to stay a giant.
Do you want to still be the quarterback of the giant?
Yeah, I mean I think
like I said we'll
cross that bridge when we get there I've really enjoyed
playing here.
You know I
appreciate all the get those guys in the locker room to
special group of guys and I've really enjoyed being a part of
it.
We'll figure out where that goes, but
nothing but love and respect for this organization and
the group of guys in Locker room.
Already five years in, is the Giants. Could know for years
for years? I can't know, they didn't know. It's only four
years, it's not five. That's the problem. They didn't pick
up the 5th year option. It will be your 5 if he stays with
the team.
He he's in a good spot. He's in a good spot. They made that
assessment last year to not pick up the option. They they
took their time right up until the deadline and I still think
they were betting on the fact that Jones wasn't going to be
great that they were more. Comfortable taking that bet
than committing
to one year in 2023. A fully guaranteed, 50 or option which
would have been I think somewhere on 25 million, 25 to
30 million. Something like that, which will look like
a bargain.
I think in comparison to the contract he gets, whether it's
from the Giants or someone else Chris, but that's the reality
right now. Jones had a contract year and he made the most of it
and that makes him
plenty of money from the Giants or from someone else. Yes,
the Giants. He's gonna be the Giants quarterback. There's no
No way. He's getting out of New York.
He's Brian De ball, loves them. You could see that
the organization as we've discussed that they've wanted to work.
I think they did the right thing by not, you know, committing
with the fifth year option.
And as we've talked about before,
you know, he's finally established himself here, he's
in a spot with great support, that wants him in likes him and
he seems to like them to where it's not easy,
you know, just to go somewhere else and say, oh, okay. And
I think the We'll pay him. Yeah. Handsomely with with in
protecting themselves but this is one where
I mean it just I don't want to say guarantee but I just would
be shocked if Daniel Jones is not back as the starting
quarterback in the
New York Giants.
I'd be shocked if we don't hear
a contract being done
and finished here sometime within the next month,
you know, if you're the Giants, you knew he was the starting
quarterback for your 2023 football team,
you know, a month ago. No more than a month ago, with the way
he played with the surrounding cast and everything there. So
I think we're in it with Daniel Jones for the next few years.
And as a Giants fans, I'm very happy about that.
And the Giants hold exclusive negotiating rights until free
agency opens. But again, once we get to the scouting, combine
just a couple of weeks after the Super Bowl, it's open
season. And he'll know other teams are interested in. Don't
know which ones and they may already begin to have an idea
in the event. He doesn't stay with the Giants. Here's Joe
Shane. Who did a great job? In his first year as the general
manager of the New York Giants on the question of whether or
not, his team will be resigning, Daniel Jones,
we'd like to and it'll be here again. He he said it yesterday,
there's a business side to it, but
we feel like Daniel played. Well this season. He's done
everything that we asked him to do. And, you know, again,
there's a business side to it. We haven't went down that road
yet,
you know, we still got to have our meetings with our staff
late in the week, and we'll devise an offseason plan, but
we haven't had those meetings yet. But we, I'd like to have
Daniel Jones back. When did you make the decision? Both of you
guys,
this guys are guy to move forward with.
Yeah, I don't know if there was necessarily A aha moment or
anything like that. We just continue to evaluate him
throughout the season and you know what, the coaches were
asking to do and you know, he was executing the game plans
and Dave's not communicate on a,
on a daily basis,
you know, not just Dave's and I but the offense of staff and
what they're asking me to do. And he continued to prove out
throughout the season, so I don't know the exact date or
time when we're like Dan. He was our guy but we're pleased
with how we played this season.
If they have to use the franchise tag, its projected to
be in the neighborhood of thirty two million dollars,
that would give them the right to match an offer sheet. And if
they don't match, they'd get two first round picks, Daniel
Jones isn't in the category that someone is going to give
up first
two first, round picks. I do? I do I think, no, I have to worry
about that, right? They apply the franchise tag. He'll be
with the Giants next year at 31 point, 7 million unless they
extend the contract member that window. Every year July 15.
That is the point at which you
Cannot sign a franchise tag player to a multi-year deal. So
I I tend to think that they will get something where
I doubt something that is fair to both sides and something that
that pays. And here's the,
here's the thing, we always need to remember,
the salary cap keeps going up and up and up and up. So we get
caught up in the numbers. Oh, that guy's making 25 million
dollars for one year of football. Whoa. Yeah but
the salary cap is going to be 220 million or more
this year, the owners for every dollar of the players are
getting the owners are getting a dollar as well. There's money
everywhere, we focus on the specific.
Salaries being played to specific, paid to specific players, but
yes, the business is booming as a wise, man once said,
so everybody is making money
and more and more of it. So, Daniel Jones, Chris, I'm with you.
I think he's going to get signed and it's probably going
to be a contracted with it. People are gonna be like, whoa,
Hey, Daniel Charles agreed, can you loan me some money? Yeah,
I think it is probably gonna eat, you know, be eye-popping
a little bit. But like you said, it's just the current rate
and we gotta get it adjusted to that.
And I could see a four-year deal
with some big guarantees that
they know, they can get out of after two years of the kind of
went the wrong way and they wouldn't have a huge, you know,
cap hit, I've other eye
that's kind of how I would imagine it.
So we'll see where it goes. But yeah, I clear other to me
the play with the Giants. Is I think going to be Daniel Jones,
get the long-term
long-term deal done. We both know we like each other. And
and again this is day ball from New England and buffalo before
that, I think he wants to frame his team around his
quarterback. Like we've talked about a lot before and then
they're going to franchise Sake, One Berkeley
and work on that deal. That would be how I think it's going
to shake out. We'll see where it goes, but I think
the Barclays deal is the one that's actually going to be harder to
figure out and deal with because it's a running back.
