HAVING TO GO TO THAT SCHOOL."
ACTUALLY, TODD.
>> Todd: SO MANY UNANSWERED
QUESTIONS, JACKIE THANK YOU.
NAVY SEAL JONATHAN EMMA WE ARE
STILL LESS THAN 24 HOURS FROM
THE SHOOTING.
WHAT ARE INVESTIGATORS DOING
LITERALLY AS WE SPEAK RIGHT NOW?
THEY ARE COMING THROUGH THE
EVIDENCE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT THE MOTIVATION WAS
HERE ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO HAS
MENTAL ILLNESS, THE MOTIVATION
MAY BE COMPLETELY FACED IN FALSE
REALITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE
THESE TYPES OF ATTACKS, THE
INVESTIGATION IS REALLY TO PUT
THE PIECES TOGETHER.
IT IS ALSO, OF COURSE, TO FIND
OUT IF THERE IS ANY ASSOCIATION
WITH ANYBODY THAT MAY HAVE
HELPED PLANNED THIS AND WHERE
THE GUNS CAME FROM AND SO ON AND
SO FORTH.
THE DETAILS OF THE INVESTIGATION
BUT UNFORTUNATELY IN AN
INVESTIGATION LIKE THIS, IT IS
PUTTING THE PIECES TOGETHER FOR
THE FAMILIES AND SO THEY CAN
CLOSE THIS CASE.
THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE
ANYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF THIS
AS FAR AS PROSECUTION GOES.
>> Ashley: YEAH, THAT LEAVES
THE QUESTION, WHO WILL BE HELD
RESPONSIBLE AS FAR AS GETTING
JUSTICE FOR THE LIVES LOST?
I UNDERSTAND MANIFESTO WILL BE
KEYED TO PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER
IN THIS PLOT THAT WAS PLANNED BY
THIS PERSON.
BUT YOU KNOW, JONATHAN, I WANT
TO GO TO THESE TEXT MESSAGES.
THE FRIEND OF THE SHOOTER SAID
THAT SHE HAD REACHED OUT THAT
MORNING SAYING THAT SHE WAS
GOING TO DIE TODAY.
THERE IS A COUPLE OF WAYS IT CAN
GO, BUT I WANT TO GO THIS ROUTE.
SHE SAID, YOU WILL PROBABLY HEAR
THIS ON THE NEWS AFTER I DIE.
HOW MUCH DOES A ROLE DOES THE
MEDIA PLAY IN THIS?
OBVIOUSLY, THEY HAVE TO COVER
IT, BUT IT WAS TROUBLESOME TO
SEE THAT SHE SAID, "YOU WILL SEE
THIS ON THE NEWS."
>> RIGHT, SO, HERE IS THE
REALITY BUT THIS IS THAT THESE
PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THESE
TYPES OF OVERT ACTIONS ARE
TYPICALLY EITHER TRYING TO SHOW
THAT THEY ARE DOMINANT, WHICH WE
HAVE SEEN IN THE CASE OF THE
MANY PEOPLE BEFORE.
OR THEY HAVE NO LONGER HAVE THE
WILL TO LIVE AND THEY WANT TO
FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO KILL THEM.
BUT IN SOME OF THESE CASES,
THERE IS MASS SHOOTING GOING ON,
I THINK THERE IS MUCH DEEPER
ISSUES GOING ON HERE.
AND THE HATRED, THEY HAVE A
HATRED AT SOME POINT.
THEY HAVE CONFUSION IN THEIR
MIND.
NOT ONLY DO THEY WANT TO DIE,
BUT THERE IS SOMETHING IN THERE
PUSHING THEM TO KILL OTHERS.
AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THIS
IS -- THIS IS NOT JUST A
TRAGEDY.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE ARE SEEING
REOCCURRING.
I WAS DOING MY RESEARCH TO COME
ON HERE AND IT IS A FACT THAT
THE MAJORITY OF SCHOOL SHOOTERS
AND MASS SHOOTERS THAT WE HAVE
HAD IN THE RECENT HISTORY IN
THIS NATION ARE ALL PEOPLE WHO
HAVE HAD SEXUAL IDENTITY
DYSFUNCTIONS.
AND THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY NO
LONGER WILL DIAGNOSE PEOPLE WITH
THESE THESE FUNCTIONS.
THEY CLASSIFY THESE PEOPLE AS
HAVING MEDICAL CONDITIONS.
AND THIS IS A PROBLEM BECAUSE
PEOPLE ARE GROWING UP PLAYING
VIDEO GAMES, WHICH THIS PERSON A
VIDEO GAME FANATIC.
THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHO THEY
ARE WHAT THEIR GENDER OR
SEXUALITY IS BECAUSE OF THE WAY
THAT SOCIETY HAS CHANGED.
I’M READING THE STORIES THAT ARE
OUT IN THE MEDIA AND I CAN’T
EVEN TELL IF THIS PERSON WAS A
TRANSGENDER OR TRANSGENDER WOMAN
AND IT IS REPORTED AS A WOMAN
BUT WHEN THE POLICE ACTUALLY PUT
OUT THE PRESS NOTIFICATIONS,
THEY WERE SAYING THEY IDENTIFY
THIS PERSON FROM THE CAR AND
CALLING THEM A MALE.
WHEN YOU GO TO LINKED IN, IT IS
SAYING HE/HIM.
