>> Cenk appeared on Cuomo Prime Time again to debate a conservative, Mcenany, who's Trump
campaign secretary?
I don't know what her title is.
What does she do on the campaign again?
>> I think she's spokesperson for Trump's Presidential campaign.
>> Okay.
>> Which is perpetual.
>> She's.
Exactly, so she's gonna debate Cenk and let's take a look at what they're debating.
>> Why doesn't he own that he gave an indication of something that shouldn't be done?
>> Well, number one I would say the President said I would likely both go to the FBI and
listen to the information.
>> I know, but you can't do both.
You can't do the wrong thing and the right thing.
>> The ultimate point is no one cares about the Steele dossier a foreign spy paid by the
Clinton campaigner, >> That is exactly right, he was paid by the
campaign.
>> Once he receives that information he's already broken the law.
It's like saying, well, I would rob the bank, then I would go to the police and told them
I robbed the bank.
Well, they can still go to jail.
>> Did you at all care about the Russian misinformation from a Russian Kremlin official paid for by
the DNC or you just not care because it's the DNC?
>> So you know what you guys love to do is deflection?
>> Right, you don't care, I don't think so.
>> You're attacking people, no, no hold on, hold on.
You're attacking people that are not in government right now.
And you're going after Steele and Hillary Clinton who are not in power.
>> So they're not in government so they can buy this misinformation.
>> Look at what she's trying to do, is shift the debate.
We're talking about how the President of the United States said that you shouldn't work
with the FBI and she's going squirrel.
>> Providing a relevant analogy that you can't answer for.
>> No we're not gonna look somewhere else, we're looking at the President and his law
breaking.
>> So can I just jump in really quickly, because what we're hearing from the Trump campaign
about the Stelle dossier, which by the way, they're misleading the public about that,
but it doesn't matter, right?
Even if they're misleading the public, no one in the media debunks that, it drives me
nuts.
>> Never.
>> Never happens, I was listening to I think it was CNN on my drive into work, and you
have a Trump supporter debating a non-Trump supporter.
And they regurgitate that same talking point, and the host never debunks it.
Why?
>> They also, they never debunked the fact that was originally Republican opposition
research.
We still don't know from whom had to be Cruz because Jeb would have come out by now.
And they also don't talk about the fact that not one line of the Steele dossier has yet
been disproven.
But it takes us 20 minutes to disprove a lie and they've to;d 20 more in the meantime.
>> Right.
>> So that goes to the point I wanted to make.
First of all, Cuomo did correct her on several occasions.
He said, look receiving stolen information from a foreign government is illegal even
if it isn't stolen, receiving anything of value is illegal.
Paying someone else that happens to live outside the country for a service if you're in a Presidential
campaign is not illegal.
And so she's doing apples and oranges to distract you on purpose.
But look at what's even happening here.
Remember on television you have for this segments about five minutes at most.
So what she wants to do is make sure that three of those minutes is taking up, talking
about an irrelevant Steele dossier instead of the fact the President of the United States
went on national TV- >> And said, I would never tell the FBI anything.
And basically admitting he's been a life-long criminal, and saying, yeah, well of course
I would take the information and receive it, and use it.
And so, well that means you would've committed an illegal act.
>> Yeah.
>> She doesn't want you to focus on that, that's why she's doing the squirrel trick
with the dossier.
>> John Deen has five minutes with me as a congressman.
I'm gonna use four of those minutes to say how awful John Deen is and that's what Fox
News and AM radio's gonna carry.
And then he'll have five seconds to respond to what I just said in my fillibuster.
And you're right, it's exactly what she did and I wanna be sympathetic to Kayleigh because
I admire her.
That she's working for the campaign on an outpatient basis.
But at the end of the day, it's not her job to tell the truth.
It's her job to provide the sound bite that could be taken out of context for Fox or right
wing radio later.
>> Right, so there's more from this debate.
Let's take a look at the next video.
>> We're talking about the President of the United States of America, who said in the
past that maybe working with law enforcement should be illegal.
And he talked about rats, he talks about him in a context of a mob boss.
Maybe that's why his name is Don.
It's Don Corleone, it's Don Trump and he runs a criminal enterprise.
He went on national TV and said, you shouldn't work with FBI.
I never worked with the FBI.
The FBI director says this is criminal activity.
He says, I think the FBI is wrong.
You know who says that, criminals say that.
I thought you guys believe in the rule of law?
I thought you guys respect the cops?
>> God, you know what I love?
The look on her face as she's actually being challenged by someone who knows what they're
talking about.
Because these CNN debates, look, sometimes they'll be good, but most of the time, you'll
have a Trump supporter honestly steam rolling the entire time.
>> 100%, that's the job.
>> Yes.
>> I mean, you're not gonna win the debate when you're outside the bubble.
So the best you can hope for is get the quick sound bite that they can use back at home.
And Cenk, I'm really disappointed that you have not even addressed Vince Foster.
What is wrong with you?
Why are you deflecting?
>> So if you noticed there to John's point she said, basically because I'd said earlier
that she was doing deflections, she's like, yeah, this one's gonna stick on you.
You're deflecting from the Steele dossier.
Wait, that wasn't the point of the segment at all.
Chris Cuomo set it up at as we're gonna have a debate on what Donald Trump said, what the
President of the United States said yesterday on national television.
>> That's the story.
>> He went from no collusion to pro collusion.
>> Yes.
>> Pro collusion curious.
>> So what does she do?
She's like, you're deflecting from the real story which is the Steele dossier plus Vince
Foster, plus what Jimmy Carter did in 1973.
>> And if you notice to Anna's point about steamrolling, they constantly talk over you.
Like so, if you are not winning the debate, what are you gonna do?
Well first of all you filibuster, you talk for as long as you possibly can.
Then you deflect from Donald Trump's criminality and then if none of that works, you talk over
the person.
So we hit all three and it still didn't work.
>> Yeah.
>> So we are likely to do that again on Cuomo Prime Time.
So if you like me busting these guys up.
Now the steamroller's going in the other direction.
>> I love it.
>> You go check it out at 9 o'clock on CNN.