JOINING US NOW IS THE CODE LEAD CANDIDATE FOR RENEWED EUROPE
GROUP. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS AT STAKE FOR THESE ELECTIONS?
THE FUTURE OF EUROPE. THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION
SINCE 1979 AND GO WITH THE SCALE OF CHALLENGES WE ARE FACING.
THEY ARE THE SAME OF THOSE THAT WERE FACED AND WE INVENTED
EUROPE. THE WAR ON THE CONTINENT, IN THE
MIDDLE EAST, WE ARE FACED BY AGGRESSIVE BUYERS LIKE CHINA.
WE NEED A DEEP REFORM AND A SHIFT IN EUROPEAN POLICY SO ALL
THESE ISSUES ARE AT STAKE IN THIS EUROPEAN ELECTION.
FRANCINE: THERE'S A LOT OF FOCUS ABOUT THE VOTE AND THE SHARE OF
VOTE FOR THE FAR RIGHT. ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT A SHIFT
RIGHT WORD FOR EUROPE AND WILL THAT TRANSLATE INTO DOMESTIC
POLICIES? I'M NOT WORRIED BECAUSE I
DON'T DO POLITICS, AND DETERMINED TO FIGHT AGAINST THE
EXTREME RIGHT, THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY PROJECT FOR EUROPE BUT
DESTROYING EUROPE. THEY WANT TO WE CAN EUROPE AND
IT'S CLEAR TO WE CAN EUROPE FROM INSIDE IS A BAD MOVE SO WE MUST
FIGHT AGAINST, THEY ARE SCARED TO TALK ABOUT -- THEY DON'T TALK
ABOUT EXITING ANYMORE BUT THEIR PROJECT IS CONCEIVED TO BLOCK
THE EUROPEAN UNION. EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE
NEED. WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN THE
EUROPEAN POWER AND SOVEREIGNTY SO IT IS CLEAR IT'S NOT JUST
GOING TO BE A HARD FIGHT AGAINST THEM.
THEY ARE VERY DIVIDED AMONGST THEMSELVES.
THEY CANNOT AGREE ON ANYTHING BECAUSE EACH OF THEM SAY ITALY
FIRST, FRANCE FIRST, SPAIN FIRST.
IF YOU SAY EACH FIRST, EUROPE CANNOT -- IS LAST.
MADISON: IN FRANCE THAT -- FRANCINE: IN FRANCE THE NATIONAL
RALLY IS EXPECTED, FIRST IN A BIG WAY.
WHAT IS THAT MEAN FOR THE MACRON GOVERNMENT?
THEY ARE ALWAYS HIGH IN THE OPINION POLLS AND LOW IN THE
REAL POLLS. SO NOW WE ARE FOCUSING ON
FURTHER EUROPEAN EISEN THIS CAMPAIGN.
IT STILL FOCUSED TOO MUCH ON DOMESTIC ISSUES WHERE AS WE HAVE
TO DECIDE UP FUTURE OF EUROPE, GLOBE SPEND WANTS TO MAKE US
FORGET, WE HAVE 10 DAYS TO PUT AT THE CENTER OF THE DEBATE THE
REAL EUROPEAN ISSUES AND WHAT WERE SEEING IN THE EVENING ON
THE NINTH OF JUNE. WHAT THE REPORTS ARE AND WHERE
THE BALANCES OF POWER ARE. FRANCINE: HOW CAN THE EU ADDRESS
ITS DEFENSE CHALLENGE? DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE SOME
JOINT DEBT? WE PROPOSE A 100 BILLION EURO
TO DEVELOP THE DEFENSE INDUSTRY AND WE WANT TO FIND THIS PLAN --
FUND THIS PLAN WITH EUROBOND. THIS IS A STRONG PROPOSAL BY THE
RENEW EUROPE COMMISSION AND WE THINK THIS MUST BE THE HIGH
PRIORITY IN THE NEW TERM AND WE THINK THE SUCCESS IN THE
FUNCTIONING OF THE NEXT GENERATION OF THE EUROPEAN
ECONOMIC PLAN, WE MUST GO ALONG THAT WAY.
FRANCINE: IS EUROPE TAKING THE RIGHT APPROACH TO CHINA?
I THINK WE HAVE STARTED IN THE LAST TERM TO TAKE THE RIGHT
APPROACH. CHINA HAS BEEN VERY AGGRESSIVE,
THEY VIOLATE THE WTO RULES. THEY HAVE MADE SOME PRODUCTIVE
INVESTMENT IN EUROPE. WE WALK AROUND THE PRINCIPLE OF
RECIPROCITY, WE START TO SCREEN THE INVESTMENT FROM CHINA, ALSO
TO RESPOND TO AN UNFAIR SOREN SUBSIDIES FOR CHINESE COMPANIES.
I THINK OF COURSE CHINA IS A BIG REALITY, BUT WE MUST GIVE OUR
SELF THE MEANS TO COME BACK TO A FAIR TRADE.
WE ARE IN FAVOR OF FREE TRADE BUT WE WANT ALSO WHAT'S
RESPECTED BY THE TWO PARTIES AND THE CHINESE ARE NOT RESPECTING
ANY OF THIS. TALK TO ME ABOUT HOW YOU SEE
THE GREEN TRANSITION, HOW YOU IF YOU THINK THE EU SHOULD PICK UP
SPENDING FOR THE TRANSITION. WE MAY SEE SOME SPENDING LIKE
THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT IN THE U.S..
I THINK THE GREEN TRANSITION IS FUNDAMENTAL OF A SOCIETAL
CHOICE. THERE'S NO TIME FOR GREEN
FATIGUE. WE HAVE ELABORATED THE STRATEGIC
POLICY AND FRAMEWORK. NOW AS WE ARE POINTING OUT WE
HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE RESOURCES. ALREADY ONE THIRD OF THE
RECOVERY PLAN IS DEVOTED TO THE GREEN TRANSITION.
WE HAVE TO CONTINUE ALSO NEW RESOURCES FOR THE EUROPEAN UNION
LIKE WE HAVE DONE WITH MECHANISMS OF THE EXTERNAL
BORDERS OR WITH REFORM OF THOSE SCHEMES.
WE ALSO UP TO GO BEYOND THE 1% DOGMA.
IT STILL ONLY 1%, OF THE GLOBAL EUROPEAN WEALTH.
IT'S BEEN CONCEIVED IN 1988. BEFORE THE FALL OF THE BERLIN
WALL WE HAVE TO FUNDAMENTALLY REFORM THE EUROPEAN BUDGET FOR