LONG HE WAS STAYING IN THEIR
HOME.
>>> DEMOCRATS MAKING A LOT OF
NOISE IN THE HOUSE PROMOTING
SOME FAR LEFT IDEAS.
ALEXANDRIA CORTEZ PUSHING A NEW
DEAL THAT CALLS FOR MEETING 100%
OF NATIONAL POWER TO RESOURCES
AND RETROFITTING EVERY
RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL
BUILDING FOR STATE OF THE ART
ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
ALONG WITH PLANS TO PUT MILLIONS
OF WORKERS ON THE TAXPAYER
PAYROLL.
GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.
I WANT TO TAKE A LISTEN TO THE
60 MINUTES INTERVIEW THAT SHE
DID LAST NIGHT.
>> WHAT MAKES IT UNREALISTIC?
>> HOW TO PAY FOR IT.
>> WE PAY MORE PER CAPITA IN
HEALTH CARE AND EDUCATION FOR
LOWER OUTCOMES THAN ANY OTHER
NATIONS.
SO FOR ME WHAT'S UNREALISTIC IS
WHAT WE'RE LIVING IN RIGHT NOW.
>> Dana: THIS CAUGHT MY EYE.
HE SAYS WHAT EVERYONE THINKS
ABOUT CORTEZ, IT'S UNDENIABLE
THAT SHE CONNECTS WITH A LARGE
AND GROWING SUBSET OF GROWER.
HER ABILITY TO SEEM GENUINE IS
MAKING HER A POTENT VOICE ON THE
LEFT.
ARE REPUBLICAN PRESS PAIRED TO
PUSH BACK?
>> RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT
THIS MEANS.
LOT OF THE IDEAS ARE THINGS THAT
HAVE BEEN OUT THERE A DECADE.
WE HAVE YET TO LAY OUT HOW
THEY'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT AND
HOW THE TIMELINE WILL BE MET.
IS IT GOING TO BE MORE
GOVERNMENT MANDATES?
I THINK IT'S AN OPEN QUESTION.
UNTIL WE SEE THAT, WE CAN'T
CRITIQUE IT.
>> Dana: ZACH, ONE OF THE THINGS
SHE SAID LAST NIGHT, TOO, WAS
SHE GETS ASKED, HOW ARE YOU
GONNA PAY FOR IT, BUT THAT NO
ONE QUESTIONS HOW WE WOULD PAY
FOR SOMEONE LIKE A SPACE FORCE.
IS THAT A GOOD ARGUMENT?
>> WELL, I THINK THERE IS THE
BIGGEST CHALLENGE FOR THIS IS
GOING TO BE WHEN YOU WANT
SOMETHING THIS BROAD, HOW YOU
ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.
THE REALISTIC THOUGHT, HOW
YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOMETHING
THROUGH BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS,
ESPECIALLY A SENATE THAT'S NOT
GOING TO FAVOR THIS AND A
PRESIDENT THAT WOULD NEVER SIGN
THIS.
I THINK IF YOU'RE JUST SORT OF
OUTLINING SOME BROAD CONCEPTS
THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HEARING
MORE ABOUT IN THE 2020 RACE,
THIS IS AN INTRODUCTION TO A LOT
OF THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR
ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
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>> Dana: ARE REPUBLICANS
UNPREPARED TO DEAL WITH THIS NEW
GENERATION?
YOU HAVE BROADER IDEAS ABOUT
CLIMATE CHANGE AND THINGS LIKE
THAT, THAT MAYBE THE REPUBLICANS
NEED TO BRUSH UP ON THEIR POLICY
AND THEIR TALKS POINTS.
>> THEY THINK EVERYBODY AGREES
THAT WE NEED TO HAVE MORE
EFFICIENCY IN ENERGY, MORE
INNOVATION.
THE QUESTION IS WHAT THAT
GOVERNMENT ROLE IS.
THE OTHER THING IS, ALEXANDRIA
CORTEZ DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO
DRAW ATTENTION TO SUBJECTS AND
POLICY MATTERS THAT DRIVE SOME
IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS, BUT SHE
DOESN'T REFLECT WHERE THE MEDIAN
DEMOCRAT IN THE HOUSE IS.
MAJORITY DID NOT RUN THROUGH THE
BRONX.
IT RAN THROUGH PLACES LIKE
SUBURBAN ATLANTA, HOUSTON,
DALLAS.
