
the closure
dm still open bro yeah
yeah you know it's they like the doors
of the church let's stay over here
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hey you know what karin i did comment on
your outfit because i put it in my feed
i said car and flex
i ain't know what you're gonna have on i
knew it was gonna be something tight so
i'll just put it in there
look at you you know hey you know
gotta keep it going getting the pandemic
gotta get these outfits off i ain't
going nowhere else so
got it for y'all all right it's good to
see you been tomorrow we'll see you
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