QUESTION TO ANSWER.
BACK TO YOU.
CONNELL: DEIRDRE BOLTON IN
SINGAPORE.
NOW THIS --
>> IT IS WORRISOME, VERY
WORRISOME THAT THIS JOINT
STATEMENT IS SO IMPRECISE.
WHAT THE UNITED STATES HAS
GAINED IS VAGUE AND
UNVERIFIABLE AT BEST.
WHAT NORTH KOREA HAS GAINED IS
TANGIBLE AND LASTING.
>> I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH
YOU, THIS IS THE WEAKEST
STATEMENT I HAVE EVER SEEN COME
OUT OF ANY ENGAGEMENT WITH
NORTH KOREA.
MELISSA: DEMOCRATS SLAMMING THE
PRESIDENT'S HISTORIC AGREEMENT.
HERE IS HARRY KAZIANIS AND
REBECCA HEINRICHS, SENIOR
INSTITUTE FELLOW.
REBECCA, WHAT DID YOU THINK OF
THE ASSESSMENT THERE.
WHAT NORTH KOREA GAINS IS
LASTING, THAT'S GOT THE BETTER
OF US THOUGH WE GOT THE
HOSTAGES BACK, WE'RE MOVING
TOWARDS DENUCLEARIZATION.
I DON'T KNOW, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE?
>> IN THE CASE OF SENATOR
SCHUMER, YOU KNOW SENATOR
SCHUMER WAS OPPOSED TO THE IRAN
DEAL DURING THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION AND CAME BACK
AROUND AND SUPPORTED THE IRAN
DEAL WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP
WANTED TO WITHDRAW FROM THE
IRAN DEAL.
A LOT OF THE FOLKS YOU HAVE TO
DISREGARD WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
I WILL SAY I AM STILL NEUTRAL
ON THE OUTCOME OF THE SUMMIT
BECAUSE THIS DOCUMENT THAT CAME
OUT WAS VERY VAGUE, IT ONLY
SAYS THAT THE NORTH KOREANS ARE
WORKING TOWARDS
DENUCLEARIZATION OF THE KOREAN
PENINSULA, DOESN'T SAY WHAT
THEY THINK THAT MEANS, AND SO
YOU KNOW I'M NEUTRAL.
I THINK CONDEMNATION IS TOO
EARLY, I THINK PRAISE AND
VICTORY LAPS ARE TOO EARLY.
SEE WHAT COMES OUT IN THE NEXT
FEW WEEKS, MID-JULY.
WE WANT TO SEE IF THE NORTH
KOREANS CAN SHOW US WHAT
THEY'VE GOT AND GET INSPECTORS
IN THERE TO START DISMANTLING
THE PROGRAM.
MELISSA: HARRY, YOU WERE
CORRECT IT WAS GOING TO FALL
APART, FRIDAY AFTERNOON THIS
THING IS GOING TO FALL APART.
IT HAPPENED ON THURSDAY.
HERE'S WHAT YOU SAID THEN.
>> JUST READING ALL THE TEA
LEAVES HERE.
IT'S CLEAR MELISSA.
THE SUMMIT IS DEAD.
MELISSA: REALLY?
>> YEAH, IT'S TOAST TO BE
HONEST WITH YOU.
MELISSA: HARRY REAL QUICK,
PREDICTION.
>> TESTING MISSILES WITHIN 30
DAYS.
MELISSA: ALL RIGHT.
YOU ARE A VERY GOOD SPORT FOR
COMING BACK ON WITH US.
WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENS FROM
HERE?
LIKE I SAID IT'S LIKE 50-50.
YOU CALLED IT THE FIRST TIME,
SECOND TIME IT CAME TOGETHER,
YOU CAN'T BE RIGHT ALL THE
TIME.
>> IT'S TRUE, IT'S TRUE.
LOOK, HONESTLY, I WISH HE
CANCELED AGAIN.
CHALLENGE HERE IS THIS.
WE STILL DON'T KNOW IF KIM
JONG-UN IS WILLING TO GIVE UP
HIS NUCLEAR WEAPONS OR NOT.
I THINK HISTORY TELLS US WE'VE
BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE.
IF YOU COMPARE THE JOINT
STATEMENT THAT WE SIGNED
YESTERDAY TO THE 1994 STATEMENT
THAT THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION
SIGNED, JOINT STATEMENTS IN THE
SIX-PARTY TALK.
THEY ARE VERY, VERY SIMILAR.
I GIVE PRESIDENT TRUMP ALL THE
CREDIT IN THE WORLD FOR TRYING
TO DO THIS.
HE'S GIVING OPPONENTS ON THE
LEFT AMMUNITION.
I GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR THAT.
I THINK WITHIN THE NEXT 30
DAYS, WE NEED TO GO TO THE
NORTH KOREANS AND SAY LOOK, YOU
HAVE 30 DAYS TO PUT UP NUCLEAR
WEAPONS AND THE PLAN TO
DENUCLEARIZE OR NOT.