It is only a year removed from an ACL injury. Yes, he was
awesome this year, but damn, we're getting to year 5 and as
we all know,
that's when it's can be dicey for running backs and thing,
can start go the wrong. The wrong direction.
The other reality to
I completely lost my train of damn. Look at you dude. It's
all right. It's time I do it. I just got really lost it.
Well, I'm directing traffic. I'm directing traffic for
things that I plan to right after the show. And
I completely lost my train of thought. Anyway. Yeah, anyway,
Daniel Jones will get paid. Oh, I know what I was going to say.
I know if I talked long enough, it will come back to me
contracts in the NFL anyway, long-term veteran contracts,
right?
Are two or three or propositions at here is, that's
why? The DeShaun Watson deal was such an outlier to commit
for five years, where the team can't get out of it.
What? Because that's always one of the first things I look at
when it's time to assess a contract, how many years until
the team can walk? Is it after one? Is it after two,
is it after three,
most of them
at the latest, it's after 3:00. And like you said that
the structure, we're getting toward that time of the year,
the structure is so critical.
ESPN dust it off through it.
Different personality.
The
notion that Lamar Jackson was off at 133, million fully
guaranteed by the Ravens and rejected it.
And it had been long enough.
Ryan Clark's the one that mentioned it earlier
or recently Chris Mortensen on the first day of the regular
season since the same damn thing. Everybody acted? Like it
was news because because we, I guess we all are unable to
Google or search
like shouldn't shouldn't people who cover football have ramp.
Oh yeah. I remember hearing something about Lamar Jackson
turning down an offer. They were details out there about
them. Let me just look them up and see what they were all.
Look at that. It's the same. Damn number. Why is this news?
Why is this news mean?
I don't know if I don't know, what wires are getting crossed
with an ESPN, where they got one of their people breaking
news. That was broken for months ago, 133 million fully
guaranteed. Lamar Jackson walked away from
it. But you know what? At the end of the day, Chris had to
tell us Jack diddly, squat. I really about the value of
the deal, right? It doesn't
because here One thing, here's one thing, it doesn't tell us.
There's there's one key element out there and then we'll take
a break. I think we had take a break, but I want people to
understand how this works. Fully guaranteed at signing is
critical
very critical because that's the only guarantee app. And
actually, the signing bonus is the most important aspect of
that. Because once you have that money,
good luck. Having them turn off the faucet.
So
beyond signing, bonus, everything the moment. You put
your name, on the paper, whatever you are fully
guaranteed to get, that's the most important metric but
There's another one.
And that is how much of the future guarantees, the injury
guarantees, how much of those become fully guaranteed after
one year, March of the following year
because they aren't going to cut you
after March of the following year
if they fully guaranteed 133 million dollars right. Out of
the gates that, right? That is the most important factor that
we don't know about, because it hasn't been leaked
because my senses whoever's leaking it to make the Ravens
look bad. And Lamar Jackson, look good is Literally leaving
that out because if you knew
what would have vested the next march
and been practically guaranteed, that's what they
call it. The Practical guarantee as X
then all of a sudden, the deal looks better. Yeah, right. Some
looks like something. Maybe. Right. Amar Jackson should have
taken right? Maybe he shouldn't have turned up his nose at it
and said, I want five years fully guaranteed.
That's the gamble. He's taken. That's the bet he made on
himself and I thought it was so funny. Chris, I'm sorry to
Pivot over this because it's relevant because he's another
guy. Why?
Yeah, it's available.
Daniel Jones is available. A lot of quarterbacks going to be
available after three weeks of the regular season. Everybody
said, hey, Lamar Jackson bet on himself and it paid off its
like know folks, the bat doesn't pay off until after
the 2024 season, if he's doing
the Kirk Cousins BET, right? You after three games,
the regular season, the Ravens Ark has a boy. We screwed that up.
Here's your DeShaun Watson contract, there's no reason to.
So anyway, anyway, bottom line is two years or three years is
what you're looking at.
That on any of these long-term deals unless you can get
yourself a DeShaun Watson contract and I doubt that
anybody else will. So if Daniel Jones gets a big deal
and the John's can get after two years,
that's not all that unusual, right? As it relates to other
contracts. So and you got to keep look, it's like any other
sport you got to keep performing.
Are you going to be gone?
Yeah, that's what makes it stared. Also track the give
that money to somebody else who does it. That's right. You know
that's why
I don't know if I'll ever be in favor of like total guarantees
in The contract because I think it's what keeps us this board.
Great
at the end of the year for teams that maybe have nothing
to play for their you know, the Pirates are playing for
something so
it's a fine line. And of course I want to see players get all
their money they can. But I do think it's an advantage that
the NFL has over some of the other sports and our country.
And with the way it's set up there
that keeps people motivated.
It is it's a year to year business,
the really awesome pyres. It's a, you know,
every two to three-year business
but The League is on one-year contracts, just trying to
survive basically, and I'll just Superstars are
on what Mike is saying, two or three-year contracts,
and after that, yeah, it's okay. Fight for your life for
the next one. And you're right. The language of the contract is
so important.
And as you said, right, how many times have we looked at
a guarantee and then gone? Yeah. But the next year, they got
another chunk where they have to guarantee it like when
the fifth day the league year,
so they're not going to cut the guy after 1 year 100.
Million dollars,
that would be the dumbest thing ever. So, that is practically
guaranteed
structure, the contract, very important and that's where
the agent is, very handy in that department.
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