SO, THEY WERE OF SUCH CONFUSION
AND PEOPLE NOW THAT WE HAVE
PSYCHOLOGICAL ISSUES THAT ARE
BEYOND SCHIZOPHRENIC AND
SUPPORTING THESE THINGS AND
CAUSING MASS CONFUSION TO THE
POINT THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING OUT
AND KILLING.
UNTIL WE START LOOKING AT THE
REALITY OF WHAT IT IS, WE WILL
CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE TYPES OF
ATTACKS.
>> Todd: THEY WERE SO MANY
QUESTIONS TO YOUR POINT,
JONATHAN, THE EXPERTS NEED TO
PROVIDE US ANSWERS ON HERE THEY
NEED TO GET IN THE TRENCHES WITH
THESE INDIVIDUALS TO GIVE THOSE
INDIVIDUALS ANSWERS TO GIVE THEM
HELP.
YOU HEARD CONGRESSMAN COMMENT
THERE IN JACKIE IBANEZ’S PIECE
PIER THAT IS SO CRUCIAL AT A
TIME RIGHT NOW.
IT IS NOT ABOUT DEMONIZING
CERTAIN SEGMENTS OF OUR SOCIETY.
WE ARE ALL HUMANS.
IT IS ABOUT GETTING HUMANS THAT
HELP THEY NEED.
SPEAKING OF HELP, I WANT TO DIVE
INTO THE TEXT MESSAGE THAT
ASHLEY RAISED TO YOU.
THAT TEAMMATE ALSO ALLEGED THAT
SHE CALLED AUTHORITIES TO LET
THEM KNOW ABOUT THIS POTENTIALLY
DANGEROUS SITUATION THAT THEY
WERE GOING TO KILL THEMSELVES.
THEY ARE ON YOUR SCREEN PLANNING
TO DIE TODAY IS THE EXACT
REFERENCE.
BUT WHEN SHE CALLED THE
AUTHORITIES, SHE FELT SHE WAS
NOT GETTING A FAIR AMOUNT OF
URGENCY FROM THOSE AUTHORITIES.
YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
I DO WANT TO BE EXTREMELY CLEAR
WHEN I DISTINGUISH THE
AUTHORITIES I REFERENCE NOW FROM
THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WENT INSIDE
THE BUILDING AND SAVED COUNTLESS
LIVES BY THEIR QUICK AND HEROIC
ACTIONS.
I’M TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE
THAT THIS BASKETBALL TEAMMATE
FIRST CONTACTED ABOUT A PERILOUS
SITUATION.
>> SO HERE IS THE REALITY, TODD.
I DIDN’T COME UP WITH THIS TERM
BUT IT IS AN EXCELLENT TERM
WHERE WE HAVE -- WE HAVE
INSTITUTIONAL INBREEDING.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT TACTICS,
TECHNIQUES AND PROCEDURES THAT
LAW ENFORCEMENT USES THAT ARE
OUTDATED.
WE HAVE SEEN MULTIPLE TIMES
WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN MASS
SHOOTERS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS
PULLED RESPONDING OFFICERS OUT
OF THE BUILDING, OUT OF THE
SHOOT-OUT WHERE THEY ARE
PRESSING FORWARD IN ORDER TO PUT
A HOSTAGE NEGOTIATOR OR S.W.A.T.
TEAM.
IN THAT TIME MANY, MANY PEOPLE
WERE KILLED.
IT IS THE SAME THING HERE.
LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS TO CHANGE
WHEN THE ATTACKERS CHANGE PEER
THAT IS NOT OCCURRING.
ATTACKERS, THEY ARE CHANGING IN
THEIR TACTICS AND EVOLVING AND
LAW ENFORCEMENT IS NOT EVOLVING.
I WANT TO SAY THIS OTHER THING
THE POWER, WE SEE IDEOLOGICAL
BELIEFS THAT PEOPLE HAVE.
BUT NOW IDEOLOGICAL DEMANDS.
WHEN WE DEMAND YOUNG PEOPLE LOOK
AT THEMSELVES IN CERTAIN WAYS,
WHEN WE DEMAND LAW ENFORCEMENT
REACT IN CERTAIN WAYS, THOSE
THINGS MAY BE BASED IN SOMETHING
THAT IS NOT REALITY.
WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT
TRUTH.
WE NEED TO START ASKING WHAT IS
GOING ON HERE?
WHAT TACTICS DO WE USE NOW IN
THESE CASES?
ALL OF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IF
WE WANT TO SOLVE THESE ISSUES
AND ONE A BETTER RESPONSE TIME
AND SAVE LIVES, WE HAVE TO LOOK
AT THIS WHOLE ISSUE AS A SOCIETY
AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AND MENTAL
HEALTH.
WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT
TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
WE HAVE SEEN AND COVID, DOCTORS
IN THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY ARE
LOOKING AT HEALTH ISSUES BASED
ON POLITICS.
I BELIEVE THAT IS THE PROBLEM WE
HAVE HERE WHETHER MENTAL HEALTH,
SEXUAL IDENTITY OR TACTICS OF
PROCEDURES, THEY ARE LOOKING AT
THESE THINGS FROM A POLITICAL
STANDPOINT, NOT A SOLUTION
STANDPOINT.
THAT IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE
HAVE.
>> Todd: SIX, BEAUTIFUL LIGHTS
ARE GONE.