SHE DOES NOT REPRESENT THE
MEMBERS THAT ARE GONNA MAKE THE
MAJORITY OR BREAK IT IN 2020.
>> Dana: THAT'S A GOOD POINT,
ZACH.
MAYBE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT A
LITTLE BIT.
IN CALIFORNIA, THERE ARE MORE
DEMOCRATS REPRESENTED NOW IN THE
HOUSE FROM CALIFORNIA THAN ALL
OTHER 36 STATES COMBINED.
AND I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE
DEMOCRATS PLAN TO TRY TO BROADEN
THAT A BIT.
>> I THINK LIAM RAISES A FAIR
POINT.
IN ORDER TO WIN THE PRESIDENTIAL
CAMPAIGN, ULTIMATELY YOU'RE
STILL GOING TO WIN THE STATES
MICHIGAN, OHIO, PENNSYLVANIA,
WISCONSIN, MAYBE FLORIDA, NORTH
CAROLINA, THAT IN AND OF
THEMSELVES IT'S UNCLEAR WHETHER
A MESSAGE LIKE THIS IS THE
PRIMARY MESSAGE THEY WOULD BE
INTERESTED IN RATHER THAN A
STANDARD ECONOMIC MESSAGE.
BUT THE IDEAS THEMSELVES THAT
ARE BEING PRESENTED REALLY
AREN'T THAT NEW.
IN 2008 WHEN I WORKED FOR THEN
SENATOR OBAMA RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT, WE TALKED ABOUT A
GREEN NEW DEAL POLICY
CONSTANTLY.
IT WAS A LARGE PART OF HIS
ENERGY INDEPENDENCE PLAN.
SO THESE IDEAS AREN'T NEW.
I THINK PACKAGING IT ALTOGETHER
IN SOMETHING THIS BROAD IS
SIGNIFICANT.
CLIMATE CHANGE IS AN ISSUE
YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT MORE
ON THE 2020 CAMPAIGN, I THINK
SIMILAR TO SOME OF THE HEALTH
CARE ARGUMENTS SHE IS MAKING.
HOW IT TRANSLATES TO A GENERAL
ELECTION AS OPPOSED TO JUST HER
BASE INTEREST IS UNCLEAR.
>> Dana: I AM CURIOUS, LIAM, HOW
REPUBLICANS WILL CONTINUE TO TRY
TO CLAIM THE MANTLE OF FISCAL
RESPONSIBILITY.
NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT ANY SORT
OF INTOLERANT REFORM.
WE KNOW THAT'S WHAT'S EATING UP
MOST OF THE BUDGET.
WE KNOW THERE'S WAYS TO DO THAT.
THE REPUBLICANS AREN'T REALLY
TALKING ABOUT THAT ANYMORE AND
YET THEY'LL SAY THEY SCOFF AT
$32 TRILLION FOR MEDICARE FOR
ALL.
ARE THEY VULNERABLE ON THIS.?
>> IT DOES MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO
PUSH BACK ON THINGS WHERE
THEY'RE TALKING OUT OF BOTH
SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH.
EASIER TO BE A FISCAL HAWK WHEN
YOU'RE NOT IN CHARGE OF THE
PURSE STRING.
IT IS A CHALLENGE FOR
REPUBLICANS TO COME UP WITH THAT
POSITIVE AGENDA THAT DOES
DEMONSTRATE THE FISCAL
RESPONSIBILITY THEY TALK ABOUT.
>> Dana: ZACH, HOW MUCH IS THE
ENERGY ON THE LEFT, PROGRESSIVE
SIDE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
GOING TO CAUSE HEADACHES OR NOT
FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE ON
THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE?
>> WELL, I THINK IT'S SIMILAR TO
WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
EXPERIENCED IN 2010 WITH THE TEA
PARTY INIS YOUR GENERALS.
EVEN JUST THE FREEDOM CAUCUS,
THE EXISTENCE IN THE HOUSE NOW,S
WHICH THAT YOU CLEARLY HAVE THIS
ENERGY.
IT'S AN ENERGY THAT PUT THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY OVER THE TOP IN
A LOT OF THESE TIGHT RACES.
AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
PRESIDENTIAL, HOW YOU ACTUALLY
GET THE NOMINATION VERSUS HOW
YOU WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION,
THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING TO BE
VERY INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THAT
MESSAGE TRANSLATES.
I JUST DON'T SEE THEM AS THE