IF THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO
DENUCLEARIZE, IT'S MAX PRESSURE
2.0 AND APPLY THE SANCTIONS ON
STEROIDS.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY.
MELISSA: WHAT'S DIFFERENT NOW
BECAUSE HARRY SAID WHAT'S
DIFFERENT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN
WHEN HE MENTIONED THE CLINTONS
AT THAT POINT.
PRESIDENT CLINTON HANDED OVER A
GIANT MOUNTAIN OF CASH WHICH IS
SOMETHING PRESIDENT TRUMP DID
NOT DO, HAS NOT DONE, HASN'T
LIGHTENED UP ON THE SANCTIONS,
ANOTHER SET OF SANCTIONS ON HIS
DESK READY TO GO.
ONE OF THE OTHER DIFFERENCES,
GENERAL JACK KEANE SAYS, IT'S
CLEAR IN THE PAST WHEN THE KIM
REGIME LIED ABOUT WHAT THEY
WERE DOING AND LIKE WHAT THE
CLINTONS, THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY
NO CONSEQUENCES AND THIS TIME
AROUND THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN
CONSEQUENCES FROM THE START
WITH THE SANCTIONS AND VERY
CLEAR THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL
DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
DO YOU AGREE WITH GENERAL JACK
KEANE THAT THIS TIME IS
DIFFERENT?
>> I THINK IT'S DIFFERENT.
CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING HERE.
PEOPLE SAY, REBECCA, YOU WERE
SO HARD ON THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION.
IF PRESIDENT OBAMA HAD DONE
THIS, YOU WOULD BE UPSET.
I SAID HERE'S THE DIFFERENCE.
PRESIDENT OBAMA HAD SECRETARY
OF STATE KERRY AND HE HAD BEN
RHODES AND SUZANNE RICE AS
ADVISERS AND PRESIDENT TRUMP
HAS AMBASSADOR BOLTON AND MIKE
POMPEO IN THERE.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE HERE.
PRESIDENT TRUMP KEPT SANCTIONS
IN PLACE.
SAID HE WE HAVE 300 SANCTIONS
READY TO GO IF THE NORTH
KOREANS GET ON OTHER DIRECTION.
WE HAVE PUT A PAUSE ON MILITARY
EXERCISES, I FIND THAT
REGRETTABLE EXCEPT THAT'S THE
EASIEST THING WE CAN BRING BACK
IF THEY START TO GO THE OTHER
WAY.
THERE'S A LOT OF STRONG BACKING
STILL IN PLACE AND AS LONG AS
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS WILLING TO
ACTUALLY KEEP THAT CREDIBLE AND
KEEP THAT THERE, THERE'S A LOT
THAT'S DIFFERENT HERE THAN THE
PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.
MELISSA: AND HARRY, BACK TO THE
SUBJECT AT HAND WHERE WE
STARTED WITH THE DEMOCRATS
CONDEMNING THIS.
HARD TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO
EXPECT MORE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP
AND HOLD HIM TO A HIGHER
STANDARD THAN THEY DID
THEMSELVES WITH TALKING ABOUT
IRAN AND LETTING IRAN COLLECT
ITS OWN SAMPLES.
NO U.S. INSPECTORS THERE.
OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT SOMETHING
THAT THE PRESIDENT IN THIS CASE
WOULD ACCEPT.
YOU KNOW, AND DEMOCRATS ARE
CLAMORING MORE THAN THEY
DEMANDED IN THE CASE OF IRAN,
AND IT FEELS HYPOCRITICAL?
>> YEAH, THE DEMOCRATS ARE
PLAYING POLITICS.
ANYTHING TRUMP DOES IS BAD,
THAT'S CLEAR.
I THINK THAT'S OBVIOUS.
BUT, LOOK, I THINK WHERE WE
NEED TO GO HERE, WE'RE AT A
FORK IN THE ROAD WHEN IT COMES
TO NORTH KOREA.
WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION WHAT
WE WANT TO DO.
WE DON'T WANT TO WASTE ANY MORE
TIME.
MELISSA: WHAT WE WANT TO DO?
WHAT IS UNCLEAR WHAT IS GOING
ON,ARY?
WHO NEEDS TO MAKE A DECISION.
IT'S TRANSPARENT WHAT THE
PRESIDENT AND THE COUNTRY WANTS
TO DO.
>> THEN LET'S DO IT.
MELISSA: WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT
WAS?
>> GIFT NORTH KOREANS AN
ULTIMATUM.
IF THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO GIVE
UP NUCLEAR WEAPONS, MOVE ON.
MELISSA: THAT'S WHAT THEY
SIGNED.
>> WE CAN KEEP TALKING UNTIL
WE'RE BLUE IN THE FACE, BUT
IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
>> WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AT THIS
POINT, WE NEED A TIMELINE ON
THIS THAT WE GET INSPECTORS
INTO NORTH KOREA TO SEE WHAT
THEY HAVE.
HERE'S THE OTHER THING, IF THEY
STOP TESTING, THAT'S A BIG WIN,